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Romney Vote Total Passes McCain's
2012 National Popular Vote Tracker ^ | November 21, 2012 | Dave Wasserman

Posted on 11/21/2012 10:10:03 AM PST by Strategerist

Romney: 60,099,431 McCain: 59,948,323

Obama 2012: 64,185,237 Obama 2008: 69,498,516

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As an additional note, of the 10 states that have reported final vote totals, total turnout in 2012 was HIGHER than in 2008.

One would hope this would be the end of the endless stupid articles trying to find a cause for a non-existent decline of millions of votes from McCain to Romney, or a decline in total turnout, but I doubt it; if people want to believe something, they will believe it, even if it is obviously wrong, and people themselves have a remarkable inability to simply admit they were wrong.

I had been doing my own spreadsheet, but Wasserman is doing county-by-county updates for states that do not update their own statewide totals, which I just don't have time to do. I have checked his numbers with various State Secretary of State sites and they're valid.

California still has 1.2 million unprocessed ballots and Wasserman believes that NY and CA have 2 million unprocessed or unreported votes between them, so this total will rise, and of course 39 other states and DC do not have final vote totals yet.

An excellent question is the growth in voting age population from 2008 to 2012; the Census does not have a 2012 voting age population estimate, but it did in 2010; taking the 2008-2010 change and doubling it, the voting age population nationwide went up about 4%; Romney's current total is of course less than McCain factoring in voting age population, but the additional uncounted votes will likely put Romney's total very close to or slightly over McCain's total, even if McCain's total is adjusted.

1 posted on 11/21/2012 10:10:03 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

Romney’s vote count isn’t enough of an increase to account for the growth in population.

And it certainly isn’t enough considering that instead of having an unpopular GOP president and a crashing economy, Romney was running against Obama, who jammed Obamacare down our throats and presided over a continuing, disastrous economy.

Considering that at least some of those millions fewer who voted for Obama this time must have voted for his opponent, yes, regular base turnout was lower this time around.


2 posted on 11/21/2012 10:18:41 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Strategerist

Let me know when he passes Obama.


3 posted on 11/21/2012 10:19:45 AM PST by arichtaxpayer
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To: Strategerist

Thank you for this. Time for everyone to stop piling on Romney as somehow a lousy candidate. Or blaming fraud or that stupid ORCA program.

It is simple demographics - Obama did lose at least a few million white voters. But he gained with the rising Latino and Black populations and held on to his youth and single female vote.

We had hoped the voters in this country would see what we all have been seeing. But there is just not enough of us. Too many people vote based on identity group, Federal Gov handouts, and sheer stupidity.

I don’t blame Romney he was a good candidate and would have made a good prez, far better than the dunce we are stuck with. I don’t even blame Obama he is simply what the majority of the people in this declining country now want.

Sad but true. And denying the truth serves no purpose.


4 posted on 11/21/2012 10:20:45 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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Time for everyone to stop piling on Romney as somehow a lousy candidate. Or blaming fraud or that stupid ORCA program.

Oh, spare us the sanctimony. Romney WAS a lousy candidate. There WAS fraud. And ORCA was a fiasco. One reason Bush won in 2004 is that the GOP had a good GOTV program that year. This was the GOP's election to win and they blew it across the board.

5 posted on 11/21/2012 10:28:09 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: arichtaxpayer
Let me know when he passes Obama.

snort!

6 posted on 11/21/2012 10:28:13 AM PST by joesbucks
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To: Strategerist

You are to be commended for your diligence! In the end, I believe it will probably be that young voter that gave Obama the edge -and, of course the minority groups who exist on entitlements. You know, the ones who think that the world owes them everything and have not experienced struggling and working hard just to see the govt. take the fruits of their labors from them.


7 posted on 11/21/2012 10:28:30 AM PST by CitizenM (Obama - The architect of the decline of the U.S.)
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To: Strategerist

8 posted on 11/21/2012 10:29:30 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: 9YearLurker
Romney’s vote count isn’t enough of an increase to account for the growth in population.  Strategerist touched on this above.  He expects Romney's final totals to match McCain's plus an amount that would compenstate for an increased voter pool due to population expansion.

And it certainly isn’t enough considering that instead of having an unpopular GOP president and a crashing economy, Romney was running against Obama, who jammed Obamacare down our throats and presided over a continuing, disastrous economy.  I don't think anyone has been arguing the opposite of this.

Considering that at least some of those millions fewer who voted for Obama this time must have voted for his opponent, yes, regular base turnout was lower this time around.
  Color me unconvinced that anyone stupid enough to vote for Obama the first time is going to admit to themselves they were wrong, and vote for a Republican the next go-round.  They may stay home because they're unhappy, but not many of the Obama supporters were going to vote for an avowed unapologetic American supporting Capitalist, after voting for the U.S.S.R. like Marxist/Socialist/Communist/Islamic throwback poster child.

9 posted on 11/21/2012 10:29:38 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and 48 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: over3Owithabrain

Romney’s team ran a poor campaign, and Romney only rose to the occasion during the first debate, when he actually thought he was fighting from behind.

He pathetically pitched for Romneycare throughout the campaign, which effectively took Obamacare off the table.

Sure, he was largely gaffe free after his trip to London, but that’s because he ran such a cautious campaign that he never actually said anything compelling enough to break through the MSM’s Obama boostering.


10 posted on 11/21/2012 10:32:08 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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Considering that at least some of those millions fewer who voted for Obama this time must have voted for his opponent, yes, regular base turnout was lower this time around.

Evangelicals voted in record numbers for Romney. He got more of their votes than McCain or Bush(2004). He got more white votes than McCain. The missing votes in 2012 were white Obama voters from 2008.

We should look at who they are, why they left Obama and why they didn't vote GOP.

11 posted on 11/21/2012 10:34:53 AM PST by Ken H
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Romney Vote Total Passes McCain's

I guess that makes him The Biggest Loser.

12 posted on 11/21/2012 10:38:24 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: Strategerist

“Mitt Was Less Horrible”.

Fills me with confidence for the future of the GOP.


13 posted on 11/21/2012 10:39:09 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: dirtboy

Yep, it started with a very weak field.

I do think that had Rove taken the $300 and run the GOTV this year, it could well have been a different outcome.


14 posted on 11/21/2012 10:39:17 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Strategerist

I call B.S. 0bama’s totals are inflated by voter fraud, and as far as Romney’s, you can’t count discarded votes and nullified electronic voting machine votes transferred to 0bama, right?


15 posted on 11/21/2012 10:39:45 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Ken H
>> Evangelicals voted in record numbers for Romney. He got more of their votes than McCain or Bush(2004). <<

So much for the MSM propaganda telling us over and over again that "Evangelicals will NEVER vote for a Mormon"

16 posted on 11/21/2012 10:42:23 AM PST by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Strategerist

I say Romney would have won had he picked Rubio as Veep instead of Ryan.


17 posted on 11/21/2012 10:42:35 AM PST by Rennes Templar (Be positive: America is greater than Obama.)
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To: Strategerist

Let us know when Romney vote totals exceed those of Obama in Ohio, Florida, Virginia and New Hampshire.


18 posted on 11/21/2012 10:43:09 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Strategerist

It is a silly effort, Romney’s was a massive, incredible, humiliating loss, against Jimmy Carter’s second term.

The republicans didn’t stand a chance in 2008, but were shoo- ins for 2012.

Romney did worse than McCain/Palin.


19 posted on 11/21/2012 10:44:36 AM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: Ken H

I think everyone on this board knows former Obama voters who went for Romney this time. Barry’s former voters, who demographically were overwhelmingly white, didn’t all just stay home.


20 posted on 11/21/2012 10:44:36 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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