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Only 40% of Democrats say Israel is justified to attack Gaza
Your Jewish News ^ | November 21, 2012 | Moses Gold

Posted on 11/21/2012 8:09:12 PM PST by expat1000

Only 40 percent of U.S. Democrats believe in the right of self defense, at least when it comes to the Jewish state of Israel, according to a new poll released this week.

A new CNN poll shows that only "four in ten Democrats believe that Israel's actions in Gaza are justified."

Although 57 percent of U.S. citizens agree that Israel's military response in Gaza against Hamas rocket attacks is justified, only 40 percent of Democrats polled side with Israel.

Most Republicans supported Israel with a whopping 74 percent, while 59 percent of independents also supported Israel.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Israel; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 11/21/2012 8:09:14 PM PST by expat1000
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To: SJackson

ping


2 posted on 11/21/2012 8:09:57 PM PST by expat1000
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To: expat1000

I believe this is called a paradox.


3 posted on 11/21/2012 8:10:43 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: expat1000

LIBERALS ARE SO DISGUSTING THEY WILL SELL DOWN THE RIVER PLACES THAT PRACTICE WOMENS SUFFERAGE AND SEXUAL EQUALITY FOR THE SAKE OF SAVAGES WHO WOULD WANT TO KILL THEM.....


4 posted on 11/21/2012 8:12:16 PM PST by GraceG
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To: expat1000

The other 60 percent think the United States should be attacked.


5 posted on 11/21/2012 8:12:28 PM PST by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: expat1000

the same 40 percent that change their minds more often than they change their underwear


6 posted on 11/21/2012 8:14:30 PM PST by molson209
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To: expat1000

100% of the smoothsailing household believes Israel is juatrified to attack Democrats.


7 posted on 11/21/2012 8:16:59 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: expat1000
Polls lie and liars poll.
8 posted on 11/21/2012 8:17:41 PM PST by deweyfrank
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To: expat1000

I’ll bet 60% couldn’t find Israel on a Map if you waited all day!


9 posted on 11/21/2012 8:18:12 PM PST by EnglishOnly (Fight all out to win OR get out now.)
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To: expat1000
In May of this year, the GOP-controlled House voted to provide an additional $680 million in funding for Israel's Iron Dome program. The bill passed despite over 100 Democrats voting against it including Debbie Wasserman-Shultz. Today, the bill sits in the Democrat-controlled Senate still awaiting a vote.

Democrats are no friends of Israel.

10 posted on 11/21/2012 8:19:06 PM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: smoothsailing

CORRECTION: 100% of the smoothsailing household believes Israel is justified to attack Democrats.

(and anyone else that messes with them)


11 posted on 11/21/2012 8:20:08 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: expat1000

This is not going to persuade Jews. Republicans have GOT to stop trying to win the Jewish vote. It’s not going to happen. Obama is more hostile to Israel than any modern US president and US Jews still voted for him overwhelmingly - twice. And they will vote overwhelmingly for the next Democrat presidential candidate. Outside of Israel, the great majority of Jews vote for secular progressive party’s. They’ve been doing this for all of modern history. There is a reason so many in Europe associated Jews with communism.


12 posted on 11/21/2012 8:20:41 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: expat1000

Liberals are so disgusting that they have less core values than Willard Mitt Romney, and that is saying something, and it sure isn’t good. Frankly, it’s sad when one side of the political spectrum doesn’t get the fact that they sympathize with an apartheid regime that would gladly trample them under their feet. It never ceases to amaze me how ignorant or blatantly hypocritical the left is for sympathizing with an ideology that treats women badly, treats Jews and Christians pretty much like farm animals, and treats homosexuals so badly it makes one wonder why there isn’t mass outrage at the Palestinians for the homosexuals killed by angry mobs or executions, much less the Iranian president who claims there are “no homosexuals in Iran”, then when Chris Stevens, who based on plenty of surrounding details, was likely a discrete homosexual, I see more condolence over his death from the religious right than I do from the left, who seems to care little more than trying to argue some alternate history than Obama blaming the obscure video, which he Clinton and Susan Rice did do.

Either way, my only warning to the left is, “I warned you, and when they come for you, frankly, you shouldn’t have wasted your time selling out your fellow Americans and Democracy campaigners in Israel to these Savages, because like mad dogs, they will tear you up to, might as well take a stand with your fellow Americans in supporting the tolerance and freedom that constitutes Israel in contrast to the awful self-destructive culture that constitutes a lot of the Middle East.


13 posted on 11/21/2012 8:27:48 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: expat1000

If true, these numbers are disgusting.

Remember all of those meth moms and welfare queens that gave birth to kids they didn’t bother to raise? Well, they grew into big people and they vote.


14 posted on 11/21/2012 8:31:40 PM PST by Gator113 (**WHO in the hell gave the damn order to NOT rescue our men in Benghazi?**)
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To: GraceG

I hate liberals so much I actually pray for them to drop dead.


15 posted on 11/21/2012 8:37:00 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: GraceG

16 posted on 11/21/2012 8:38:14 PM PST by Loud Mime (Conservatives refused to unite; now we pay the price!)
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To: expat1000

40% of Democrats probably never heard of Isreal or Gaza...and not interested if they can’t get one for free!


17 posted on 11/21/2012 8:41:09 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Longbow1969

“This is not going to persuade Jews. Republicans have GOT to stop trying to win the Jewish vote. It’s not going to happen.”

Conservatives such as myself have argued for Israel for years. Frankly, I find the whole thing disappointing, given that I am not even Jewish, I have had a whole lot better concern by all I have written and said regarding Israel. But the sad story is that there will be some professed “Christians” and some professed “Jews” who will be open enemies to God in the last days.

Another way of saying this is that there are Ruth Grubers and Oscar Schindlers (a Jew and a non-Jew who both worked to save people from the Holocaust) But there will also be those, both Christian and Jew, who try to throw examples of Democracy in a savage world (Israel) under the bus for the sake of appeasing the radical Islam, effectively giving a win to the ideologies of Osama bin Laden, Yasir Arafat, et al.


18 posted on 11/21/2012 8:43:57 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: expat1000

i THINK the Israelis need to drive the Jordanian Arabs from the West Bank into their ancestral homaland of Jordan, while the Egyptian Arabs need to be driven from Gaza to their ancestral homeland of Egypt.


19 posted on 11/21/2012 8:48:12 PM PST by MuttTheHoople (Pray for Joe Biden- Proverbs 29:9)
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To: expat1000

i THINK the Israelis need to drive the Jordanian Arabs from the West Bank into their ancestral homaland of Jordan, while the Egyptian Arabs need to be driven from Gaza to their ancestral homeland of Egypt.


20 posted on 11/21/2012 8:48:51 PM PST by MuttTheHoople (Pray for Joe Biden- Proverbs 29:9)
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters

I’m a little surprised it’s not even lower than 40%


21 posted on 11/21/2012 8:51:07 PM PST by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: MuttTheHoople

Right on, but first, sink those 3 Iranian ships. The rest, the sooner the better.


22 posted on 11/21/2012 9:03:27 PM PST by Gertie
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To: expat1000

“Only” 40%? Shoot, this is good news, I’da thought it was 10%.


23 posted on 11/21/2012 9:33:52 PM PST by A_perfect_lady (Great nations are born stoic and die epicurean. -Will Durant)
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To: expat1000

40% of democrats think that Hamas is not a terrorist organization, but rather they are freedom fighters.
In fact Hamas are THUGS.

That makes 40% of democrats liberal fascist thugs.

In fact 40% of democrats are not democrats at all. They are
liberal fascists.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html

And before this is over many Americans will be shooting at them in order to enforce the Constitution.


24 posted on 11/21/2012 9:49:03 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: EnglishOnly
I’ll bet 60% couldn't’t find Israel on a Map if you waited all day!<<<

bingo...But you know what is really scary???....They think Israel is a huge country...

25 posted on 11/21/2012 9:49:30 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: Hoodat
"Democrats are no friends of Israel. "

But the Jews in the U.S. still keep voting for them!! Never could understand that.

26 posted on 11/21/2012 10:26:40 PM PST by LADY J (You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have. - Author Unknown)
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To: LADY J
Would you call them “JINO’s”, Jews In name Only?
They are not traditional Jews but a liberal amalgam
27 posted on 11/22/2012 1:29:53 AM PST by ChiMark (America no more)
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To: LADY J
Would you call them “JINO’s”, Jews In name Only?
They are not traditional Jews but a liberal amalgam
28 posted on 11/22/2012 1:30:08 AM PST by ChiMark (America no more)
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To: expat1000

Why didn’t they ask the people in the poll if they thought Hitler did the right thing?

We really need to know.


29 posted on 11/22/2012 2:50:48 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: expat1000

The other thing they should have asked FIRST, of course, is “Do you think Hamas was justified launching rockets into Israel?”


30 posted on 11/22/2012 2:53:55 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: expat1000

The Israeli contributions to science and technology are far beyond their numbers. The Palestinian contributions in those areas are underwhelming to say the least. If the Palestinians disappeared off the face of the earth tomorrow, like many violent, sociopathic mideast societies, nobody would miss them.


31 posted on 11/22/2012 4:21:31 AM PST by driftless2
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
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I'm more concerned about the 57% of all Americans number than the 40% of Dems.

32 posted on 11/22/2012 7:25:01 AM PST by SJackson (none of this suggests there are hostile feelings for the US in Egypt, Victoria Nuland, State Dept)
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I'm more concerned about the 57% of all Americans number than the 40% of Dems.

33 posted on 11/22/2012 7:25:14 AM PST by SJackson (none of this suggests there are hostile feelings for the US in Egypt, Victoria Nuland, State Dept)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
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If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.

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I'm more concerned about the 57% of all Americans number than the 40% of Dems.

34 posted on 11/22/2012 7:26:18 AM PST by SJackson (none of this suggests there are hostile feelings for the US in Egypt, Victoria Nuland, State Dept)
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To: expat1000; SJackson; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; tedbel; Shellybenoit; goldstategop; Impy; ...
Only 40 percent of U.S. Democrats believe in the right of self defense, at least when it comes to the Jewish state of Israel, according to a new poll released this week.

Not surprising. This is far from the first poll to reveal a wide gap between the two major parties on support for Israel in general.

Recall the scene at the 'Rat convention just a couple of months ago when the "Jerusalem is the capital of Israel" language in the platform had be arbitrarily approved by a questionable voice vote over a vociferous dissent from the gallery.

It's clear that lies, fraud, degradation of American values, and immorality in multiple dimensions have found an accommodating home in today's Democratic Party.

And that same poisonous mentality is often reflected in the "even-handed" MSM coverage of the current Israel-Hamas conflict, not to mention the Middle East policy of the current Administration.

No wonder why 85% of Americans abroad in Israel voted for Romney in the past election.

35 posted on 11/22/2012 8:06:57 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: expat1000

http://conservativebyte.com/2012/11/hamas-violates-cease-fire-70-of-israelis-oppose-it/

Hamas Violates Cease-Fire; 70% of Israelis Oppose It


36 posted on 11/22/2012 8:14:25 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: Candor7

Just drop the liberal bit. They’re fascists, tried and true.


37 posted on 11/22/2012 8:49:43 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Morpheus2009
Supporting Israel to the hilt is fine if that is what you believe, just don't expect to win over the Jewish vote that way. Particularly outside of Israel, significant majorities of Jews will always vote secular progressive and support socialist party's. We are not just talking about slim majorities here, it is huge majorities of Jews that vote this way in most places. As I said previously, it was not difficult for the Germans to link Jews and Communism. That stereotype already existed in European's minds because of all the Jews in socialist/communist party's, that had surrounded Lenin and that were in radical left European trade unions.

Many believe that Jews act this way because of past persecution. They are afraid of the prevailing majority religion in virtually all countries and vote for strong central governments that they believe can protect them. In this country Jews are a big part of far left organizations like the ACLU, People for the American Way, etc.

38 posted on 11/22/2012 9:18:16 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: SJackson

The 60% of Dems have ghostly friends who rise from their graves on election nights.


39 posted on 11/22/2012 12:13:13 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Longbow1969
The story of European Jews and communism is complicated. Communism has been from its start an antisemitic death cult. You are wrong about Jews in other countries. In Canada, France, Sweden, and the UK Jews vote for "conservative" parties or are swing votes.

Nothing we do on FR makes a difference to most Jews. They don't read FreeRepublic. 1/3 to 40% of American of Jews lost on the left. Another 1/3 are moderates, but are are urbanites subject to the same malignant cultural influences destroying America. They live in the left world. They don't like the taxes and parts of the culture but ignorance or doublethink prevents them from putting two and two together.

Over time, the right-leaning Jewish vote will increase perhaps a few percent each cycle. Orthodox Jews are increasing in number. However, their large families also mean that many are dependent on welfare to some degree. Russian and Middle Eastern Jews are clustered in NY and CA, so their votes make little difference in presidential election.

Republicans don't generally support Israel because of the Jewish vote. They do so because it is the right thing to do and because most Americans support Israel.

40 posted on 11/22/2012 1:14:32 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Longbow1969

I agree, it’s a rediculous notion that the Jewish vote can be won. However, it’s rediculous how much the state of Israel goes in the way of tolerance while so much of the Middle East hates them, and the Western powers don’t seem to care about how liberal and tolerant they are. It’s hypocritical and disgusting.


41 posted on 11/22/2012 2:20:22 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: rmlew

Communism has been from its start an antisemitic death cult.

Especially for religious Jews, only problem is, too many people don’t seem to know about the Doctors’ Plots from the Soviet Union, in which numerous doctors, most of whom were Jewish, were executed for violating dictated medical standards, including administering synthetic insulin as treatment for diabetes, which is the accepted modern standard, and an alleged attempt to poison Stalin and other Communist Party members. A lot of suspicion is there that there was anti-semitic influences involved, as plenty of the doctors’ actions were medically “right” for the patients, and the sources leading to the conviction of an attempted assasination were sketchy witness testimonies at best. One thing for sure is that a totalitarian regime runs on paranoia so bad, your religion, ethnicity could be the next target for genocide when something goes wrong.


42 posted on 11/22/2012 2:28:51 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: onedoug

Just drop the liberal bit. They’re fascists, tried and true.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I will do so gladly.

I’d love to keel haul each and every one of those fascist scabs on the WHite House staff who are
acting against the Constitution.

BTW, enforcing and defending the constitution is the right of every citizen. We do not have to let the courts do it.


43 posted on 11/22/2012 2:59:48 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:)
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To: rmlew
The story of European Jews and communism is complicated. Communism has been from its start an antisemitic death cult.

It's really not that complicated. Usually people say that when they don't want to admit the all too common association between European Jewry and Communism. Again, it wasn't an accident that it was so easy for the Nazi's to persuade much of the public that the Jews were Bolsheviks. Even Winston Churchill spoke about the particular connection between International Jewry and Marxism. For whatever reason a disturbing percentage of Jews gravitate to socialist politics. The reasons are obviously varied, but I'd argue it is because their history of persecution has driven them, misguidedly, to support strong central government and all efforts to weaken the power of the dominant religion in any society that live in. Perhaps this habit of theirs will fade with time, but I am not terribly confident about that.

44 posted on 11/22/2012 8:08:11 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: expat1000

I don’t really give a damn what Democrats think. they are my enemy. I do not have any friends that are Democrats. And I am not interested in becoming friends with them, nor will I waste my time trying to convert them to Conservatism.


45 posted on 11/22/2012 8:14:03 PM PST by sport
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To: justiceseeker93

Any really old Nazis still alive?

They would fit right in with the democrats.


46 posted on 11/22/2012 9:27:07 PM PST by Impy (Boehner for President - 2013)
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To: Longbow1969
Quite a few Jews were and are Socialists. Communism is another matter. It is an atheist religion, one founded by a man who wanted to destroy Judaism and Jewishnes.
In its perfected practice, Christian egoism of heavenly bliss is necessarily transformed into the corporal egoism of the Jew, heavenly need is turned into world need, subjectivism into self-interest. We explain the tenacity of the Jew not by his religion, but, on the contrary, by the human basis of his religion – practical need, egoism.

Since in civil society the real nature of the Jew has been universally realized and secularized, civil society could not convince the Jew of the unreality of his religious nature, which is indeed only the ideal aspect of practical need. Consequently, not only in the Pentateuch and the Talmud, but in present-day society we find the nature of the modern Jew, and not as an abstract nature but as one that is in the highest degree empirical, not merely as a narrowness of the Jew, but as the Jewish narrowness of society.

Once society has succeeded in abolishing the empirical essence of Judaism – huckstering and its preconditions – the Jew will have become impossible, because his consciousness no longer has an object, because the subjective basis of Judaism, practical need, has been humanized, and because the conflict between man’s individual-sensuous existence and his species-existence has been abolished.

The social emancipation of the Jew is the emancipation of society from Judaism.
Karl Marx, On the Jewish Question
Jews, or rather former Jews, certainly were drawn to it. However, few Jews supported the Bolsheviks. Plenty of Latvians did, but no one speaks of the Latvian Bolshevism.

the reasons are obviously varied, but I'd argue it is because their history of persecution has driven them, misguidedly, to support strong central government and all efforts to weaken the power of the dominant religion in any society that live in. Perhaps this habit of theirs will fade with time, but I am not terribly confident about that.
That is one thing that pushes them to liberalism and socialism. But communism is another matter.

47 posted on 11/22/2012 11:21:15 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Morpheus2009

The Doctor’s Plot was a pretext for a death march of Jews to Birobaizhan. Fortunately, Stalin died first. Most people also don’t know of the antisemitism of the post-war Communist Polish government.


48 posted on 11/22/2012 11:26:14 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: expat1000

49 posted on 11/22/2012 11:46:21 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: expat1000

One of the main reasons that I don’t regularly post on the Israel threads anymore is because I am afraid that I will say something that can’t be taken back. My thoughts usually start with F* the Democrats and the “Palestinians” and proceed from there.


50 posted on 11/24/2012 2:01:46 PM PST by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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