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Letting Us Down: GOP Losing Susan Rice Debate
Breitbart ^ | 21 Nov 2012 | John Nolte

Posted on 11/21/2012 8:10:59 PM PST by chessplayer

For some reason, even after "binders," "birth control," and Big Bird actually did help Obama win a second term, the Republican Party is apparently still under the illusion that, just because the Left and the media launch a Narrative that's objectively false and nonsensical, we don't have to push back against it. But if those exit polls taught us anything, it's that we do. And a lack of pushback is why we're currently losing the Susan Rice debate.

While Republicans are off licking their wounds or just taking a break after an exhausting campaign, the Left and the media are not. And as a result, the GOP is currently getting its butt kicked all over the place.

Everywhere now, online, print media, and on cable nets like CNN and MSNBC, the false Narrative is flourishing that Republicans oppose Rice because she's black and a woman. The media doesn't care one whit that Republicans wholeheartedly backed Condi Rice (who is black and a woman) for Secretary of State, because this is about politics, not truth.

At his post-election news conference last week, Barack Obama vigorously defended Susan Rice, and now the media is following suit, because the media sees its job as to never-ever-ever allow this president to fail. The media also learned that false accusations of racism and sexism against Republicans helped win Obama a second term, so why not use that winning tactic to help Obama win everything?

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The GOP let the libs turn this into skin color and nothing but skin color. They might as well just rubber stamp her appointment and not so much as ask her even one question at the hearings.
1 posted on 11/21/2012 8:11:02 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Funny how their standards don’t apply to Conservative people of color.


2 posted on 11/21/2012 8:14:01 PM PST by Dogbert41 (What now?)
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To: chessplayer

By all means, how about we let Susan Rice get to be SOS, then we write her motherloads of letters, which we publish online, then record whatever answers she has, then cross-compare it with saved transcripts of what she said to the U.N., then make books about it. If she is Secretary of State, by all means, let’s write our own history about her, and scrutinize her as much as we can while in office. Let the nation live with the fact that Obama doesn’t care about how honest his cabinet members are.


3 posted on 11/21/2012 8:14:34 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: chessplayer

thats because they always run from the racism charge..everytime a white person questions a brown person is not racism and people should say so. we are all in trouble if we cant ask question and someone can get away with murder because of their skin’....be open about it. we had some bad racist things happen in this country but you and i didnt do it. what happenend when O got elected is all the racist blacks said we own whitey ...thats racist too.


4 posted on 11/21/2012 8:16:03 PM PST by dalebert
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To: chessplayer

I’d ask her, “Are liberal black females capable of lying?” then take it from there.


5 posted on 11/21/2012 8:16:47 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: chessplayer

Catherine Herridge was angry enough to spit as she talked about Clapper’s (something tells me he’s another guy with an affair he’s afraid will be exposed)reversals tonight. I’d love to see her get the chance to interview Rice.


6 posted on 11/21/2012 8:20:05 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: chessplayer

Thge democrats and liberals have nonsensical crap positions that most people would disagree with, but they present them so convincingly thru their echo-chamber media that even crap arguments work.

Like this article says, Republicans aren’t just losing the game, they aren’t even on the field. We gonna sit back and wait for the phone to ring asking for our side of the story? Will we hhine about the “lamestream media” on our websites and talk shows or get busy using the internet and stealing the grassroots methods that have worked twice now for Obama?

In other words, are we going to get in the game or continue to get our butts kicked? Our positions are the ones that make sense, have been proven to work, and that most people would agree with. We don’t have to change our position on anything, just get the message out.

(And it wouldn’t hurt if some of our guys quit stepping on landmines)


7 posted on 11/21/2012 8:22:38 PM PST by bigbob
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To: chessplayer

Even if the race card hadn’t been played, nothing short of a major issue in Susan Rice’s past was going to stop her from being SOS. The fact that this gets thrown about in the press each day just makes the GOP look worse. Find dirt on her or let it go.


8 posted on 11/21/2012 8:27:33 PM PST by CatOwner
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>> GOP Losing Susan Rice Debate

Premise problem: there is no debate; the GOP is a political prisoner performing for its captors.


9 posted on 11/21/2012 8:35:29 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: chessplayer
The civil rights movement was originally intended to grant minorities equal rights; not satisfied with the progress of that indeavor, the protected classes want nothing less than preferential treatment.
10 posted on 11/21/2012 8:41:02 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: bigbob

Until Benghazi I had no clue who Susan Rice was/is.

They say she had no decision-making power in the event, but they sent her out to mouth the words.

They think if they spin this thing around enough everyone will lose track and give up.

Bullsh_t.

Obama should have known (did know), did little or nothing to loose regional assets, allowed a cover-up, and then sent minions to echo his falsehoods through the slurping media.

Fry these losers, one and all. They are no Patriots!


11 posted on 11/21/2012 8:46:45 PM PST by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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To: chessplayer

I don’t believe one bit of this. We haven’t even had the confirmation hearings yet. This is just foreplay.

If you stop trying to put this in terms of win or lose, then you never lose. Keep telegraphing your strategy long before the hearings and you keep giving them ample opportunity to obfuscate.

Play things close to the vest for the next year or so. Everything said right now is said in the shadow of Obama’s victory and thus tainted as sore loser.

Ambush her in the hearings with surprise accusations. Don’t telegraph these things to early.


12 posted on 11/21/2012 8:49:14 PM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: chessplayer

It’s okay to out and out lie to the American people when you are a Democrat I guess.

It’s not okay to tell the hard truth when you are a Republican though.


13 posted on 11/21/2012 8:52:56 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: chessplayer; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; ...
RE :”Everywhere now, online, print media, and on cable nets like CNN and MSNBC, the false Narrative is flourishing that Republicans oppose Rice because she's black and a woman. The media doesn't care one whit that Republicans wholeheartedly backed Condi Rice (who is black and a woman) for Secretary of State, because this is about politics, not truth.
At his post-election news conference last week, Barack Obama vigorously defended Susan Rice, and now the media is following suit, because the media sees its job as to never-ever-ever allow this president to fail. The media also learned that false accusations of racism and sexism against Republicans helped win Obama a second term, so why not use that winning tactic to help Obama win everything?”

I get the feeling that O will win on this too.
What battles have the GOP won since taking the House January 2011??

Watch them cave in the Senate after being called racists.

The problem is that this (Rice issue) is about O using his appointees (her) to lie to the voters to win the election. But Republicans will not say that letting Dems make it all about race and Rice the poor (and attractive) black woman victim of the old white racists..

14 posted on 11/21/2012 8:54:29 PM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: chessplayer

Of course the GOP is losing the debate.

It wants to.

It never actually wins any debate.


15 posted on 11/21/2012 8:54:51 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: sickoflibs

The GOP are the Washington Generals of politics.


16 posted on 11/21/2012 8:55:21 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: gusopol3

While Republicans are off licking their wounds or just taking a break after an exhausting campaign, THE LEFT AND THE MEDIA ARE NOT.


Thats why they win so many times. They don’t take a day off,,,not an hour off,,,not a minute off. They are relentless and full speed ahead 24/7, 365 days a year. The election is over and they’re still tearing away at Romney. They’re still tearing away at Palin AND her family, and it’s been 4 years since she ran for VP. For them it’s scorched earth. They aren’t satisfied with just winning. They get even angrier AFTER they win. They have to utterly and personally destroy whoever runs against them.


17 posted on 11/21/2012 8:56:28 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

That’s the problem I have with plenty of the GOP, much less people who profess to support the GOP. As a GOP politician it’s a lose-lose situation because pretty much you get expected to run your own campaign and win, then you get thrown under the bus for losing, plus you get stalked by the left to try and destroy you for even bothering to run for office on the other ticket. Personally, I don’t have a regret for voting, and not feeling the same kind of hatred that the left feels for people who disagree with them. I have no fear regarding this matter, because I don’t hold grudges, I pray that plenty of the hyper-political types because frankly, among God’s biggest offenses is failing to let go of hatred and being unforgiving, which I wouldn’t wish such a fate on anyone, I would encourage anyone to sober off of it.


18 posted on 11/21/2012 9:07:38 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: dfwgator

O is smart to use Rice instead of Hillary because she is black and she is a very attractive woman, unlike ugly Hill.

So O gets on TV and acts like he is standing up for her when he is not doing anything.


19 posted on 11/21/2012 9:08:46 PM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: chessplayer
And I'd point out that 0bama SPECIFICALLY CHOSE HER to lie for the same reason he himself was groomed to be president; She's protected by the two-fer 'class cards' (race & gender) which shields her from punishment by the white establishment GOP. The white establishment GOP risks 'black backlash' merely for criticizing her let alone punishing her. Let's face it, whoever groomed 0bama for his 'kill mission' on America did so because his 'class card' permits him to commit his crimes with total impunity. If 0bama were white, he'd been impeached within the first year of his first term.

Any liberal who is also female and/or black and/or Hispanic and/or gay can do anything they damn well please so long as the COWARDLY white establishment GOP sacrifices the rule of law (and our Republic) out of fear of being attacked by the protected classes and the relentless media working on their behalf.

20 posted on 11/21/2012 9:11:45 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: One Name

Until Benghazi I had no clue who Susan Rice was/is.


Probably 99% of people (including libs) who pay close attention to politics, didn’t have a clue that she’s black. Not until the professional skin color peddlers started screeching about it.


21 posted on 11/21/2012 9:12:40 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

The questions should be:

Who gave the order to our military to “stand down” and to NOT execute plans to rescue our Ambassador and our men, in Benghazi on 9-11-12?


22 posted on 11/21/2012 9:15:32 PM PST by John Galt's cousin (Constitutional Conservatism NOW! * * * * * * * * * * Repeal the 17th Amendment!)
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To: chessplayer

“a lack of pushback is why we’re currently losing the Susan Rice debate.”

The repubes don’t “push back” on a DAMNED thing unless it’s THEIR ox being gored.

Change your affiliation to “INDEPENDENT”. The repubes just wanna have cocktail parties and receive their golden parachutes when their term is up.

“The Republican Party made an agreement 30 years ago with the Democrat Party NOT to ensure voting integrity and NOT to pursue suspected vote fraud.”

http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2012/11/why-gop-wont-challenge-vote-fraud.html

They’re no longer the party of thinking people. They’re whores.


23 posted on 11/21/2012 9:21:02 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: chessplayer
How are you losing a debate when the alternative is Lurch? It's lose-lose, so in fact there's nothing to lose. I only want Lurch -- and regret that this aligns me with McCrisis and King -- because apparently Bobo does not.
24 posted on 11/21/2012 9:22:02 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Own It.)
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To: sickoflibs
If the GOP wants the next four years to be TEN TIMES WORSE than the last four years, they better NOT cave in on this one. The LEAST we can do for the FOUR DEAD AMERICANS in Benghazi is ensure JUSTICE BE DONE and the PATHOLOGICAL COVER-UPS, DECEPTION AND LIES OF THE 0BAMA REGIME BE STOPPED.
25 posted on 11/21/2012 9:23:29 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: chessplayer

The article assumes the GOP cares. They are committing national malpractice. I doubt the GOP cares or even understands these issues.

I’ve been around idiot republicans. They are very dumbly proud to not be like those awful democrats. As a result, America is going to reap a whirlwind.


26 posted on 11/21/2012 9:23:29 PM PST by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way!)
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To: chessplayer

She may very well be a polished, deserving diplomat.

BUT, the fact that she went out there as a mouthpiece, like someone in the know and in charge; and now they say she had nothing to do with decisions/chain of command-—

It smells bad, it’s a cover-up and she is a willing participant.

American diplomacy should deal from strength, not from deceit.


27 posted on 11/21/2012 9:23:44 PM PST by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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To: chessplayer
>> And a lack of pushback is why we're currently losing the Susan Rice debate... the false Narrative is flourishing that Republicans oppose Rice because she's black and a woman. The media doesn't care one whit that Republicans wholeheartedly backed Condi Rice (who is black and a woman) for Secretary of State <<

Actually, I think the fact Republicans wholeheartedly backed Condi Rice is one of the reasons we're losing the Susan Rice debate. Condi Rice was CLEARLY in over his head as SOS and her policies were decidedly pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel, but a bunch of "conservatives" turned a blind eye to that because she was a black woman with an "R" next to her name.

28 posted on 11/21/2012 9:24:58 PM PST by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: chessplayer

0bama could reach into his binders of women and pull out Big Bird to be Secretary of State and the media wouldn’t care. They get their narratives from the regime and go with that 24/7. The GOP is pretty much defenseless at this point; it doesn’t matter what they say. It won’t be reported, it will be distorted. The party line has been set, comrade.


29 posted on 11/21/2012 9:34:25 PM PST by henkster ("The people who count the votes decide everything." -Joseph Stalin)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; ...
RE:”If the GOP wants the next four years to be TEN TIMES WORSE than the last four years, they better NOT cave in on this one. The LEAST we can do for the FOUR DEAD AMERICANS in Benghazi is ensure JUSTICE BE DONE and the PATHOLOGICAL COVER-UPS, DECEPTION AND LIES OF THE 0BAMA REGIME BE STOPPED.”

If a battle is an easy win with little thought, planning or leadership then the Rs will all line up including even the weakest RINOs in the most difficult states against O and hold firm.
But since they don't seem to have a clue on how to beat Dems they end up caving eventually.

Here is a great example on how Romney spend big $$$ money and volunteers time on another total F-UP.
Gripes of a GOP Grunt(or how I saw firsthand how the Romney campaign was a disaster)

Rice had no responsibility for those deaths. But she did promote on TV a big lie about it to get O re-elected.

30 posted on 11/21/2012 9:39:42 PM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: chessplayer

It’s starting to look like the GOP couldn’t pour piss from a boot with the directions written on the heel.


31 posted on 11/21/2012 9:44:42 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: gusopol3

Clapper may be the guy “taking one for the Team”. To protect his country a good Roman General would fall on his sword to protect the Empire.


32 posted on 11/21/2012 10:15:07 PM PST by pankot
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To: chessplayer

Until whites stand up as whites we haven’t got a prayer. The left has been using race for decades to get what they want. They win because ultimately the right is spineless about it. They either disavow it, back away from it or try to ignore it. The Left will keep cramming it up our ass until we either push back or they push us off the cliff. It is starting to look like we are approaching the cliff.


33 posted on 11/21/2012 10:22:14 PM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: BillyBoy
Actually, I think the fact Republicans wholeheartedly backed Condi Rice is one of the reasons we're losing the Susan Rice debate. Condi Rice was CLEARLY in over his head as SOS and her policies were decidedly pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel, but a bunch of "conservatives" turned a blind eye to that because she was a black woman with an "R" next to her name.

I think you have forgotten that Condi Rice was extremely qualified for the position of Secretary of State when she was nominated. She was considered an expert on the Soviet Union and had served on the National Security team during President George H. W. Bush's administration. Although I do not remember her being anti-Israel at all, you must admit that 9-11 changed the entire focus of GWB's foreign policy from Europe to the Middle East. Susan Rice has been the ambassador to the UN, but Obama's lack of judgment in putting her out there to defend the indefensible with lies should automatically disqualify her. That it doesn't do so shows what an arogant SOB (excuse my French) Obama is and how little he deserved to be elected POTUS in the first place, much less re-elected to a second term.

34 posted on 11/21/2012 10:26:40 PM PST by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death,....therefore, choose life..")
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To: pankot

We already found out who the Roamin’ General was, and what sword do you mean?


35 posted on 11/21/2012 11:00:11 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: chessplayer

Democrats take life seriously and advance their causes and interests.

Republicans don’t seem to really care about anything, except winning an occasional modification of a tax bill or something, which they gloat over and congratulate each other as though little house keeping victories every few years are changing anything enduring, as though time and destiny isn’t rolling over them as lost decades and lost generations slip away.

Clueless, wooden, bloodless, mediocre management people, not leaders, not crusaders, not evangelists, just crumb collecting, career, mid level corporate managers, the GOP has not changed since before I was born, how do you inspire people when you don’t even have a cause of your own, no belief, no passions.


36 posted on 11/21/2012 11:38:30 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: chessplayer

When I heard that the democrats were saying that racist, sexist republicans didn’t want a “woman of color” named Rice to be Secretary of State, I thought it was satire. Am I the only person on the planet that remembers that Condi Rice was a female, black, republican and Secretary of State and MOST IRONICALLY, named RICE!!!!!??????


37 posted on 11/22/2012 1:19:12 AM PST by douginthearmy
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To: chessplayer

Much of this “tude” is being driven through the support of the media. Until it’s confronted, identified, and their existance threatened with fact and truth..Acceptance of their positions are not going to change. Boycotts are not the answer, confrontation is.


38 posted on 11/22/2012 3:13:38 AM PST by mosesdapoet ("A voice crying in the wilderness make streight for the way of the Lord")
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To: chessplayer
People who followed the Rwandan genocide in the 1990’s sure know who she is. She was the point person in Slick’s State Department who's incompetence or uncaring was responsible for our policy in regards to Rwanda at the time. She figured prominently in our inaction at the time.
39 posted on 11/22/2012 3:39:43 AM PST by gusty
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To: sickoflibs
Rice had no responsibility for the Benghazi deaths. But she did promote on TV a big lie about it to get O re-elected.

Rice was NOT needed as a political prop----in order to get O reelected. The sinister O Team had the election fixed way before Rice trotted out on talk TV with "Tales from Benghazi"--written by the WH Brothers Grimm.

Rice’s unblinking statements, puppeted on talk TV, are sum and substance of the Democrat COVERUP (orchestrated by the WH).

Using the Democrat’s Watergate Rules, if Rice made the statements knowing they were lies, that’s reason enough—under Dem’s own rules-—for a govt official to end up in prison.

YOO-HOO, REPUBLICANS The real issue is four dead Americans in Benghazi and WHY the US govt made no effort to help them.

40 posted on 11/22/2012 5:31:09 AM PST by Liz ("Come quickly, I'm tasting the stars," Dom Perignon)
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