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A Conversation with Ann Barnhardt
iOwnTheWorld ^ | November 21, 2012

Posted on 11/21/2012 8:19:09 PM PST by Katechon

Edited on 11/22/2012 5:42:11 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
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1 posted on 11/21/2012 8:19:11 PM PST by Katechon
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To: Katechon

I find myself agreeing with Anne more and more recently....

This scares me....


2 posted on 11/21/2012 8:53:32 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Katechon

Ann is on a tax strike to protest against the tyranny of the Obama régime. On October 27, the IRS confiscated Ann's bank account.

3 posted on 11/21/2012 9:06:22 PM PST by Katechon (tax strike)
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To: Katechon

I give the woman kudos.
She’s put everything on the line.

Those that think she’s a nut don’t appreciate all that she has done and wouldn’t attempt to do 1/8 of what she has accomplished.

I pray she stays safe and out of jail, but, I think if Bath-House Barry, his IRS minions and Holder incarcerate her, she’ll end up doing even MORE good from jail.

THAT’S where all the testosterone has gone...Ann Barnhardt’s got it.


4 posted on 11/21/2012 9:10:41 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Katechon
I watched her full 2 hour and 25 minute presentation on YouTube.

She's "dead on" in what she says in terms of it being too late. It can't be walked back. The system will implode.

Her explanation of how contaminated the system is with the stench and decay of CDS ( credit default swaps ) is something I was questioning 3 or 4 years ago, but few thought it meant anything. It turns out this is the terminal disease that will directly cause the implosion.

5 posted on 11/21/2012 9:36:18 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: Mortrey

Even on the threads I start myself I need to wait half an hour for my comments to appear! And even then, some of ‘em never make it.

Is it the case for you guys as well?

If not, what should I do to be able to comment directly, immediately?


6 posted on 11/21/2012 9:40:26 PM PST by Katechon (tax strike)
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To: Katechon

Everything I post appears immediately. You’re a noob and still probably being supervised. Forgive the mods; they must continually wrestle with trolls from DU who register in order to cause trouble.


7 posted on 11/21/2012 10:22:29 PM PST by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: Katechon

I’m afraid that Anne may very well be right. We are in for some difficult times.


8 posted on 11/21/2012 11:02:14 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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Bookmark


9 posted on 11/21/2012 11:32:00 PM PST by freds6girlies (many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first. Mt. 19:30. R.I.P. G & J)
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To: VideoDoctor
This guy -- MICHAEL BURRY -- made tens of millions of dollars betting against sub-prime mortgages loans by buying CDS...

"The idea hit him as he read a book about the evolution of the U.S. bond market and the creation, in the mid-1990s, at J. P. Morgan, of the first corporate credit-default swaps. He came to a passage explaining why banks felt they needed credit-default swaps at all. It wasn’t immediately obvious—after all, the best way to avoid the risk of General Electric’s defaulting on its debt was not to lend to General Electric in the first place. In the beginning, credit-default swaps had been a tool for hedging: some bank had loaned more than they wanted to to General Electric because G.E. had asked for it, and they feared alienating a long-standing client; another bank changed its mind about the wisdom of lending to G.E. at all. Very quickly, however, the new derivatives became tools for speculation: a lot of people wanted to make bets on the likelihood of G.E.’s defaulting. It struck Burry: Wall Street is bound to do the same thing with subprime-mortgage bonds, too. Given what was happening in the real-estate market—and given what subprime-mortgage lenders were doing—a lot of smart people eventually were going to want to make side bets on subprime-mortgage bonds. And the only way to do it would be to buy a credit-default swap.

The credit-default swap would solve the single biggest problem with Mike Burry’s big idea: timing. The subprime-mortgage loans being made in early 2005 were, he felt, almost certain to go bad. But, as their interest rates were set artificially low and didn’t reset for two years, it would be two years before that happened. Subprime mortgages almost always bore floating interest rates, but most of them came with a fixed, two-year “teaser” rate. A mortgage created in early 2005 might have a two-year “fixed” rate of 6 percent that, in 2007, would jump to 11 percent and provoke a wave of defaults. The faint ticking sound of these loans would grow louder with time, until eventually a lot of people would suspect, as he suspected, that they were bombs. Once that happened, no one would be willing to sell insurance on subprime-mortgage bonds. He needed to lay his chips on the table now and wait for the casino to wake up and change the odds of the game. A credit-default swap on a 30-year subprime-mortgage bond was a bet designed to last for 30 years, in theory. He figured that it would take only three to pay off.

The only problem was that there was no such thing as a credit-default swap on a subprime-mortgage bond, not that he could see. He’d need to prod the big Wall Street firms to create them. But which firms? If he was right and the housing market crashed, these firms in the middle of the market were sure to lose a lot of money. There was no point buying insurance from a bank that went out of business the minute the insurance became valuable. He didn’t even bother calling Bear Stearns and Lehman Brothers, as they were more exposed to the mortgage-bond market than the other firms. Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, Deutsche Bank, Bank of America, UBS, Merrill Lynch, and Citigroup were, to his mind, the most likely to survive a crash. He called them all. Five of them had no idea what he was talking about; two came back and said that, while the market didn’t exist, it might one day. Inside of three years, credit-default swaps on subprime-mortgage bonds would become a trillion-dollar market and precipitate hundreds of billions of losses inside big Wall Street firms. Yet, when Michael Burry pestered the firms in the beginning of 2005, only Deutsche Bank and Goldman Sachs had any real interest in continuing the conversation. No one on Wall Street, as far as he could tell, saw what he was seeing."

10 posted on 11/21/2012 11:45:58 PM PST by Katechon (tax strike)
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To: VideoDoctor

Here is the Economic Presentation by Ann that VideoDoctor is referring to: "The Economy Is Going To Implode"

11 posted on 11/21/2012 11:46:11 PM PST by Katechon (tax strike)
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To: VideoDoctor
“We have the chance to walk straight back into Rome at the side of Our Lord, face Caesar and show the world how Christians stand and face evil, and bend our knee ONLY to Our Crucified Lord.

And then … watch what happens.

I know where I’m going. I’m going to Rome to face down Caesar Obama and be crucified with Our Lord who already has and will have the Final Victory. If you should meet Our Lord as you are exiting Rome, will you turn around, take up your cross and go with Him, or will you lower your eyes and pretend not to see Him?

Where are YOU going?

Quo Vadis?”

– Ann Barnhardt


12 posted on 11/21/2012 11:46:23 PM PST by Katechon (tax strike)
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To: Eagles6




13 posted on 11/21/2012 11:46:31 PM PST by Katechon
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To: Katechon

Ann is a brave girl!


14 posted on 11/22/2012 12:02:13 AM PST by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningful to say)
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To: Katechon

What is also interesting about Ann is a deal she has with "the sniper and SPECOPS community in the United States”.
"If the musloids or anyone else actually managed to kill me, WW3 would start five minutes later. Sniper teams would form, as I have the “100 Heads” protection guarantee from the sniper and SPECOPS community in the United States. And the 100:1 isn’t a total. It is PER SNIPER. Bye-bye, Dearborn."
-- Ann Barnhardt
15 posted on 11/22/2012 12:04:10 AM PST by Katechon
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To: Katechon

There it is.


16 posted on 11/22/2012 12:09:00 AM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: vanilla swirl
"I recently saw a video of an Islamic execution taped in the Middle East. In it, the three condemned men were bound hand and foot, standing beside an incinerator, or furnace. The men were doused with an accelerant, presumably gasoline, and then thrown alive into the incinerator, where they could be seen writhing in flames as they died in the furnace. These men were not Jews, but that is beside the point. They were human beings who ran afoul of Sharia Law.

This is what is coming. This, and executions like this, are the inevitable destination of both islam and Marxism. Hitler had his ovens. Stalin had his gulags. Mao had his execution quotas. The Khmer Rouge had their killing fields.

And so here is what I say to all people of good will, but specifically today to the Jews. If a second holocaust begins and you find yourself standing bound on the precipice of an incinerator – I’m coming.

My first tactical objective will be to come in, guns-a-blazing, and rescue you and we’ll both get out of there, and hopefully take a bunch of evil men out in the process. That is objective number one.

If that doesn’t work and I am unable to free you by force of arms, I will negotiate with the evil executioners to switch places with you. I will offer to be executed in your place, so long as you are freed. That is tactical objective number two.

If that doesn’t work, then I am going to stay and die with you.

There is no possible way that I am going to turn my back on you as you stand on the precipice of the incinerator, walk away and let you die alone and afraid and then congratulate myself on my ability to “handle and survive the situation”. No. I am going to stand beside you, I am going to throw my arms around you, and I am going hold you and tell you that I love you. I am going to make certain that the last sounds you hear ringing in your ears on this earth are the sounds of a friend telling you that you are loved, and that you are precious, and that you are not, never have been, and never will be alone. And then we will go into the incinerator together. Because I can’t think of a better way to die – with the words “I love you” on my lips. THAT is tactical objective number three.

One final question. Do you honestly believe that Barack Obama or Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid or John Kerry or any of the Hollywood people, or Michael Moore or Keith Olbermann or Joy Behar or any of the people who would call me a venomous hate-spewing bigot would stay and die with you if it came down to that? Of course they wouldn’t and we all know this. But I am the hate monger. I’m the bigot. I am the danger to society.

Ladies and gentlemen, Western Civilization has officially jumped the shark. The words, “I love you”, delivered in sincere Christian charity are now a hate crime that warrants the suppression of free speech.

Thank you for your time.

My name is Ann Barnhardt . . . . and I love you."


17 posted on 11/22/2012 12:15:18 AM PST by Katechon
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To: Katechon

I heard a major American party curse God. And then America elected them to the highest office in the land.

Our countrymen have invited judgement.

The rest of us need to be looking up and preparing for dark days. Pray, work and prepare to be there for the people closest to you. When everyone else is losing their heads you’ll have to keep yours. God is with us, we just have to hold fast and keep courage.

Then when the shaking stops be prepared to rebuild.


18 posted on 11/22/2012 1:13:12 AM PST by marron
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To: GraceG

I hear ya’ - she may be a little extreme for some - but like you - I’m more and more seeing the efficacy of what she’s saying.

People think I’m nuts when I say we won’t make it to 2016 - they need to listen to Ann......


19 posted on 11/22/2012 3:11:09 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Katechon

I am only 30 minutes into the video and I am floored!
These are some of the same connections (humbly) I have been making for the last couple of years but Ann has put them together in an amazingly compelling way!

So far I differ in this way; I will continue to pay my taxes and obey the law as much as I can to keep a low profile. I want to be around on the other side of whatever conflagration to help rebuild.
God willing!


20 posted on 11/22/2012 4:33:34 AM PST by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningful to say)
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To: surroundedbyblue

Bttt


21 posted on 11/22/2012 4:52:45 AM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: Katechon
While I agree with much of what she says, much of her actions aren't Scripturally supported. Jesus said "Render unto Caesar...", not "don't pay your taxes." She has already reaped that result.

I also thought immediately of the men marching in a furnace, when she talked about the killing of infidels. (Dan 3: 16 Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego replied to him, “King Nebuchadnezzar, we do not need to defend ourselves before you in this matter. 17 If we are thrown into the blazing furnace, the God we serve is able to deliver us from it, and he will deliver us from Your Majesty’s hand. 18 But even if he does not, we want you to know, Your Majesty, that we will not serve your gods or worship the image of gold you have set up.")

But setting aside those (and a few more) comments, I think we are heading for a Final Judgment. Will it mean the end of the World? I have no idea. Should we be ready? Absolutely! Prepping may be a thoughtful thing, but as followers of Christ, we should pay attention to all His words.

As a Christian, I believe Him. As a Boy Scout, I learned the motto, "Be Prepared"... so I am!

Matthew 6: 25 “Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothes? 26 Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? 27 Can any one of you by worrying add a single hour to your life?

28 “And why do you worry about clothes? See how the flowers of the field grow. They do not labor or spin. 29 Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. 30 If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you—you of little faith? 31 So do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ 32 For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. 33 But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. 34 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own. ...


22 posted on 11/22/2012 5:56:36 AM PST by WVKayaker ("Mitt Romney couldn't keep up with lies and spin of Barack Obama" - Sarah Palin 10/24)
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To: Katechon

BUmp!


23 posted on 11/22/2012 7:00:51 AM PST by foxfield
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To: PatriotGirl827

for later


24 posted on 11/22/2012 8:14:31 AM PST by PatriotGirl827 (O Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee)
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To: GraceG
Why does it scare you Grace?

Because she is saying what we are all thinking?

25 posted on 11/22/2012 11:44:31 AM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: KC_Lion

Becausee what she says is both dire and undoubtedly TRUE.


26 posted on 11/22/2012 12:40:18 PM PST by GraceG
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To: WVKayaker
"Jesus said "Render unto Caesar...", not "don't pay your taxes." She has already reaped that result." Yeah, but Ann explained why the Obama régime FORCES US to choose between Caesar and Christ. ObamaCare mandates that all citizens, employers and institutions pay for abortion, sterilization, contraception. Subsidizing ObamaCare with your taxes is a sin. That's why Ann says she is forced to go all-in Christ, and to declare war on Caesar-Obama.
"Friends, if I advance, follow me!
If I retreat, kill me!
If I die, avenge me!"
--Henri de la Rochejaquelein

27 posted on 11/22/2012 3:10:00 PM PST by Katechon
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To: Katechon
Yeah, but Ann explained why the Obama régime FORCES US to choose between Caesar and Christ.

I must have missed that part of Christ's missive where he excepted our right to pick and choose Caesar's regulations. I seem to remember that Caesar was CRUCIFYING PEOPLE! Jesus placed no qualifiers, only the requirement to "render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's"...

I appreciate her zeal and knowledge, but doubt she would willingly walk into the fire. As the saying goes, "talk is cheap"! Jesus was God walking on Earth. We are weak kneed humans. Peter heard the cock crow, and was ashamed!!!

Which reminds me that we are having a FReepathon, so DONATE TO FreeRepublic TODAY. I repeat, "talk is cheap", and posting on FreeRepublic is a privilege, not a right. I think everybody needs to render unto Jim and John to keep us afloat and growing. This is the Premier site for likeminded conservative Christians!


28 posted on 11/22/2012 6:01:08 PM PST by WVKayaker ("Mitt Romney couldn't keep up with lies and spin of Barack Obama" - Sarah Palin 10/24)
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To: WVKayaker

What do you mean ‘talk is cheap’? She IS putting her money where her mouth is. She IS doing a tax strike.


29 posted on 11/22/2012 7:40:04 PM PST by Katechon
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To: WVKayaker

I sent you a reply, but for some reason, it did not pass the review!


30 posted on 11/22/2012 7:40:10 PM PST by Katechon
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To: Katechon
My "talk is cheap" reference was specific to her fire thing. Her tax strike was addressed first, when I quoted Jesus' "Render unto Caesar..." My Pop taught me that "you ALWAYS pay for your education". She should be learning much now!

She may have gone on strike, but the IRS will get everything she owns and leave her at the bottom of the heap. It's her choice, but it is not a "Christian" scripturally-based thing, imho. Think of the relationship of Twinkies and bakers...


31 posted on 11/22/2012 11:55:37 PM PST by WVKayaker ("Mitt Romney couldn't keep up with lies and spin of Barack Obama" - Sarah Palin 10/24)
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To: Katechon; VideoDoctor; Dick Bachert
Here is the Economic Presentation Economic Presentation by Ann that VideoDoctor is referring to: "The Economy Is Going To Implode".

Thank you and VideoDoctor for this thread and the link to her presentation.

Although is it long, about 2 1/2 hours, it is highly informative and well worth watching every minute. A real eye-opener.

32 posted on 11/23/2012 3:53:07 AM PST by foxfield
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To: WVKayaker

Yes, he did say “Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s...’ but here’s the problem...Caesar is taking that which is NOT HIS. The choice to participate in abortion is an individual choice, but in the name of the State, Obama has dictated that we will support that activity. Therefore, under the Scripture, Caesar is not due that subsidy, because it is not Caesar’s.


33 posted on 11/23/2012 4:35:55 AM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: foxfield; VideoDoctor

I watched all eight videos at the recommendation of VD (sorry) and was yelled at for spending Thanksgiving morning on the computer, but I am thankful that I did.

Unfortunately, it changed me and my perspective toward a lot of things and it made it extremely hard to come back here and read arguments about how we have to attract a higher percentage of Hispanic voters. Bah, Humbug.


34 posted on 11/23/2012 4:39:21 AM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: ez
...but here’s the problem...Caesar is taking that which is NOT HIS. The choice to participate in abortion any activity is an individual choice, but in the name of the State, Obama the Gum't has dictated that we will support that all activity. Our money still states "In God We Trust", but He has withdrawn His blessings on this land (IMHO). BUT, we are not on our own.

As a Christian, it is my obligation to "give unto Caesar". I also reject abortion and a myriad of other details of modern society, but we must remember our primary task. "Go into ALL the world and spread the Gospel (Good News)". Our war is not against flesh and blood, but against powers and principalities...

I am thankful for the Word, as it is OUR guide... and these words from James speaks volumes!

James 5: Be patient, then, brothers and sisters, until the Lord’s coming. See how the farmer waits for the land to yield its valuable crop, patiently waiting for the autumn and spring rains. 8 You too, be patient and stand firm, because the Lord’s coming is near. 9 Don’t grumble against one another, brothers and sisters, or you will be judged. The Judge is standing at the door!

10 Brothers and sisters, as an example of patience in the face of suffering, take the prophets who spoke in the name of the Lord. 11 As you know, we count as blessed those who have persevered. You have heard of Job’s perseverance and have seen what the Lord finally brought about. The Lord is full of compassion and mercy.

12 Above all, my brothers and sisters, do not swear—not by heaven or by earth or by anything else. All you need to say is a simple “Yes” or “No.” Otherwise you will be condemned.

13 Is anyone among you in trouble? Let them pray. Is anyone happy? Let them sing songs of praise. 14 Is anyone among you sick? Let them call the elders of the church to pray over them and anoint them with oil in the name of the Lord. 15 And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise them up. If they have sinned, they will be forgiven. 16 Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective.

17 Elijah was a human being, even as we are. He prayed earnestly that it would not rain, and it did not rain on the land for three and a half years. 18 Again he prayed, and the heavens gave rain, and the earth produced its crops.

19 My brothers and sisters, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring that person back, 20 remember this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of their way will save them from death and cover over a multitude of sins.

35 posted on 11/23/2012 5:03:20 AM PST by WVKayaker ("Mitt Romney couldn't keep up with lies and spin of Barack Obama" - Sarah Palin 10/24)
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To: Katechon

bttt


36 posted on 11/23/2012 11:16:02 AM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Katechon

And Wells Fargo charged her $100 for the “service”

Unbelievable.

Love Ann Barnhardt


37 posted on 11/23/2012 11:18:22 AM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: WVKayaker; ez; foxfield; GraceG; KC_Lion; PatriotGirl827; surroundedbyblue; Psalm 73; marron; ...

We can CONSENT to pay taxes in a spirit of truth, justice, solidarity and freedom, but only if those four specific ends are served by our taxes.

-- Ann Barnhardt

Are we going to be held to account for subsidizing abortion?

What if paying taxes puts you in violation of the First Commandment (I AM the LORD thy God; thou shalt not have strange gods before me.)?

"Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's" is NOT a release from the First Commandment.

-- Ann Barnhardt

Don't you think that, by forcing you to break God's Law in order to follow the laws of the state, the Obama régime forces you to choose between Caesar and Christ? Or is this a false dichotomy?

YOU [EDITED] WORSHIP THE I.R.S. ABOVE GOD. YOU FEAR THE I.R.S., BUT DO NOT FEAR GOD, HIS JUDGEMENT OR HIS WRATH IN THE SLIGHTEST. And you call yourselves Christian? Really?

-- Ann Barnhardt

If you agree that the Obama Régime is utterly lawless, why would you still consent to pay taxes? Why would you continue subsidizing it? Is it that you feel you owe Caesar something?

Earlier this week, Ann talked about her tax strike with BigFurHat.

And yesterday, she RESPONDED to a few comments of the iOwnTheWorld thread:

part 2, Part 3, part 4, part 5, part 6.

“I’m going to Rome to face down Caesar Obama and be crucified with Our Lord who already has and will have the Final Victory.

Ann Barnhardt

We need a Christ today Who will make cords and drive the buyers and sellers from our new temples; Who will blast the unfruitful fig-trees; Who will talk of crosses and sacrifices and Whose voice will be like the voice of the raging sea. But He will not allow us to pick and choose among His words, discarding the hard ones, and accepting the ones that please our fancy. We need a Christ Who will restore moral indignation, Who will make us hate evil with a passionate intensity, and love goodness to a point where we can drink death like water.

-Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen "Life of Christ", AD 1958


38 posted on 11/23/2012 11:36:20 AM PST by Katechon (annbarnhardt; cw2;)
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To: GraceG; Katechon
Roger that Grace.

You want to know how I spent MY Black Friday morning?

I listened to her entire lecture on Youtube.

She is 100% Right on!

39 posted on 11/23/2012 12:31:13 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Katechon
We need a Christ today Who will make cords and drive the buyers and sellers from our new temples; Who will blast the unfruitful fig-trees; Who will talk of crosses and sacrifices and Whose voice will be like the voice of the raging sea. But He will not allow us to pick and choose among His words, discarding the hard ones, and accepting the ones that please our fancy. We need a Christ Who will restore moral indignation, Who will make us hate evil with a passionate intensity, and love goodness to a point where we can drink death like water.
-Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen "Life of Christ", AD 1958

Maybe I missed something in Scripture, but WE ALREADY HAVE THAT CHRIST! THERE CAN BE NO OTHER! This is just more mumbo-jumbo that the Roman Catholic Church perpetuates. They still have Him on their crosses, and pray to His mother to reach His ear. He is risen! There is no other mediator than Christ!

I'll just give you some Scriptures in further reply. Study John chapters. 14 & 17, and I will close with some of Paul's words to the Roman church:

Romans 8: 31 What, then, shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all—how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things? 33 Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. 34 Who then is the one who condemns? No one. Christ Jesus who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us. 35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? 36 As it is written:

“For your sake we face death all day long; we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.”

37 No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[k] neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.


40 posted on 11/23/2012 12:32:46 PM PST by WVKayaker ("Mitt Romney couldn't keep up with lies and spin of Barack Obama" - Sarah Palin 10/24)
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To: Katechon; Jim Robinson
Thank you for the post. Why isn't this thread listed under some appropriate sidebar so more Freepers might find it?

Jim, please check your pinger! How about it?

41 posted on 11/23/2012 1:43:02 PM PST by foxfield
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To: foxfield

Interesting how she ‘poo-poohed’ Rush Limbaugh as any kind of leader, but thought Allen West was the only man visible in our culture who could take the ‘bull by the horns’ and serve as that leader. No wonder they wanted West out of office.


42 posted on 11/23/2012 2:25:38 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Psalm 73
People think I’m nuts when I say we won’t make it to 2016...

Nuts? I say 'visionary'...

43 posted on 11/23/2012 2:28:02 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: who knows what evil?
Interesting how she ‘poo-poohed’ Rush Limbaugh as any kind of leader, but thought Allen West was the only man visible in our culture who could take the ‘bull by the horns’ and serve as that leader.

I didn't know what she thinks about Rush Limbaugh.

Did you watch the video? She did not speak so kindly of Allen West, or Sarah Palin, or most of the other GOP presidential hopefuls for that matter.

She is pretty edgy, not over the top, but close. Definely worth watching.

44 posted on 11/23/2012 2:38:11 PM PST by foxfield
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To: foxfield

I have seen most of Ann’s videos, and I check her blog daily to see if she has posted anything new...post #38 has links to the six ‘Ann Barnhardt Responds’ videos where she states that Rush would never stick his neck out because he could never part with his wealth, and she speaks highly of West toward the end of the fifth video, I believe. She said she only spent two minutes talking to West, but came away thinking that he might be the only man left that has potential as a ‘leader’...


45 posted on 11/23/2012 2:59:02 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Katechon

Somewhat astoundingly (by my reckoning) they let him speak at the UCLA biz school graduation:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-11-22/michael-burrys-reminder-after-every-over-consumption-brutal-hangover-inevitable


46 posted on 11/23/2012 3:11:51 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: nascarnation

Thanks for that link, Nascarnation.
It speaks well of the UCLA business school. Mr Burry is a very, very astute investor.


47 posted on 11/23/2012 4:10:00 PM PST by Katechon
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To: Katechon
Do I have to pay taxes? Of course not.

What are the alternatives? Government confiscation of my assets would be the first alternative. Well, this would simply put me in solidarity with the MF Global customers who have also had their assets confiscated. So be it.

The next step would be imprisonment. Fine. So be it.

I acknowledge in truth that this is, in fact, the alternative. I do not lie to myself and tell myself that there is NO alternative. You people out there keep saying to yourself that there is NO CHOICE between the government and God because having your assets confiscated or going to prison is impossible, and therefore no choice exists. This is a lie. There IS a choice, and we are all being called to make that choice, here, now, in this moment.

Some people have said, I have children. What do you expect me to do? Well, I suppose I expect you to do exactly what Thomas Jefferson did. Jefferson wrote and signed the Declaration of Independence in 1776 when he was 33 years old. Writing and signing the Declaration made Jefferson, along with all of the signers, traitors and seditionists against King George III and the British Empire. This was a capital offense and pushed Jefferson and the rest of the Founding Fathers into the corner of either winning independence or dying at the end of a rope as a war trophy. At the time, his daughter Patsy was three years old. Not only did Jefferson sign the Declaration, he threw himself into the Revolutionary War and became Governor of Virginia. And while all of this was going on, Jefferson had five more children. Jane was born in 1774. A son was born and died within hours in 1777. Mary was born in 1778. Lucy was born in 1780 and died soon thereafter. Lucy Elizabeth was born in 1782. Jeffersons home, Monticello, was a target of the British, and was in fact captured in 1781 by Cornwallis. Jefferson and his family managed to escape with only minutes to spare after being warned by a young Virginia militiaman. The British then destroyed everything except the main house. All of the crops, livestock and outbuildings were burned or seized.

Questions? The decadent freedom that you enjoy and are getting ready to piss away was largely made possible by a young man who was already financially established and the father of young children, pushing it all in and putting an enormous target on his own back. Heaven forbid that we should LEARN ANYTHING from history or FOLLOW THE EXAMPLE of those that came before us.

Jefferson, and the rest of the Founders, knew that they had a choice laid out before them. They could either revolt against tyranny or surrender to it.

We are facing exactly the same choice right now, except that the tyranny that we are now facing is far, far worse than anything Jefferson and the Founders were facing. King George never tried to tax the Colonists on their mere existence, as ObamaCare does. King George never tried to force the Colonists to embrace and celebrate sexual perversion. King George never tried to force the Colonists to pay for and even participate in abortion. King George never attempted to import and establish the satanic scourge of islam in the Colonies.

We are so far past and beyond the long train of abuses and usurpations that the Colonists and Founders experienced and which necessitated the Revolutionary War that they arent even visible in the rear-view mirror. I dare say that being a Colonist in 1775 did not, by definition, break eight of the Ten Commandments or put a person is a probable state of mortal sin.

And so back to the core premise: the government cant make you do anything. There is always an alternative, and at a certain point, the alternative of non-compliance is not only available, it is REQUIRED. Read the Declaration:

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
It is our right and our DUTY to throw off this government. It is not legitimate and does not possess the consent of the governed, and thus has NO AUTHORITY. This is not to say that this government does not have power: yes it still does have power, but it has NO AUTHORITY. At this point, the only way it can continue to operate is by means of violent coercion, namely property confiscation, imprisonment and execution.

This is YOUR country: thieving, murdering criminals running utterly amok, holding their power only through violent coercion and the threat of violent coercion. And it could all be brought to a screeching halt tomorrow if We The People would just turn that intellectual corner and realize that the unjust laws of an illegitimate government need not and should not be followed. They have no power over us. We have power over them, because they derive their JUST powers from the consent of the governed. Withdraw the consent, and the power is gone. Anything remaining is therefore, by definition, UNJUST, and thus must be abolished thrown off, to use Jeffersons words.

Of course you can own and carry a gun. You have the God-given right to your life, and the right to protect yourself, your family and your property. No one can ever, ever take that right away from you except YOU. The state can pass as many laws as it wants banning gun ownership and bearing, but every single one of those laws is illegitimate, and thus should not be followed.

How can the government force you to accept Sharia law, or any evil satanic system? Only YOU decide what you do or do not accept. Obama could write an Executive Order tomorrow declaring that the musloid screech to prayer be blasted from loudspeakers in every city and town five times per day, and the only true use or value that Executive Order would have is as toilet paper. Obama cant make you accept Sharia law any more than he can make you fly like Superman.

ObamaCare can only force you out of business if you COMPLY with it. The government can only force you into mortal sin if you COMPLY and CONSENT. Obama can mandate that we all buy health insurance, and that all insurance policies cover abortion and contraception. And we can all laugh in his face. His fat wife can further mandate that we all eat celery sticks and tofu on Mondays and Thursdays, and we can likewise laugh in her painted-up-thicker-than-a-tranny face. These people have no power over us. They are slack-jawed, carney-trash gutter filth, and nothing more. Any power they have over us is power that we must specifically consent to give to them. I withdraw my consent. You got a problem with that, Barry? Molon labe.

Finally, back to the theological aspect of all of this, because thats how I roll up in here. Look at a Crucifix. What you are seeing in a Crucifix is the stark horror of your own freedom and personal sovereignty. You are free to choose, as is every single being made in the image of God. We are so free that God consents to allowing us to choose to torture and kill Him. Oh, yes, we always, always have a choice.

And now, because we have allowed it, the choice now stands as this: Either choose to spare yourself the wrath of an evil, illegitimate government or choose to scourge and crucify Christ. Pick up the flagellum and lean into Him. Skin Him. Make Him bleed and shake in pain.

Then pick up that hammer and those nails and drive them in. Feel the bones in His feet and ankles crunch as you pound that nail in.

And as youre doing this, look Him in the eye with a big sh**-eating grin on your face. Tell Him how you have no choice, because its either this, or you might lose your job, or your 4000 square foot house. And thats not even a contest, right? I mean, who WOULDNT torture and kill their best friend, brother, father, spouse, creator and savior in order to stay in the good graces of the IRS and keep a job or a pension income?

The choice is yours. It always has been and always will be. This life will only last for a few more decades at most. What comes after that is eternal. Choose wisely.

-- ANN BARNHARDT


48 posted on 11/23/2012 5:48:03 PM PST by Katechon
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