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Man shoots and kills charging dog in Charlotte County(FL)
fox4now.com ^ | 21 November, 2012 | Staff

Posted on 11/22/2012 4:50:18 AM PST by marktwain

GULF COVE, Fla. - A man out on a walk Tuesday morning came face to face with two charging dogs in Gulf Coast. He shot and killed one of the dogs.

A witness told deputies he saw the entire incident in the area of Gillot Boulevard and Holton Terrace.

Deputies met with Frank Gross, 63, who lives several blocks away on Flemming Street. He advised he was out for his usual five-mile walk along the same route he takes every day. He said two large Boxer dogs were let out of the home at 5403 Holton Terrace and were not on leashes. Gross said he was across the street and the two dogs came charging towards him. He said he yelled for the dogs to get back, but they kept coming. Fearing for his safety, Gross told deputies he reached into his fanny pack and withdrew a .22 caliber pistol and fired one shot killing one of the dogs; the second dog fled.


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More than one dog is a "pack". Dogs in a pack behave much differently than individual dogs.
1 posted on 11/22/2012 4:50:26 AM PST by marktwain
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2 posted on 11/22/2012 4:53:21 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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If you can’t afford a home with a yard contained by a fence or are too lazy to walk your own large, aggressive dogs on a leash, you get what’s coming to you.


3 posted on 11/22/2012 4:53:55 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: marktwain

>>More than one dog is a “pack”. Dogs in a pack behave much differently than individual dogs.

Very good point! I think it must be something to do with the hunting instinct - none of them wants to be last at the table.


5 posted on 11/22/2012 5:00:32 AM PST by expat1000
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The dogs were coming to lick him

Over exuberant killing


6 posted on 11/22/2012 5:01:52 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: fwdude
If you can’t afford a home with a yard contained by a fence or are too lazy to walk your own large, aggressive dogs on a leash, you get what’s coming to you.

Unfortunately, the dog pays the bigger price. What's more, a man minding his own business was put in fear of his well-being and forced to shoot a brute animal.
7 posted on 11/22/2012 5:02:00 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: marktwain

The story says he takes this 5 mile walk along the same route every day. He lives a few blocks away.

It would be hard to convince me that he has not encountered these same two dogs before. This day he took his pistol with him, and shot one of them.

I feel the shooting was intentional.

Now we do not know the circumstances.
1. Was he bitten before?
2. Did he ask the man who owns th dogs to keep them penned?
3. Why couldn’t he change his daily route so as to not meet these dogs?

4. Did the dog owner deliberately turn the dogs loose on this man?


8 posted on 11/22/2012 5:06:26 AM PST by Venturer
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To: bert

“The dogs were coming to lick him”

Certainly possible but unless you were there to see the event you can’t really say that for sure.

People should be free to walk down the street without being accosted by uncontrolled dogs. The dog paid the price for the lazy owner.


9 posted on 11/22/2012 5:10:49 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Venturer

>>This day he took his pistol with him, and shot one of them.

Where did you read that he only carried the gun on “this day”? He might carry a gun every day.

Also, a human should not have to change his daily route to avoid uncontrolled aggressive dogs. Talking to the owner is useless in most cases because all you get is the old “awww, these dogs wouldn’t hurt a fly!” response. Or you might get an angrier response and wind up having to shoot the owner.

Calling Animal Control us useless too. If they even show up, they’ll tell the owner to restrain his dogs and he’ll say that he will...and he won’t do it after they’re gone.

This is Florida and we don’t have an obligation to retreat from a human attacker, so a large attacking dog certainly gets shot.


10 posted on 11/22/2012 5:19:47 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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“... fired one shot killing one of the dogs...”

Somebody has been spending time at the range.


11 posted on 11/22/2012 5:21:32 AM PST by moovova (Happy Thanksgiving to all. Say a prayer for your country when you bow your head today.)
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The original story says that there was a witness who saw the dogs charging Gross. The witness said the dog that was shot was about a foot away from where Gross was standing when it was shot.

A foot is much to close to large dog that is acting very aggressively.


12 posted on 11/22/2012 5:27:18 AM PST by marktwain
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“fired one shot killing one of the dogs...””

“Somebody has been spending time at the range”

More like, “The dogs approached him and one of them stood still long enough for him to shoot it.” I believe this was planned. I’ve yet to meet a Boxer that is truly aggressive.


13 posted on 11/22/2012 5:31:29 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Bryanw92

In my opinion this man has had this happen more than once he walks the same route every day,and this day he decided to shoot the dog.

The right or wrong of it is not the topic of discussion to me, but I do believe he started out this morning with his mind made up to shoot the dog.


14 posted on 11/22/2012 5:42:28 AM PST by Venturer
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Somebody has been spending time at the range.

You do not have to be a great marksman to hit a large animal a foot away from you.

15 posted on 11/22/2012 5:42:36 AM PST by marktwain
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I do believe he started out this morning with his mind made up to shoot the dog.

Your opinion would imply that he expected the dogs to be running loose.

16 posted on 11/22/2012 5:45:07 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

See my post 14


17 posted on 11/22/2012 5:46:00 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer

It is certainly possible.


18 posted on 11/22/2012 5:47:37 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

If police departments were like college football teams, this man would be widely recruited.


19 posted on 11/22/2012 5:47:59 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Global Warming is a religion, and I don't want to be taxed to pay for a faith that is not mine.)
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1. Was he bitten before? 2. Did he ask the man who owns th dogs to keep them penned? 3. Why couldn’t he change his daily route so as to not meet these dogs? 4. Did the dog owner deliberately turn the dogs loose on this man?

1. Irrelevant
2. Not his responsibility
3. Why can't he assume he can walk on public land where ever he damn well pleases.
4. Is he supposed to figure that out while being mauled? ABSURD!

BANG! BANG! End of story. . .He was well within his rights to defend himself against two aggressive dogs that were charging him.

20 posted on 11/22/2012 5:47:59 AM PST by McBuff
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