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To: F15Eagle

You clearly do not know the Assad regime if you think that he would use them against Israel. Sometimes people are just ignorant about the issues. Israel is by far better off with Assad in power, Israel knows this, Assad knows this, the “insurgents” know this.

After Syria, will come Jordan and possibly Lebanon. What will happen will be the entire Middle east will be extremist sunni islamic political parties in power, all to neuter Iran which is a paper tiger in this case compared to the real threat of militant sunni islam. Israel is wiped off the face of the planet when it will be surrounded by sunni extremists.

A big difference for example can just be viewed in Saudi Arabia and Iran. You can’t practice Judaism in Saudi Arabia, you are not even allowed in the country. While Iran has synagogues, jewish iranians, jewish members of parliament, the largest church in the middle east, christian iranians. They might outlaw conversion but upon comparison i would choose the lesser evil to back. Saudi Arabia and militant Sunnis hate Jewish people, they heavily finance the spreading of islam across the world, building mosques in every country. Iran on the other hand make it clear when they talk about israel, they talk of zionism and the government not jewish people, there is a big difference. I know you will bring up their president talking about wiping them out has been misinterpreted so many times there are thousands of articles talking about it. That is besides the point as muslims always do some chest beating, I mean the guy has scandals where he gets misquoted about wiping them out as a nation and then goes on to say a two state solution would be acceptable.

They both suck but when you have two people you hate, who coincidentally hate each other; you dont help one of them. You keep them both strong, and let them keep fighting against each other.

I know im ranting, but im sick of people misunderstanding the enemy, and cheering for sunni terrorists of the same creed as those who attacked us on 9/11.(not accuse you of cheering them on but in general there has been support on FR for the “insurgents”)

Assad will not attack Israel, not in a million years, this is actually a very funny scenario where iran and israel want the same thing. Its a case of Israel vs Sunni vs Shiite. All three hate each other equally, so the wise thing is not to strengthen the Sunni to the extent where they can neutralize the Shiite threat, only to be left with Israel to deal with. You want a situation where the Sunni and the Shiite offset each other in such a manner that Israel is safe.
If the world wanted Assad gone he would be gone but thankfully there are entities in this world that arent completely retarded, in this case specifically Russia and China(cant believe i agree with them).

Apologies if I seem harsh in my response, that is not intended.


11 posted on 11/22/2012 5:39:28 PM PST by hannibaal
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To: hannibaal
Assad will not attack Israel, not in a million years, this is actually a very funny scenario where iran and israel want the same thing. Its a case of Israel vs Sunni vs Shiite. All three hate each other equally, so the wise thing is not to strengthen the Sunni to the extent where they can neutralize the Shiite threat, only to be left with Israel to deal with. You want a situation where the Sunni and the Shiite offset each other in such a manner that Israel is safe.

Good, concise explanation - Thanks.

18 posted on 11/22/2012 5:49:53 PM PST by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$, A$PCA, or PETA.)
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To: hannibaal
The folks who attacked us on 9/11 have ties to Iran. Furthermore, it is Iran that took out our embassy in Lebanon and the baracks of both the USMC and the French there. It is Iran that is moving Hezbollah operations into the western hemisphere, and it is Iran that is operating in Africa in support of Isamsts there, and the current head of AQ, Egyptian surgeon Zawahiri, has pretty good relations with Iran.

We need to get out of the silly mindet that these groups cannot work together against what they see as their ultimate common enemy.

32 posted on 11/22/2012 7:02:30 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: hannibaal

Well, his old man attacked (went to war with) Israel 4 times.

I say the acorn may not fall from the tree.

Guess we will see.

I am not saying it’s 100%.

But if “it’s better he’s in power .... in Syria” you do realize this is the same clown who had North Koreans building a nuclear facility, right?


35 posted on 11/22/2012 7:34:39 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: hannibaal
well said Israel is by far better off with Assad in power, Israel knows this, Assad knows this, the “insurgents” know this.
47 posted on 11/23/2012 2:19:41 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: hannibaal; odds; SunkenCiv; Eleutheria5
Iran which is a paper tiger in this case compared to the real threat of militant sunni islam. Israel is wiped off the face of the planet when it will be surrounded by sunni extremists.

Exactly. Shia'ism is the milder form in comparison to Sunni'ism or Ibadi'ism.

It accepts "local forms" and tolerates Persian culture

you correctly pointed out that there are synagogues and Churches in Iran but none in Saudia

Saudi Arabia and militant Sunnis hate Jewish people, they heavily finance the spreading of islam across the world, building mosques in every country. Iran on the other hand make it clear when they talk about israel, they talk of zionism and the government not jewish people, there is a big difference. -- exactly. They're still evil, just the lesser evil

48 posted on 11/23/2012 2:25:26 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: hannibaal; odds; SunkenCiv; Eleutheria5
Assad will not attack Israel, not in a million years, this is actually a very funny scenario where iran and israel want the same thing.

exactly.

Remember that before Gulf War I there were 3 sides in the Moslem fight: Sunnis, Shia's and secular Arab rules (Assad, Saddam, north Yemen, Tunisia) -- all three hated each other (alQaeda hated Saddam)

We knocked out Saddam when he could have been the ideal tool to fight Saudia and Iran. Gulf War I was a mistake -- and that made 9/11 and Gulf war II inevitable.

49 posted on 11/23/2012 2:28:40 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: cookcounty; hannibaal; nascarnation; cunning_fish
cook -- read above post from hannibal --> Israel is by far better off with Assad in power, Israel knows this, Assad knows this, the “insurgents” know this....Assad will not attack Israel, not in a million years, this is actually a very funny scenario where iran and israel want the same thing.

The only guys who would use the chemical weapons would be the Islamic jihadi "Syrian rebels" who are fighting Assad

50 posted on 11/23/2012 2:34:31 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: hannibaal

Yes. You watch from the sidelines and root for both sides to win.

I don’t think your take on Iran is correct though. They are looking via nukes and proxies to be the hegemon in the region.


63 posted on 11/23/2012 8:21:59 PM PST by dervish (either the vote was corrupt or the electorate is)
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