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Boehner comments show tough road ahead for "fiscal cliff" talks
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Posted on 11/22/2012 8:33:45 PM PST by Arthurio

WASHINGTON, Nov 22 (Reuters) - New comments from top Republican lawmaker John Boehner slamming health care reforms illustrate how hard it will be for Washington to reach a deficit reduction deal when talks resume next week, analysts said on Thursday.

President Barack Obama and the U.S. Congress will begin negotiating next week on a plan that could avert tax hikes and spending cuts set to begin in January that economists worry could push the U.S. economy over the "fiscal cliff" and into recession.

Boehner did not explicitly mention the "fiscal cliff" talks in an opinion piece published in the Cincinnati Enquirer on Wednesday. But he argued the nation cannot afford the costs of Obama's 2010 health care reform law, given the United State's sluggish economy and massive $16 trillion debt.

"That's why I've been clear that the law has to stay on the table as both parties discuss ways to solve our nation's massive debt challenge," said Boehner, who is a key player in the talks.

Boehner's comments show it won't be easy to reach a deal on the thorny tax and spending issues, said Greg Valliere, chief political strategist at Potomac Research Group in Washington.

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1 posted on 11/22/2012 8:33:52 PM PST by Arthurio
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To: Arthurio
Boehner's comments show it won't be easy to reach a deal on the thorny tax and spending issues, said Greg Valliere, chief political strategist at Potomac Research Group in Washington.

HorseFeathers!!! Why is it always up to the GOP to "compromise" with Husein the statist. He's taken tax cuts off the table, won't negotiate on 0bamacare or do anything to avert the fiscal cliff, yet it's always the GOP who are obstructionist. He acts like he has a decisive mandate when in reality he skated in by a few percentage points because he won places like Philly with 108% of the vote!!!! (Nothing to see there, move along....)

None of this matters though because the MSM acts as if the community organizer won in a landslide, and sadly so do Boehner and the GOP.

I'm getting to the point where I no longer even debate with liberals, I hope 0boober gets all he wants and we go right over the cliff.

2 posted on 11/22/2012 8:42:41 PM PST by YankeeReb
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To: YankeeReb

-— I’m getting to the point where I no longer even debate with liberals, I hope 0boober gets all he wants and we go right over the cliff. -—

It’s just a matter of time now. Obama fundamentally transformed America, as promised.

On the plus side, he may have converted a slow, 50-year decline, into a rapid five-year collapse, resulting in the death of socialism. That’s my hope.

Never thought I’d live to see this.


3 posted on 11/22/2012 8:50:43 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Arthurio

It’ll be easy to reach a deal alright.

What won’t be easy is how to position that smoke and mirrors so as to fool the stock, bond and currency traders into thinking something of substance has transpired.

The American public, well, they’re easily fooled so no worries there.


4 posted on 11/22/2012 8:51:16 PM PST by MichaelCorleone ('We the People' can and will take this country back...starting today.)
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To: Arthurio; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; ...
Considering that O was re-elected for no good reasons and Bohners history of negotiations with Dems have been disastrous so far I cant helping thinking :

Lets go off the cliff, to hell with it. If GWB was responsible for the bad economy at the end of his term then why try to save O from his? Let him worry about his legacy.

Anyone see a good ending for us here?

5 posted on 11/22/2012 8:51:53 PM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: sickoflibs; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican

The one silver lining of Obama winning, besides not having Romney as President, is it gives us the opportunity to have another huge midterm, take the Senate and start 2016 as the favorites.

It won’t happen automatically GOP must not F up.


6 posted on 11/22/2012 9:02:56 PM PST by Impy (Boehner for President - 2013)
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To: Arthurio

I predict a tourniquet will be applied at the last day, but in the long run it won’t matter, for the patient will still bleed to death. When, is anybody’s guess. The GOP “leadership” will surely fail us again and again.


7 posted on 11/22/2012 9:12:05 PM PST by Theodore R. ("Hey, they must all be crazy out there!")
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

My father told me over thirty yrs ago that it was a waste of time to try to put sense in a liberal’s head or argue with them Their mind is made up and they refuse to considr anything else,


8 posted on 11/22/2012 9:15:45 PM PST by RightLady
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To: RightLady

He was right. I finally figured that out after a few decades.

I tell my wife not to bother.

Just prepare, and let them “return to their vomit.”


9 posted on 11/22/2012 9:19:24 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Impy; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; ..
RE :”The one silver lining of Obama winning, besides not having Romney as President, is it gives us the opportunity to have another huge midterm, take the Senate and start 2016 as the favorites. It won’t happen automatically GOP must not F up.”

Here are a few basic questions I have been pondering:

How does Obama lose? Bad economy?

How do Republicans help this along without getting the blame?

If GWB got responsibility for the bad economy in 2008 ( not totally unreasonable) then should Bohner get it if it goes bad the next few years or Obama?? (OK, a rhetorical question) .

One important factor I noticed between 2011 (to now) and 2007 to 2008: Polls showed that most Americans thought that Republicans were in control of congress in 2007 and 2008, but most Americans think that Republicans are in control of congress the past two years too. Dems wanted it this way.
This is something totally missed by Republicans (but not by me!).
Dems know that if they don't have absolute power then they need to convince voters that its the Rs who are in charge of the unpopular split congress, not them. Republicans are not that smart.

10 posted on 11/22/2012 9:28:52 PM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: Arthurio
Boner's busy packin’ his personal parachute for when he helps push us off that cliff.
11 posted on 11/22/2012 10:23:07 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Impy
... GOP must not F up.

I'll be holding my breath...

12 posted on 11/22/2012 10:27:14 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: sickoflibs
Anyone see a good ending for us here?

Nope.

13 posted on 11/22/2012 10:29:08 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: sickoflibs

By 2008, the Sheeple had already soured on Bush, so it wasn’t hard to convince them to pin everything bad - including a worldwide real estate bubble meltdown - on him.


14 posted on 11/22/2012 11:32:32 PM PST by Arthurio
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To: Arthurio
Words are not Actions.

Actions are not Results.

Expectation here is only for tears.

15 posted on 11/23/2012 12:44:34 AM PST by jamaksin
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To: Arthurio
We need to jump over the fiscal cliff. We need to deleverage our debt below the 77% debt-to-GDP on our soveriegn and get out from under the 350% debt-to-GDP on the TCMDO.

This means spending cuts AND more taxes, both of which are in the "fiscal cliff."

Nothing is going to stop the long-wave contraction; the tussling up on Capital Hill is fiddlers playing and rearranging chairs as they try to pretend they didn't hit an iceberg.

16 posted on 11/23/2012 12:47:04 AM PST by TheWriterTX (Riding the Long-Wave Economic Contraction, Baby!)
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To: TheWriterTX

Let it burn.


17 posted on 11/23/2012 2:24:11 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Arthurio
"Boehner's comments show it won't be easy to reach a deal "

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18 posted on 11/23/2012 3:03:56 AM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Arthurio
"Boehner's comments show it won't be easy to reach a deal "

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19 posted on 11/23/2012 3:04:18 AM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Arthurio

Boehner will fold like an origamist paper project.


20 posted on 11/23/2012 5:10:35 AM PST by chainsaw ("Two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by Obama")
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The GOP is just Democrat-Lite if they do not vote out Boehner as Speaker....he is an invertibrate


21 posted on 11/23/2012 5:17:12 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Marco Rubio is not a Conservative. "Amnesty Liberals" are never Conservative)
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To: sickoflibs

King Barry signed sequestration into law. I say let it happen.


22 posted on 11/23/2012 12:02:08 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Arthurio
Boehner's comments show it won't be easy to reach a deal on the thorny tax and spending issues, said Greg Valliere, chief political strategist at Potomac Research Group in Washington.

It'll be difficult right up to the moment Boehner caves. Like he ALWAYS does.

23 posted on 11/23/2012 12:04:55 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: TurboZamboni; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; ...
RE :”King Barry signed sequestration into law. I say let it happen.”

That part of the so called fiscal cliff is just the automatic spending cuts part so I see NO reason why Rs should do anything to try to stop those, they made a big deal about how spending was killing us (since 2009 anyway) and they still are saying that, while at the same time whining about how some of these automatic budget cuts (the defense cuts) that they passed in the R house are really bad for the country. These type of mixed-confused messages by them are just making them look stupid.

Repealing those automatic budget cuts would mean that Republicans taking over the House in 2011 was completely meaningless as that bill was their only success. This is so simple.

Now on taxes I expect things to get ugly. I dont look forward to it.

24 posted on 11/23/2012 1:59:25 PM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: Arthurio

Isn’t it interesting how, according to Reuters, it is Boehner’s comments - - not Pelosi’s, Reid’s, or Ubanga’s comments - - that “show a tough road ahead” for fiscal cliff talks?


25 posted on 11/23/2012 2:03:58 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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26 posted on 11/23/2012 2:05:59 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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