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National German gun registry on target for launch
Deutsche Welle ^ | 11-19-2012

Posted on 11/23/2012 7:43:19 AM PST by KeyLargo

National German gun registry on target for launch

The German interior minister has said a countrywide database of all legal gun owners is set for launch on January 1. Hans-Peter Friedrich predicted a "considerable increase in security" as a result.

The German government plans to launch its complete registry of legal gun owners at the beginning of next year, two years ahead of a deadline set by the EU.

As with many German authorities, those responsible for weapons licensing and tracking operated on a local basis - with a total of 551 authorities around the country. Under new EU laws, all member countries are obliged to compile a centralized register.

There are an estimated 6 million licensed firearms in Germany.

Interior Minister Hans-Peter Friedrich told reporters in Berlin that the database would provide "a very concrete contribution towards improving public safety." Thanks to the information, he said; police would be able to check "who owns which weapons legally, across the entire country," perhaps more quickly than in the past.

(Excerpt) Read more at dw.de ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; guns; register
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To: trebb

Don’t they have lakes there???


41 posted on 11/23/2012 9:02:25 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church shows up at your funeral)
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To: Ditter
....now our country has elected obama twice and I am despondent.

Yup. My parents and grandparents had to choose between Stalin's and Hitler's concentration camps (dad's family went to Hitler's). Now we have Wilson/FDR in BO and I'm sure he's itching for more domestic concentration camps, just like those two had. My parents escaped Communism/Fascism once only to be back here again.

As far as the EU and today's situation, my brother has spent a lot of time in Germany now -- he's in the military. From the comments you overhear on the trains and such, the people are not behind this EU one-world government thing, but it's rammed on them anyway. After all, they're carrying all the looters and moochers like Greece, etc.

42 posted on 11/23/2012 9:05:15 AM PST by Borax Queen
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Your understanding is correct, but I highly doubt the marxists currently have that much arrogance to attempt such a move. I could be mistaken.

In a few years I have a bad feeling that the left will no longer fear any reprisals after attempting something such as this.

43 posted on 11/23/2012 9:06:44 AM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: SkyDancer
Don’t they have lakes there???

LOL - I would imagine that the fine for polluting a lake, by accidentally losing them in the deeps, might be even higher than being caught with the gun...I've heard of people here being fined after an accident that landed their vehicle in the water due to the pollution from the gas and oil leaking into the environment..

44 posted on 11/23/2012 9:14:13 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: Pox
In a few years I have a bad feeling that the left will no longer fear any reprisals after attempting something such as this.

After seeing what the left has gotten away with, nothing would surprise me anymore, but they really need to start fearing our wrath.

45 posted on 11/23/2012 9:16:39 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: KeyLargo
founding fathers Pictures, Images and Photos Come and taketh them.
46 posted on 11/23/2012 9:16:49 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: trebb

As my dad says “there’s no such thing as an accident. It’s all premeditated carelessness” - but better to pay the fine for “accidentally” loosing your guns when your boat sinks ....


47 posted on 11/23/2012 9:24:21 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church shows up at your funeral)
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To: Ditter
I have always held it against the German people that they were stupid and blind enough to let Hitler rise to power, now our country has elected obama twice and I am despondent.

Following global economic strife, the Germans were faced with the choice between outright Marxism and a flag-waving variant of Socialism. It's not at all surprising that they fell for Hitler's line of B.S.; after all, he was a good public speaker and had even written a book.

48 posted on 11/23/2012 9:24:49 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: tumblindice
I don't see any extra mags, pouches or ammo?
49 posted on 11/23/2012 9:32:02 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo
cause it worked out so well last time... BRILLIANT!!!

P.S. i'm guessing that must be a girl holding that .45

50 posted on 11/23/2012 9:34:23 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: KeyLargo

“The move comes nearly four years after the tragedy of the Winnenden school shooting in Baden-Württemberg state which left 16 people dead, DAPD news agency reported.”

And a centralized national gun registry would have stopped that exactly how?


51 posted on 11/23/2012 9:37:43 AM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: KeyLargo
Thanks to the information, he said; police would be able to check "who owns which weapons legally, across the entire country," perhaps more quickly than in the past.

Frankly, I'd be more interested in "who owns which weapons illegally"!

Regards,
GtG

52 posted on 11/23/2012 9:43:32 AM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
was is los???
53 posted on 11/23/2012 9:48:32 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: KeyLargo

article doesn’t explain why a govt database of legal gun owners suddenly makes everyone so much safer.


54 posted on 11/23/2012 10:10:46 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Travis McGee

That’s 2/3 of those Senators PRESENT.

And who controls the Senate, who controls when the votes are taken???

Hummmmm??


55 posted on 11/23/2012 10:27:31 AM PST by BigOrangeI (The Constitution says "promote the general welfare" NOT provide the general welfare.)
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To: Travis McGee
It would take 2/3 of the Senate to pass this treaty.

The Constitution provides that a majority of the Senate (51 members) constitutes a quorum which is the number of senators that must be present for the Senate to do business. Article 2, section 2 states: "He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur... So now we are down to 34 votes to pass.

Now some good news:
"The U.S. Supreme Court has made it very clear that
1) Treaties do not override the U.S. Constitution.
2) Treaties cannot amend the Constitution. And last,
3) A treaty can be nullified by a statute passed by the U.S. Congress (or by a sovereign State or States if Congress refuses to do so), when the State deems the performance of a treaty is self-destructive. The law of self-preservation overrules the law of obligation in others. When you've read this thoroughly, hopefully, you will never again sit quietly by when someone -- anyone -- claims that treaties supercede the Constitution. Help to dispell this myth."

"This [Supreme] Court has regularly and uniformly recognized the supremacy of the Constitution over a treaty." - Reid v. Covert, October 1956, 354 U.S. 1, at pg 17.

Regards,
GtG

56 posted on 11/23/2012 10:29:04 AM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: KeyLargo

Sure they do! The fellow kneeling on the left is reaching into his neceffary bag for a couple, and the patriot on the right if loading one while he’s got fix more in a bowl of fome fort.
Rock and roll, 1776!


57 posted on 11/23/2012 10:39:50 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Pox

Pox: “I have no doubt our own country will attempt any and every angle to disarm as many citizens as possible through any “backdoor” avenues available to them.”

I agree. District of Columbia v. Heller and McDonald v. Chicago did not eliminate all restrictions on gun ownership. In fact, the majority was very careful to point that out in their decisions. So I think we’ll have many more years of litigation over what kinds of restrictions are still constitutional. In that regard, you can bet the left will do everything possible to limit gun ownership, to include registration, extreme taxes on guns and ammo, bans on certain weapon models, confiscation on trumped up causes, etc. Expect a whole gamut of limitations on the right to bear arms.


58 posted on 11/23/2012 11:04:15 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: KeyLargo
99.9% of gun crimes in Germany are commited by immigrants from the Balkans and south/east thereof (with their smuggled guns)...so, yeah, a register of guns owned by hunters and sport shooters will really help. /facepalm

Just take the virtual tour of this den of crazed killers: http://www.mszu.de/ Scary, huh?

59 posted on 11/23/2012 11:11:32 AM PST by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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To: KeyLargo
“That can’t happen here,” you say, “The Supreme Court’s 2010 ruling in District of Columbia vs. Heller denies the feds, the states and local authorities the power to restrict my ‘right to bear arms.’”

If you believe so, you are dead wrong.

Wrong answer. They're dead wrong.

60 posted on 11/23/2012 11:18:06 AM PST by kt56 (Molon Labe)
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