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Benghazi-Gate Enters New Phase: The Cover Up of the Cover Up (Twitter Title )
Breitbart News ^ | 23 Nov 2012, 8:43 AM PDT | John Nolte

Posted on 11/23/2012 9:37:03 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Sources: Intel Community Didn't Rule Out Terrorism in Rice Talking Points

It now looks as though the White House's excuse for the pre-election Libya cover-up is itself a cover up. Last week we were told by the Administration (and the compliant media) that during her now-infamous round robin of five Sunday news shows, U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice was only telling us what she was told by the intelligence community. We were also told that references to al-Qaeda were edited out of the talking points in order to avoid tipping off the attackers that we were on to them. According to a number of CBS News' sources, this simply isn't true.

As recently as yesterday, though, Rice doubled down on this defense:

"I relied soley and squarely on the information provided to me by the intelligence community. I made clear that the information was preliminary and that our investigations would give us the definitive answers."

At first glance, Rice's comments might not appear to move the ball, but they do tell us that the Administration has found its defense and intends to stick to it -- that defense being that Rice was only parroting the false information she was given. But now, thanks to some good reporting from CBS News, we know things weren't that simple.

Let's back up just a little bit…

Last week, former CIA Chief Davis Petraeus testified that within a day he knew the assault on our consulate in Benghazi was a premeditated terrorist attack committed by a Libyan militia with ties to al-Qaeda. As a result, Petraeus authorized the release of this information to the public in talking points to be given to the White House and to lawmakers.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: benghazi; benghazicoverup; benghazigate; obama; rice; susanrice
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1 posted on 11/23/2012 9:37:08 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: TigersEye; onyx; Marine_Uncle; RummyChick; justa-hairyape; SunkenCiv; blam; Grampa Dave; ...

fyi


2 posted on 11/23/2012 9:39:02 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The focus on what Rice did or didn't say, and who told her to/not to, and why a coupla old white men are picking on this nice black lesbian lady, seems conveniently to distract from the question of what happened while the attack was going on.

Almost like it was planned that way.

3 posted on 11/23/2012 9:48:21 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

I see. They were using diversionary tactics so as not to TIP OFF THE TERRORISTS that we were on to them. I take back everything I ever said about THE FOREIGNER. With this kind of INSIGHT I know he will make a quality commander in chief. ANDY WHERE’S MY BULLET.


4 posted on 11/23/2012 10:02:46 AM PST by spawn44 (moo)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Rice is a lesbo, too? LOL.


6 posted on 11/23/2012 10:07:52 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This cover up, which the media has happily become a co-conspirator in, was only about winning Obama a second term.

And now the cover up of the cover up is in full swing.


7 posted on 11/23/2012 10:09:55 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
So it looks like the MATTER OF 4 DEAD men in Benghazi is now off the table, of no consequence, while we die on this stupid hill of who changed the documents.

To the families of those men, I humbly & sorrowfully apologize for our nation of fools and our government of self absorbed pigs who's only concern is preseving their status quo.

To you the parents of LIVE young men and women serving under this REGIME, I humbly and sorrowfully apologize for that, and advice you to advice them to GET OUT ASAP. THEY WILL BE sent into harms way & LEFT FOR DEAD if need be for the sake of politics.

And lastly to you parents, the MEDIA does not care either. They only care when it can be used to defeat a Republican, nothing more. When or if you are ever given the opportunity to speak with the media, quit mincing words, tell them exactly what you think of them and this lying president. They killed your child, what more do you have to lose, speak out.

It wasn't always this way, and I am disgusted.

8 posted on 11/23/2012 10:11:19 AM PST by annieokie
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
There is one possibility that fits the narrative rather well. The attackers wore Al Qeada emblems on their clothes, (reported by a Libyan working in the mission), and they supposedly claimed responsibility for the attack, but what if the attackers were not Al Qeada and were just disguising themselves as Al Qeada ? That could explain why the initial assessment was held back, because they later discovered that Al Qeada was not really responsible ? And there were military regulars involved due to the precise mortar firings on the CIA annex. And Obama/Hillary/NATO have been helping Al Qeada and Muslim Brotherhood insurgents in Syria with funds and possible weapons. So they would not want to be forced to falsely claim Al Qeada attacked them in Libya.

In a nut shell, whoever attacked Benghazi was diabolically brilliant. Much smarter then the clowns running this country right now. They got off scot-free with killing four Americans and shutting down the arms pipeline into Syria.

9 posted on 11/23/2012 10:11:42 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
We still don't know why POTUS did not give the cross-border authorization to save his own Ambassador.
10 posted on 11/23/2012 10:11:56 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Excerpt from tthe article....

But here's where the plot thickens.

DNI spokesman Shawn Turner told CBS News, "The intelligence community assessed from the very beginning that what happened in Benghazi was a terrorist attack." He added that this classified information was shared with the White House. CBS News then quite correctly concludes that as a member of Obama's cabinet, Susan Rice would would've known this. All cabinet members are given classified briefings.

The bottom line, then, is that during her Sunday show appearances, Rice knew the information she was spreading was false.

11 posted on 11/23/2012 10:13:26 AM PST by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

**WHO in the hell gave the damn order to NOT rescue our men in Benghazi?**


12 posted on 11/23/2012 10:20:04 AM PST by Gator113 (**WHO in the hell gave the damn order to NOT rescue our men in Benghazi?**)
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To: onyx
According to Wikipedia, she's married, albeit to a Canadian.

The way she waddles like a wrestler, though, I ain't buying it.

13 posted on 11/23/2012 10:26:12 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Look! Squirrel! (pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!)


14 posted on 11/23/2012 10:28:10 AM PST by WVKayaker ("Mitt Romney couldn't keep up with lies and spin of Barack Obama" - Sarah Palin 10/24)
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To: newfreep
And I was looking at an article at Hot Air...dated Nov 20....:

CBS: “Office of the DNI” cut al-Qaeda and terrorism references from Benghazi talking points

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Nov 20, 2012 11:01 AM by Ed Morrissey

Meet James Clapper — the latest fall guy for the White House on Benghazi. After last week’s hearings in Congress showed that the talking points from the CIA had been changed to eliminate the mention of terrorism, Washington erupted into a whodunit. CBS reports today that the culprit has been found … sort of: ...

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Video(CBS) at the link

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CBS News has learned that the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (DNI) cut specific references to “al Qaeda” and “terrorism” from the unclassified talking points given to Ambassador Susan Rice on the Benghazi consulate attack – with the agreement of the CIA and FBI. The White House or State Department did not make those changes. …

However, an intelligence source tells CBS News correspondent Margaret Brennan the links to al Qaeda were deemed too “tenuous” to make public, because there was not strong confidence in the person providing the intelligence. CIA Director David Petraeus, however, told Congress he agreed to release the information — the reference to al Qaeda — in an early draft of the talking points, which were also distributed to select lawmakers.

“The intelligence community assessed from the very beginning that what happened in Benghazi was a terrorist attack.” DNI spokesman Shawn Turner tells CBS News. That information was shared at a classified level — which Rice, as a member of President Obama’s cabinet, would have been privy to. …

The head of the DNI is James Clapper, an Obama appointee. He ultimately did review the points, before they were given to Ambassador Rice and members of the House intelligence committee on Sept. 14. They were compiled the day before.

Note that this report doesn’t pin the blame on Clapper himself.  It instead locates the change in Clapper’s “office,” allowing for a rather non-specific assignment that makes almost no sense at all.  Are we to believe that a Clapper aide overruled David Petraeus’ assessment of Benghazi?  If so, on what basis?

The report also states that the reason for the redaction was because the link to AQ was “too tenuous.”  However, the presence of mortars and RPGs, as well as coordinated fire and attack strategies in play, made it clear “almost immediately” to Petraeus and others in the CIA that this was much more than a spontaneous demonstration run amok.  That made the YouTube video explanation rather “tenuous” too, no?  And yet that stayed in the talking points while terrorism got excised.

This explanation seems even more tenuous than the previous stories coming from the White House.  If Petraeus knew “almost immediately” that this was an act of deliberate terrorism and included that in his talking points, then we need an explanation of who in the “office of the DNI” removed that explanation, and why — more than just the “too tenuous” excuse here that turned out to be totally wrong — and whether they got pressured to do so.

15 posted on 11/23/2012 10:28:19 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Trailerpark Badass

OKay...LOL.


16 posted on 11/23/2012 10:29:16 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: annieokie; onyx
So it looks like the MATTER OF 4 DEAD men in Benghazi is now off the table, of no consequence, while we die on this stupid hill of who changed the documents.

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OK I WILL TAKE A SWING AT THAT!

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IT IS NOT THAT IS OF NO CONSEQUENCE.....

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BUT WHAT WE ARE ESTABLISHING IS THE OVER ALL MOTIVE OF THE PRESIDENT.....IN EVERY LITTLE DETAIL

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17 posted on 11/23/2012 11:01:56 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Where are the Treason and Murder charges?
Who has the authority to tell British assets to "stand down" also?
Who decided to abandon 30 Americans resulting in the death of 4?
18 posted on 11/23/2012 11:08:07 AM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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TO ME:

IT SEEMs .....that it is:

DO NOT ALLOW the WORD AL QUEDA TO APPEAR


19 posted on 11/23/2012 11:09:25 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: BerryDingle

See #17....


20 posted on 11/23/2012 11:12:04 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Gator113

See #17.


21 posted on 11/23/2012 11:13:33 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; MestaMachine
MM: Benghazi coverup ping

Just for the record: The five Susan Rice statements:

ABC’s “This Week” - Sept 16, 2012:

JAKE TAPPER: So, first of all, what is the latest you can tell us on who these attackers were at the embassy or at the consulate in Benghazi? We’re hearing that the Libyans have arrested people. They’re saying that some people involved were from outside the country, that there might have even been Al Qaida ties. What’s the latest information?

MS. RICE: Well, Jake, first of all, it’s important to know that there’s an FBI investigation that has begun and will take some time to be completed. That will tell us with certainty what transpired.

But our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present, is that, in fact, what this began as, it was a spontaneous — not a premeditated — response to what had transpired in Cairo. In Cairo, as you know, a few hours earlier, there was a violent protest that was undertaken in reaction to this very offensive video that was disseminated.

We believe that folks in Benghazi, a small number of people came to the embassy to — or to the consulate, rather, to replicate the sort of challenge that was posed in Cairo. And then as that unfolded, it seems to have been hijacked, let us say, by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons, weapons that as you know in — in the wake of the revolution in Libya are — are quite common and accessible. And it then evolved from there.

CBS’s “Face the Nation” - Sept 16, 2012

MS. RICE: So we’ll want to see the results of that [FBI] investigation to draw any definitive conclusions. But based on the best information we have to date, what our assessment is as of the present is in fact what began spontaneously in Benghazi as a reaction to what had transpired some hours earlier in Cairo where, of course, as you know, there was a violent protest outside of our embassy– –sparked by this hateful video.

But soon after that spontaneous protest began outside of our consulate in Benghazi, we believe that it looks like extremist elements, individuals, joined in that– in that effort with heavy weapons of the sort that are, unfortunately, readily now available in Libya post-revolution. And that it spun from there into something much, much more violent.

BOB SCHIEFFER: But you do not agree with him that this was something that had been plotted out several months ago?

MS. RICE: We do not– we do not have information at present that leads us to conclude that this was premeditated or preplanned.

MR. SCHIEFFER: Do you agree or disagree with [the previous guest, the president of Libya’s general national congress] that al Qaeda had some part in this?

MS. RICE: Well, we’ll have to find out that out. I mean I think it’s clear that there were extremist elements that joined in and escalated the violence. Whether they were al Qaeda affiliates, whether they were Libyan-based extremists or al Qaeda itself I think is one of the things we’ll have to determine.

“Fox News Sunday” - Sept 16, 2012

CHRIS WALLACE: Let’s talk about the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi this week that killed four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens. The top Libyan official says that the attack on Tuesday was, quote, his words “preplanned.” Al Qaeda says the operation was revenge for our killing a top Al Qaeda leader. What do we know?

MS. RICE: Well, first of all, Chris, we are obviously investigating this very closely. The FBI has a lead in this investigation. The information, the best information and the best assessment we have today is that in fact this was not a preplanned, premeditated attack. That what happened initially was that it was a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired in Cairo as a consequence of the video. People gathered outside the embassy and then it grew very violent and those with extremist ties joined the fray and came with heavy weapons, which unfortunately are quite common in post-revolutionary Libya and that then spun out of control.

But we don’t see at this point signs this was a coordinated plan, premeditated attack. Obviously, we will wait for the results of the investigation and we don’t want to jump to conclusions before then. But I do think it’s important for the American people to know our best current assessment.

NBC’s “Meet the Press” - Sept 16, 2012

DAVID GREGORY: Well, let’s talk– talk about– well, you talked about this as spontaneous. Can you say definitively that the attacks on– on our consulate in Libya that killed ambassador Stevens and others there security personnel, that was spontaneous, was it a planned attack? Was there a terrorist element to it?

MS. RICE: Well, let us– let me tell you the– the best information we have at present. First of all, there’s an FBI investigation which is ongoing. And we look to that investigation to give us the definitive word as to what transpired. But putting together the best information that we have available to us today our current assessment is that what happened in Benghazi was in fact initially a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired hours before in Cairo, almost a copycat of– of the demonstrations against our facility in Cairo, which were prompted, of course, by the video.

What we think then transpired in Benghazi is that opportunistic extremist elements came to the consulate as this was unfolding. They came with heavy weapons which unfortunately are readily available in post revolutionary Libya. And it escalated into a much more violent episode. Obviously, that’s– that’s our best judgment now. We’ll await the results of the investigation. And the president has been very clear–we’ll work with the Libyan authorities to bring those responsible to justice.

CNN’s “State of the Union” - Sept 16, 2012, 9:00 AM - 10:00 AM

Ms. RICE: I have been to Libya and walked the streets of Benghazi myself. And despite what we saw in that horrific incident where some mob was hijacked ultimately by a handful of extremists, the United States is extremely popular in Libya and the outpouring of sympathy and support for Ambassador Stevens and his colleagues from the government, from people is evidence of that.

The fact is, Candy, that this is a turbulent time. It’s a time of dramatic change. It’s a change that the United States has backed because we understand that when democracy takes root, when human rights and people’s freedom of expression can be manifested, it may lead to turbulence in the short-term, but over the long-term, that is in the interest of the United States.

The mobs we’ve seen on the outside of these embassies are small minority. They’re the ones who have largely lost in these emerging democratic processes, and just as the people of these countries are not going to allow their lives to be hijacked by a dictator, they’re not going to allow an extremist mob to hijack their future and their freedom,. And we’re going to continue to stand with the vast majority of the populations in these countries.

Also, FYI: Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 16 September 2012

22 posted on 11/23/2012 11:14:32 AM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; All

Fine. Rice is not responsible, but obozo IS - he said it himself - the buck stops at him, AND, GO AFTER HIM, not Rice!

Please bombard your Republican congressmen to make obozo testify -
why lied for 2 weeks that it is ‘spontaneous protest resulting from the “video”’ ????
WHY???? considering intelligence report said it was terrorist act right at the beginning!
Even if obozo and gang were really afraid to reveal the truth, a simple ‘we don’t know who is responsible yet, will tell you when we find out for sure.’ will suffice!!!

Congress cannot let the lying murderers get away with the lies and the murders!


23 posted on 11/23/2012 11:14:55 AM PST by chrisnj
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To: Gator113; BerryDingle

And see #19 also.


24 posted on 11/23/2012 11:16:13 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: PieterCasparzen

See #17 and #19.


25 posted on 11/23/2012 11:18:43 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: chrisnj

My Congressman is Dana Rohrbacher.....he is doing fine on this topic.


26 posted on 11/23/2012 11:21:34 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: thouworm; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Append to post 22: I inadvertently omitted the beginning of the transcript for "State of the Union," Candy Crowley.

CROWLEY: There is a "New York Times" story this morning that suggests that the administration thinks this is a foreshadowing of a fall that will see sustained instability. Does the administration expect to see these sorts of protests outside U.S. embassies and elsewhere throughout the fall?

MS. RICE: Well, Candy, first of all, let's recall what has happened in the last several days. There was a hateful video that was disseminated on the internet. It had nothing to do with the United States government and it's one that we find disgusting and reprehensible. It's been offensive to many, many people around the world.

That sparked violence in various parts of the world, including violence directed against western facilities including our embassies and consulates. That violence is absolutely unacceptable, it's not a response that one can ever condone when it comes to such a video. And we have been working very closely and, indeed, effectively with the governments in the region and around the world to secure our personnel, secure our embassy, condemn the violent response to this video.

And, frankly, we've seen these sorts of incidents in the past. We've seen violent responses to "Satanic Verses." We've seen violent responses to the cartoons depicting the Prophet Mohammed in an evil way. So this is something we've seen in the past, and we expect that it's possible that these kinds of things could percolate into the future. What we're focused on is securing our personnel, securing our facilities.

CROWLEY: Do you at this moment feel that U.S. embassies abroad are secure?

MS. RICE: We are doing our utmost to secure our facilities and our personnel and in various vulnerable places. We have demanded and we are receiving the cooperation of host governments. Host governments have also put out very strong messages in Libya, in Egypt, in Yemen and Tunisia condemning violence, saying that it's a completely unacceptable response to such a video. And we feel that we are now in a position doing the maximum that we can to protect our people.

CROWLEY: Why would one not look at what is going on in the Middle East now and say that the president's outreach to Muslims, which began at the beginning of his administration in Cairo and elsewhere has not worked because, yes, this video sparked it, but there is an underlying anti-Americanism that is very evident on the streets. So Why not look at it and think that this is this outreach has failed?

MS. RICE: For the same reason, Candy, when you look back at history and we had the horrible experience of our facilities and our personnel being attacked Beirut in 1981, we had the attack on Khobar Towers in the 1990s. We had an attack on our embassy in Yemen in 2008. There have been such attacks. There have been expressions of hostility towards the west.

CROWLEY: But this was sort of a reset, was it not? It was supposed to be a reset of U.S.-Muslim relations?

27 posted on 11/23/2012 11:41:40 AM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I agree. Proving motive is critical, but for this case to survive, it needs to be brought to critical mass, competently, aggressively and very quickly. The longer it takes, the longer it will take.... and other events will place this entire tragedy on the back shelf.


28 posted on 11/23/2012 11:54:01 AM PST by Gator113 (**WHO in the hell gave the damn order to NOT rescue our men in Benghazi?**)
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To: Gator113
Was looking for a thread that showed what Obama was saying g on the campaign trail just before the election day....

Turned up some other threads of interest ...some may have missed:

Benghazi. A view from Turkey (the Iskanderun port & Ali Sait Akin)

AND:

The red flags in Obama’s foreign policy

29 posted on 11/23/2012 12:03:31 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Just a couple of thoughts:

1)Has POTUS commented personally and officially on the investigation? That's instructive, it leads me to believe the complete truth is still to be discovered. Obama doesn't want to have to reconcile what he says NOW with the truth, which is yet to come out...

2) I note that the UN has also been tight-lipped. You would think that murder of a fellow ambassador and the violation of a consolate's sovereign territory would spark some sort of response from that international community.

30 posted on 11/23/2012 12:32:06 PM PST by ZOOKER ( Exploring the fine line between cynicism and outright depression)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Three Facts

Fact One:

1) Only the POTUS can authorize a CBA (cross border authority) command for a rescue mission in a foreign nation.

Plus Fact Two:

2) No rescue mission was attempted.

Equals Fact Three:

3) 0bama turned his back on 41 State Dept. and CIA employees refusing to issue a CBA command and went to bed so he could go to Las Vegas the next day.

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Something to e-mail to every talking head, every Senator and every House rep.

31 posted on 11/23/2012 12:33:15 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
RE: the weapons/Turkey/Steven's last appt, Turkish Consul General Ali Sait Akin:

For additional info on this, see also threads and articles with keyword "clarelopez"

Notice how Rice used the following phrase or its equivalent in 4 out of 5 of the Sunday appearances (posts 22 & 27)

RICE: "They came with heavy weapons which unfortunately are readily available in post revolutionary Libya."

The only exception was her interview with CNN (designed especially, IMO, for the international audience)

32 posted on 11/23/2012 12:36:14 PM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: All
Pakistanis didn't know about any "video" or any "insults" until 0blablah and Hillbilly broadcast this...

Obama and Hillary Apologize for Free Speech on Pakistani TV (taxpayer-funded ads) Sept. 20, 2012

Which immediately resulted in this...

Pakistan: 17 killed in anti-Islam film protests Sept. 21, 2012

0bama then went to the UN and re-inflamed the Muslim world once again over the manufactured offense "Innocence of Muslims."

U.S. President Speaks to U.N. About YouTube Video 14 days after the attack!

Those apologies validated their anger.

33 posted on 11/23/2012 12:39:03 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

In the second debate Obama reminded everyone he had called it an “act of terror” on the second day. So why did he keep saying “It’s the video?”


34 posted on 11/23/2012 12:39:03 PM PST by jacob allen
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To: thouworm

As recently as yesterday, though, Rice doubled down on this defense: “I relied soley and squarely on the information provided to me by the intelligence community.

If she relied solely on info from the intel community - then she’s saying the intel community told her it was because of some obscure video because that was said in her statements.

The only problem with that is “the intel community” states they never said such a thing - - - soooo we’re right back to the White Hut having edited her story!!!


35 posted on 11/23/2012 12:44:01 PM PST by techrules2002
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks Ernest.

As Biden would say, “this is a big fing deal”. I believe this entire mess is far more sinister than what most people think or are willing to consider.

This may be bigger than what our system can handle. I wonder if we will ever see justice and I wonder what that justice will look like.


36 posted on 11/23/2012 12:51:29 PM PST by Gator113 (**WHO in the hell gave the damn order to NOT rescue our men in Benghazi?**)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It’s over. It’s forgotten. The public has no spare mental capacity to think about what happened in Benghazi. All the brain cells are taken up with the latest on Justin Bieber, Selena Gomez, Kim Kardashian and 2 1 / 2 men.

May as well just drop it. The public doesn’t give a damn, and the current thugs in the white house will never admit to what they did.


37 posted on 11/23/2012 1:05:35 PM PST by I want the USA back
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
BUT WHAT WE ARE ESTABLISHING IS THE OVER ALL MOTIVE OF THE PRESIDENT.....IN EVERY LITTLE DETAIL""""""......

I do hope this was not meant to be a joke, but it is anyway.

The motive of the President was to be reelected (although that as we now know was a given, due to fraud). His motive, he is pure EVIL and a liar.

As a woman, I can walk and chew gum at the same time. For the issue of who changed what, when and where needs to be known, after they find out, then WHAT?

In the meantime...........get on with the investigation of who GAVE THE ORDER TO "STAND DOWN" and not send help. They need to throw as much at bozo ALL AT ONE TIME, then and only then will you see their wheels grinding and begin to make some big mistakes in their answers. Not one baby step at a time. Bombard him.

This REGIME can parse words ALL DAY LONG AND INTO THE NIGHT 24/7, it is what they do for a passtime. No, this Benghazi issue is going to die on this "WHO CHANGED THE DOCUMENTS" hill, and by design.

38 posted on 11/23/2012 1:10:15 PM PST by annieokie
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To: techrules2002
soooo we’re right back to the White Hut having edited her story

Yep. Just about anyway you look at it.

This article explains the Benghazi talking-points shell game better than most.

"Clapper is the president’s man. For all practical purposes, he is White House staff, as much as the national security adviser. He attends Oval Office meetings and discerns the wishes of the president and senior staff. "

Clapper, as head of DNI, is WH unofficially, and officially, DNI intel.

Going down memory lane, Clapper also said this in in February, 2011:

When mass demonstrations were bringing down Mubarak's presidency in Egypt, Clapper told a House Intelligence Committee hearing that:

"The term 'Muslim Brotherhood'...is an umbrella term for a variety of movements, in the case of Egypt, a very heterogeneous group, largely secular, which has eschewed violence and has decried Al Qaeda as a perversion of Islam," ... "They have pursued social ends, a betterment of the political order in Egypt, et cetera.....In other countries, there are also chapters or franchises of the Muslim Brotherhood, but there is no overarching agenda, particularly in pursuit of violence, at least internationally."

Source

39 posted on 11/23/2012 1:10:48 PM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Sure looks like Benghazi Gate is not going to go away.
With so many Republican Senators and House of Representatives now in on the various hearings, one could hope the administration will eventually run out of deceit tactics and have to own up to the screw ups, at various levels.
40 posted on 11/23/2012 1:54:48 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

(sigh) I think I’ll go join the rest of America on Facebook and post what I’m cooking for supper.


41 posted on 11/23/2012 2:08:17 PM PST by Nita Nupress
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To: annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; Nachum; onyx; ...

What happened to Ty Woods’ father? Where is Sean Smith’s mother? Where is Stevens’ family? Doherty’s family? Where are the SEALs? Why has the peripheral world gone deathly silent?
Ping.


42 posted on 11/23/2012 2:52:39 PM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: MestaMachine
I think they realize that when Obama won (stole the election)...they all lost any hope of bringing the truth about Benghazi into the light by traditional/legal means.

It doesn't mean that they have given up...just that any hope they have now depends on what can be done...er, in other venues.

43 posted on 11/23/2012 3:09:54 PM PST by RoosterRedux (He will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Someone needs to hire mercenaries to go over to Benghazi to shoot up a certain neighborhood there. It would be front and center then.


44 posted on 11/23/2012 3:11:33 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Because of the various elements involved in the attack, the term extremist was meant to capture the range of participants."

They wanted to imply Republicans were involved?

Extremist is a word always used to describe anybody that believes in a literal interpretation of the Constitution.

45 posted on 11/23/2012 3:27:57 PM PST by glorgau
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To: MestaMachine
What happened to Ty Woods’ father? Where is Sean Smith’s mother? Where is Stevens’ family? Doherty’s family? Where are the SEALs? Why has the peripheral world gone deathly silent?

We are at war with Eurasia. We have always been at war with Eurasia.

46 posted on 11/23/2012 3:34:49 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: jacob allen

He didn’t call it an act of terror. He referred to terrorism in general, but didn’t specify that Benghazi was an act of terror.


47 posted on 11/23/2012 4:39:07 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Gator113
ding ... definitely far more sinister. Think of the infiltration alone, and the information currently held by the infiltrators. Next think of the ways the infiltrators are distributing the information and to whom. wonder if we will ever see justice Think reeducation, after years of marxists educating our young. Think of their options. They have been patient, and America is where America is because of their patience. Best Guess, if the enemies of Freedom are not completely in control, the enemies will be in a short period of time. Thank you. Your post set off a ding.
48 posted on 11/24/2012 5:25:24 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I'm pretty sure that if you plant an Al Quaeda flag during a terrorist attack, you don't care if you're tipping America off about your terrorist ties and affiliations.

That's like saying we didn't mention Elton John's sequin covered glasses because we didn't want to tip him off that we knew he was gay.

49 posted on 11/24/2012 5:32:03 AM PST by Sirius Lee (RE SP - Republicans, from Mitt Romney ..to Karl Rove... are said to be concerned she will win.")
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To: Nita Nupress

LOL!


50 posted on 11/24/2012 8:36:12 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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