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1 posted on 11/23/2012 9:37:08 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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2 posted on 11/23/2012 9:39:02 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The focus on what Rice did or didn't say, and who told her to/not to, and why a coupla old white men are picking on this nice black lesbian lady, seems conveniently to distract from the question of what happened while the attack was going on.

Almost like it was planned that way.

3 posted on 11/23/2012 9:48:21 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
So it looks like the MATTER OF 4 DEAD men in Benghazi is now off the table, of no consequence, while we die on this stupid hill of who changed the documents.

To the families of those men, I humbly & sorrowfully apologize for our nation of fools and our government of self absorbed pigs who's only concern is preseving their status quo.

To you the parents of LIVE young men and women serving under this REGIME, I humbly and sorrowfully apologize for that, and advice you to advice them to GET OUT ASAP. THEY WILL BE sent into harms way & LEFT FOR DEAD if need be for the sake of politics.

And lastly to you parents, the MEDIA does not care either. They only care when it can be used to defeat a Republican, nothing more. When or if you are ever given the opportunity to speak with the media, quit mincing words, tell them exactly what you think of them and this lying president. They killed your child, what more do you have to lose, speak out.

It wasn't always this way, and I am disgusted.

8 posted on 11/23/2012 10:11:19 AM PST by annieokie
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
We still don't know why POTUS did not give the cross-border authorization to save his own Ambassador.
10 posted on 11/23/2012 10:11:56 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Excerpt from tthe article....

But here's where the plot thickens.

DNI spokesman Shawn Turner told CBS News, "The intelligence community assessed from the very beginning that what happened in Benghazi was a terrorist attack." He added that this classified information was shared with the White House. CBS News then quite correctly concludes that as a member of Obama's cabinet, Susan Rice would would've known this. All cabinet members are given classified briefings.

The bottom line, then, is that during her Sunday show appearances, Rice knew the information she was spreading was false.

11 posted on 11/23/2012 10:13:26 AM PST by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

**WHO in the hell gave the damn order to NOT rescue our men in Benghazi?**

12 posted on 11/23/2012 10:20:04 AM PST by Gator113 (**WHO in the hell gave the damn order to NOT rescue our men in Benghazi?**)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Look! Squirrel! (pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!)

14 posted on 11/23/2012 10:28:10 AM PST by WVKayaker ("Mitt Romney couldn't keep up with lies and spin of Barack Obama" - Sarah Palin 10/24)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Where are the Treason and Murder charges?
Who has the authority to tell British assets to "stand down" also?
Who decided to abandon 30 Americans resulting in the death of 4?
18 posted on 11/23/2012 11:08:07 AM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; MestaMachine
MM: Benghazi coverup ping

Just for the record: The five Susan Rice statements:

ABC’s “This Week” - Sept 16, 2012:

JAKE TAPPER: So, first of all, what is the latest you can tell us on who these attackers were at the embassy or at the consulate in Benghazi? We’re hearing that the Libyans have arrested people. They’re saying that some people involved were from outside the country, that there might have even been Al Qaida ties. What’s the latest information?

MS. RICE: Well, Jake, first of all, it’s important to know that there’s an FBI investigation that has begun and will take some time to be completed. That will tell us with certainty what transpired.

But our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present, is that, in fact, what this began as, it was a spontaneous — not a premeditated — response to what had transpired in Cairo. In Cairo, as you know, a few hours earlier, there was a violent protest that was undertaken in reaction to this very offensive video that was disseminated.

We believe that folks in Benghazi, a small number of people came to the embassy to — or to the consulate, rather, to replicate the sort of challenge that was posed in Cairo. And then as that unfolded, it seems to have been hijacked, let us say, by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons, weapons that as you know in — in the wake of the revolution in Libya are — are quite common and accessible. And it then evolved from there.

CBS’s “Face the Nation” - Sept 16, 2012

MS. RICE: So we’ll want to see the results of that [FBI] investigation to draw any definitive conclusions. But based on the best information we have to date, what our assessment is as of the present is in fact what began spontaneously in Benghazi as a reaction to what had transpired some hours earlier in Cairo where, of course, as you know, there was a violent protest outside of our embassy– –sparked by this hateful video.

But soon after that spontaneous protest began outside of our consulate in Benghazi, we believe that it looks like extremist elements, individuals, joined in that– in that effort with heavy weapons of the sort that are, unfortunately, readily now available in Libya post-revolution. And that it spun from there into something much, much more violent.

BOB SCHIEFFER: But you do not agree with him that this was something that had been plotted out several months ago?

MS. RICE: We do not– we do not have information at present that leads us to conclude that this was premeditated or preplanned.

MR. SCHIEFFER: Do you agree or disagree with [the previous guest, the president of Libya’s general national congress] that al Qaeda had some part in this?

MS. RICE: Well, we’ll have to find out that out. I mean I think it’s clear that there were extremist elements that joined in and escalated the violence. Whether they were al Qaeda affiliates, whether they were Libyan-based extremists or al Qaeda itself I think is one of the things we’ll have to determine.

“Fox News Sunday” - Sept 16, 2012

CHRIS WALLACE: Let’s talk about the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi this week that killed four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens. The top Libyan official says that the attack on Tuesday was, quote, his words “preplanned.” Al Qaeda says the operation was revenge for our killing a top Al Qaeda leader. What do we know?

MS. RICE: Well, first of all, Chris, we are obviously investigating this very closely. The FBI has a lead in this investigation. The information, the best information and the best assessment we have today is that in fact this was not a preplanned, premeditated attack. That what happened initially was that it was a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired in Cairo as a consequence of the video. People gathered outside the embassy and then it grew very violent and those with extremist ties joined the fray and came with heavy weapons, which unfortunately are quite common in post-revolutionary Libya and that then spun out of control.

But we don’t see at this point signs this was a coordinated plan, premeditated attack. Obviously, we will wait for the results of the investigation and we don’t want to jump to conclusions before then. But I do think it’s important for the American people to know our best current assessment.

NBC’s “Meet the Press” - Sept 16, 2012

DAVID GREGORY: Well, let’s talk– talk about– well, you talked about this as spontaneous. Can you say definitively that the attacks on– on our consulate in Libya that killed ambassador Stevens and others there security personnel, that was spontaneous, was it a planned attack? Was there a terrorist element to it?

MS. RICE: Well, let us– let me tell you the– the best information we have at present. First of all, there’s an FBI investigation which is ongoing. And we look to that investigation to give us the definitive word as to what transpired. But putting together the best information that we have available to us today our current assessment is that what happened in Benghazi was in fact initially a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired hours before in Cairo, almost a copycat of– of the demonstrations against our facility in Cairo, which were prompted, of course, by the video.

What we think then transpired in Benghazi is that opportunistic extremist elements came to the consulate as this was unfolding. They came with heavy weapons which unfortunately are readily available in post revolutionary Libya. And it escalated into a much more violent episode. Obviously, that’s– that’s our best judgment now. We’ll await the results of the investigation. And the president has been very clear–we’ll work with the Libyan authorities to bring those responsible to justice.

CNN’s “State of the Union” - Sept 16, 2012, 9:00 AM - 10:00 AM

Ms. RICE: I have been to Libya and walked the streets of Benghazi myself. And despite what we saw in that horrific incident where some mob was hijacked ultimately by a handful of extremists, the United States is extremely popular in Libya and the outpouring of sympathy and support for Ambassador Stevens and his colleagues from the government, from people is evidence of that.

The fact is, Candy, that this is a turbulent time. It’s a time of dramatic change. It’s a change that the United States has backed because we understand that when democracy takes root, when human rights and people’s freedom of expression can be manifested, it may lead to turbulence in the short-term, but over the long-term, that is in the interest of the United States.

The mobs we’ve seen on the outside of these embassies are small minority. They’re the ones who have largely lost in these emerging democratic processes, and just as the people of these countries are not going to allow their lives to be hijacked by a dictator, they’re not going to allow an extremist mob to hijack their future and their freedom,. And we’re going to continue to stand with the vast majority of the populations in these countries.

Also, FYI: Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 16 September 2012

22 posted on 11/23/2012 11:14:32 AM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; All

Fine. Rice is not responsible, but obozo IS - he said it himself - the buck stops at him, AND, GO AFTER HIM, not Rice!

Please bombard your Republican congressmen to make obozo testify -
why lied for 2 weeks that it is ‘spontaneous protest resulting from the “video”’ ????
WHY???? considering intelligence report said it was terrorist act right at the beginning!
Even if obozo and gang were really afraid to reveal the truth, a simple ‘we don’t know who is responsible yet, will tell you when we find out for sure.’ will suffice!!!

Congress cannot let the lying murderers get away with the lies and the murders!

23 posted on 11/23/2012 11:14:55 AM PST by chrisnj
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Just a couple of thoughts:

1)Has POTUS commented personally and officially on the investigation? That's instructive, it leads me to believe the complete truth is still to be discovered. Obama doesn't want to have to reconcile what he says NOW with the truth, which is yet to come out...

2) I note that the UN has also been tight-lipped. You would think that murder of a fellow ambassador and the violation of a consolate's sovereign territory would spark some sort of response from that international community.

30 posted on 11/23/2012 12:32:06 PM PST by ZOOKER ( Exploring the fine line between cynicism and outright depression)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Three Facts

Fact One:

1) Only the POTUS can authorize a CBA (cross border authority) command for a rescue mission in a foreign nation.

Plus Fact Two:

2) No rescue mission was attempted.

Equals Fact Three:

3) 0bama turned his back on 41 State Dept. and CIA employees refusing to issue a CBA command and went to bed so he could go to Las Vegas the next day.


Something to e-mail to every talking head, every Senator and every House rep.

31 posted on 11/23/2012 12:33:15 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

In the second debate Obama reminded everyone he had called it an “act of terror” on the second day. So why did he keep saying “It’s the video?”

34 posted on 11/23/2012 12:39:03 PM PST by jacob allen
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It’s over. It’s forgotten. The public has no spare mental capacity to think about what happened in Benghazi. All the brain cells are taken up with the latest on Justin Bieber, Selena Gomez, Kim Kardashian and 2 1 / 2 men.

May as well just drop it. The public doesn’t give a damn, and the current thugs in the white house will never admit to what they did.

37 posted on 11/23/2012 1:05:35 PM PST by I want the USA back
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

(sigh) I think I’ll go join the rest of America on Facebook and post what I’m cooking for supper.

41 posted on 11/23/2012 2:08:17 PM PST by Nita Nupress
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Someone needs to hire mercenaries to go over to Benghazi to shoot up a certain neighborhood there. It would be front and center then.

44 posted on 11/23/2012 3:11:33 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Because of the various elements involved in the attack, the term extremist was meant to capture the range of participants."

They wanted to imply Republicans were involved?

Extremist is a word always used to describe anybody that believes in a literal interpretation of the Constitution.

45 posted on 11/23/2012 3:27:57 PM PST by glorgau
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I'm pretty sure that if you plant an Al Quaeda flag during a terrorist attack, you don't care if you're tipping America off about your terrorist ties and affiliations.

That's like saying we didn't mention Elton John's sequin covered glasses because we didn't want to tip him off that we knew he was gay.

49 posted on 11/24/2012 5:32:03 AM PST by Sirius Lee (RE SP - Republicans, from Mitt Romney Karl Rove... are said to be concerned she will win.")
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