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Do we really need another Lindsay Graham?
1 posted on 11/23/2012 9:50:08 AM PST by paul544
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In other words, it’s okay to play the role of tax collector for ‘Rat Profligate Spending.


2 posted on 11/23/2012 9:54:39 AM PST by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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Chambliss swerved to the left long before the DemocRATS’ held the last presidential “election”.


3 posted on 11/23/2012 9:55:44 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Criminal defense lawyers won't have the Twinkie to kick around anymore.)
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Says he cares more about the country than the pledge. B.S. on both fronts. GA voters will be smart to get rid of him in the 2014 primary.


4 posted on 11/23/2012 9:58:51 AM PST by twister881
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Chambliss is right : Solving the country’s looming fiscal crisis is very important.

So why does he want to make it worse by raising taxes?

I think he has been having too many drinks with his demorat pals.

If he wants to solve the crisis, fight Obamacare, Fight raising taxes, propose spending cuts, straighten out the EPA close the Department of Energy and Dept.Education close about half the government agencies in DC.—Ground Air Force One and Michelle’s plane.Stop all Foreign aid.


5 posted on 11/23/2012 10:04:41 AM PST by Venturer
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One more reason not to believe anything a politician promises, ever. Their word is meaningless; they are all liars, perverts, thieves and addicts.
6 posted on 11/23/2012 10:05:13 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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If government employee/contractor/vendor/welfare spending is not cut (welfare is almost equal to the entire deficit), then tax policy changes will not help anything.

If the changes result in less revenue, the deficit grows faster.

If the changes result in more revenue, it’s just spent anyway.

Back during Reagan’s terms, the relative size of government debt to Gross Domestict Product was about 40%. Now it’s over 100%. The prosperity boost that lower taxes provided to the economy back then was not overshadowed by a Federal government that was insolvent on such a grand scale as it is today.

IMHO, the only way out is radical reduction of goverernment agencies. Social Security and Medicare need not be affected at all to fix this, nor should they be for those at or close to retirement. For those younger than that, they should be given the option to not participate in the program and it should be phased out for younger citizens over decades.

Norquist is a dhimmi.


7 posted on 11/23/2012 10:08:44 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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Chambliss was one of the biggest supporters of McCain-Kennedy Illegal Alien Amnesty a few years ago...so no surprise he will go Big Government Liberal on the “Fiscal Cliff”


8 posted on 11/23/2012 10:08:59 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Marco Rubio is not a Conservative. "Amnesty Liberals" are never Conservative)
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I heard this on CNN this morning. I’ve just finished writing a scathing email to him telling him that I’m done with his RINO ass and will be donating heavily to his next Primary Challenger. He is a disgrace to Georgia, a goddam poweratti too esconced in his own little power-world now.

He only won in 2008 because most Georgians tend to vote Republican. His Republican Primary opponent will get all my support when his time comes for judgement. He’s nothing but a backsliding RINO bastard. I’m tired of having to reach-back and email bitch-slap him.


9 posted on 11/23/2012 10:10:09 AM PST by Gaffer
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I have trouble with all this, and pray can place the right words to screen in addressing this matter. The fiscal cliff is there. Both sides know it is there. Some democRATS say let us go over the cliff. Some republicans have basically said the same thing. I too once was for going over the cliff. Have now backed off.

Have studied norquist a bit recently, and not certain what to make of him. Strange person, norquist is. He could be a democRAT plant, yet not certain. democRATS always want more money, so democRATS can pay money out to certain democRAT voters. Republicans always make deals with democRATS to cut spending, if a tax increase is granted with bipartisanship and the spending cuts never come. Thus, there is the cliff. Am against raising taxes on a few, to pay democRAT voters to continue to vote for RATS. Thus, where does one go? Over the cliff time will come unless spending is cut and the debt is paid. Over the cliff maybe will come no matter what is decided. The only comfort am taking from this looming fight is one day the checks which go out from our government will be no good. To tell the truth, that comfort is not a comfort. norquist? No sure he is on anyones side, or maybe he is with the enemy on the outside? Do know one thing, as a fact. norquist is married to a moslem.

10 posted on 11/23/2012 10:11:49 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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“During the Vietnam War, Chambliss received student deferments and was also given a medical deferment (1-Y) for bad knees due to a football injury.[4]” yet ANOTHER PUSSY COWARD!


14 posted on 11/23/2012 10:23:08 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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Lets start with how much a budget really should be, not the inflated last years
version.

Then put the cuts first in line. Once reached , then revenues can be generated
by smart changes to deductions.

Leave rates alone.......


15 posted on 11/23/2012 10:25:48 AM PST by patriotspride
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No.

But the GOP does need to stop this idiotic “no taxes” pledge.

Taxes are a very useful weapon, just as the Democrats show us repeatedly.

There’s all manner of tax breaks that the GOP could eliminate - eg, for Hollywood and film production, for example. There’s tax breaks for charitable foundations that could be eliminated that would stop a whole host of left-wing funding. There are opportunities for draining the endowments of left-wing indoctrination factories at universities.

All possible through the tax system.

Give the liberals what they want... good and hard.


19 posted on 11/23/2012 10:48:36 AM PST by NVDave
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Not surprising.

People keep saying they want moderates- well folks — this is what you get. Rino’s.

Keep an eye on these people - they’ll be all over the place the closer to the next election we get. I have a long memory because I keep notes and I won’t forget.

I for one will not vote anything other than conservative next election. No more rubber-spined politicians passing themselves off as Republicans!


20 posted on 11/23/2012 10:51:37 AM PST by Babashane
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I think there will be a tax on earned income over $1 million.


21 posted on 11/23/2012 11:07:33 AM PST by Mike Darancette (I don't understand why the Boomers are so passive.)
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Chambliss acknowledged that distancing
himself from the pledge might hurt him in his
bid for re-election in 2014, but said he's
not concerned about it.
..& lying about it.
ahh, that's it..*finger in the air*..
if the TEA Party is active in GA, he'll be toast..
two strikes against him.

24 posted on 11/23/2012 11:21:13 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Anger a Conservative by telling a lie; Anger a Liberal by telling the truth....RWR 8-)
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Good for Chambliss. It’s more than OBVIOUS, even on this site, that Americans are not ready to make the sacrifices needed to get spending down to the level of present taxation.

Even here, older people will not EVEN CONSIDER reforming their welfare programs (i.e., Social Security and Medicare), if it might mean one less dime of goodies for them.

Well, I see my kids being hit with over a trillion dollars of new debt every year. I also know that my 401k’s and IRAs are about to get seized by the government to pay for these goodies. So if Saxby is willing to start having people (including conservatives here) start paying for the level of services that they DEMAND, then I wish him the best of luck.


25 posted on 11/23/2012 11:23:22 AM PST by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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I say give the rats everything they want for now. It will either kill them or kill America (which is more probable) but at least we can rise like the Phoenix in 4 years with no opposition. I’m sure the Lord will keep an eye on us!


26 posted on 11/23/2012 12:18:14 PM PST by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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We don’t need Grahamesty II, but Chambliss is well on his way there, started out Conservative, but has had the GOP lobotomy.


27 posted on 11/23/2012 12:20:29 PM PST by izzatzo
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I’d like to see a primary challenger go up against Chambliss.


29 posted on 11/23/2012 12:23:38 PM PST by Heart of Georgia
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The Norquist pledge defines any increase in the tax base ( for example, by closing loopholes) as a tax increase. We need another Reagan-era Grand Bargain, like the 1986 tax reform, that lowers tax rates in exchange for tax-code simplification that closes loopholes.


30 posted on 11/23/2012 12:30:06 PM PST by riverdawg
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