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Cap-and-trade tax inevitable in near
Waterbury Republican-American ^ | November 21, 2012 | James Barrante

Posted on 11/23/2012 1:47:11 PM PST by Graybeard58

With the result of the Nov. 6 election being what it was, it is pretty clear a cap-and-trade tax is just around the corner. The cap-and-trade tax is a tax on the production of carbon dioxide. This will affect primarily the energy-producing industries. They will, in turn, undoubtedly pass the tax down to the consumer. The price of electricity should skyrocket, and gasoline prices are estimated to increase by at least 20 cents a gallon. This will bring the United States in line with the rest of the world, which, obviously, the citizens of this country (well, at least half of them) want.

The previous attempt to pass a cap-and-trade tax failed, but emboldened by the outcome of the election, the government simply will get the Environmental Protection Agency to do the dirty deed, claiming it is needed to stop climate change. These are the same clear-thinking individuals who declared a few years back that atmospheric CO2 is a pollutant, evidently not knowing the level of CO2 in the atmosphere is critical, since it regulates the acidity of our blood. Change the acidity of our blood by just a small amount and we are cooked. I am sure you have heard of people who have panic attacks and are encouraged to breathe into paper bags. This raises the level of CO2 in their blood. Failure to do so evidently would cause them harm.

The human brain puts out about the same power as a 40-watt light bulb, not very bright. When I wrote my book on global warming, I entitled it "Global Warming for Dim Wits," because I knew I would not be bright enough to find an approach that would convince people CO2 cannot be responsible for climate change, and the public would not be bright enough to understand what I was trying to tell them. When I try to convince people that CO2 (man-made or otherwise) cannot cause significant global warming once its level reaches about 250 ppm in the atmosphere, all they tell me is that there is a consensus of scientists who believe otherwise.


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1 posted on 11/23/2012 1:47:13 PM PST by Graybeard58
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2 posted on 11/23/2012 1:48:16 PM PST by Graybeard58 (What G.O.P.e. candidate is in store for us in 2016?)
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To: Graybeard58
which, obviously, the citizens of this country (well, at least half of them) want.

They don't want it either, there are just too stupid to realize what Obama really intends.

3 posted on 11/23/2012 1:52:46 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Why is the government more concerned about protecting a microbe on Mars than an unborn baby here?)
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To: Graybeard58

If the house lets the ball fall. A new party must be ready to replace the Republican Party.


4 posted on 11/23/2012 1:53:31 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you)
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To: Graybeard58

“This will bring the United States in line with the rest of the world” as far as the financing of bigger and bigger government is concerned.


5 posted on 11/23/2012 1:58:16 PM PST by dontreadthis
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To: dontreadthis

Before the big government advocates can be beaten back this time, I predict at least 20,000,000 deaths. It is not going to be pretty.


6 posted on 11/23/2012 2:03:43 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Graybeard58

Carbon credit trading, carbon permits, carbon taxes, this is the reason Obama is president.

If you establish that the government has jurisdiction over carbon, you have given government a blank check for total power over everything. You have given the government a piece of everyone’s action in perpetuity, and you have created a legalized method of laundering money that can be turned on at will by anyone who is in the government’s good graces. Fall out of their good graces and suddenly the fraud is discovered and down you go. Toe the line and at least the men in suits have a firehose stream of money coming at them that won’t stop.

Trillions of dollars are at stake here, and unlimited power. If they can’t get it one way, they’ll get it another, and they’ll keep coming back until they do. It doesn’t matter that the global warming crowd was exposed as frauds already and everyone knows it; with that much money to be made the elites can be bought easily and will have no problem looking the other way. The only one who can’t look the other way is the citizen who will be managed like cattle and harvested like a garden.


7 posted on 11/23/2012 2:08:37 PM PST by marron
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To: Graybeard58

Copy and paste skills lacking, I omitted the last word in the title, here it is:

Future.


8 posted on 11/23/2012 2:10:09 PM PST by Graybeard58 (What G.O.P.e. candidate is in store for us in 2016?)
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To: marron

Yep. It has absolutely nothing to do about warming, and everything to do about power, taxation and governance.


9 posted on 11/23/2012 2:13:36 PM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

well, that will help depopulate the bureaucracy.
are you anticipating wmd’s or hand-to-hand combat, because 20 million is a large carbon footprint


10 posted on 11/23/2012 2:14:50 PM PST by dontreadthis
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To: Blood of Tyrants

And when you include the “smart” voters that were too principled to vote against barry, we get this crippling tax.


11 posted on 11/23/2012 2:25:55 PM PST by soycd
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To: 17th Miss Regt

“Before the big government advocates can be beaten back this time, I predict at least 20,000,000 deaths.”

Can’t quite see how you’ll do that ...

Those are the 20,000,000 votes that Obama got that were dead ones voting. Do you kill dead voters with a silver stake? Will that stop them from voting in 2014?


12 posted on 11/23/2012 2:26:36 PM PST by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: Graybeard58
Cheap energy = prosperity for everyone.

Expensive energy = prosperity for the socialist ruling class and abject poverty for everyone else.

13 posted on 11/23/2012 2:31:01 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Labor unions are the Communist Party of the USA.)
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To: Graybeard58

It’s pretty clear that Barry and his unholy trio Mochelle, Valerie Jarrett and Katherine Sibelius don’t really care about the unemployed or GDP. All they needed was it to limp along fast enough for them not to lose their jobs. There putting the pieces together....take over health care...gay marriage...tribalism...vilification of the white man....free abortion....wealth distribution.
That’s why all the left wing bloggers from Slate, to Andrew Sullivan to Thomas Friedman never talk about GDP getting worse ....they speak of “improving economy”. Instead they say that Obama’s #1 priority should be cap and trade. If they can get that done they have it all. Energy. The life blood of the capitalistic system will be theirs to tax and control....and so will our lives.


14 posted on 11/23/2012 2:42:56 PM PST by Blackirish
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To: Blackirish

Should I stop holding my breath for the tax break I was promised by Clinton from the big tobacco settlement?

What kind of success will cap and trade be?

We can put down those shovels?


15 posted on 11/23/2012 3:12:49 PM PST by urbanpovertylawcenter (where the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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Thanks Graybeard58.
The cap-and-trade tax is a tax on the production of carbon dioxide.

16 posted on 11/23/2012 3:31:14 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: marron
It's already happened with the Supreme Court's commerce clause interpretation in the 1930's. If it's activity done by humans then it can affect interstate commerce and hence be regulated.Your freedom ends where interstate commerce begins.
17 posted on 11/23/2012 3:40:29 PM PST by bonehead4freedom
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To: Blood of Tyrants

He told ‘em what he intended to do; but their ears were stopped up. The breakfast crowd of geezers we meet with periodically will be grousing like crazy, Democrats all, PROUD Democrats and Obama supporters one and all. I can hear it now - “Gas is SO high! My son got laid off! My daughter can’t find a job; she’s been looking for a year! Everything is SO high! The price on the breakfast buffet has gone up!! Our insurance is SO high; we never used to pay this much!”


18 posted on 11/23/2012 3:55:32 PM PST by Twinkie (Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.)
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To: Twinkie

There are plenty of non-geezers that are loyal dim lemmings that apparently refuse to see reality.


19 posted on 11/23/2012 4:00:15 PM PST by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: Twinkie

They will blame it on the eeeeevil rich corporations and George Bush. And maybe Karl Rove.


20 posted on 11/23/2012 4:59:33 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Why is the government more concerned about protecting a microbe on Mars than an unborn baby here?)
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To: marron

Look around you. Does the last election tell you anything about the value the majority of voters place on Freedom? I see few willing to take personal responsiblity and suffer the consequences for their actions or decisions. We are victims of our own success. A success that has sheltered us from pain that is necessary for a healthy society.
Global Warming isn’t the issue. Carbon is not the issue. It is never about the issue, it is only about power and control.


21 posted on 11/23/2012 5:01:18 PM PST by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: Graybeard58

Its about eliminating the rural vote and herding us into socialist enclaves (cities). Making gas and electricity expensive negates the cheaper real estate of country living.


22 posted on 11/23/2012 5:05:59 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

This is already happening here in SoCal, via the electricity company (SoCal Edison) and the water company (Golden State Water Co)— monthly bills are outrageous and climbing. Rate increases are requested virtually monthly and are granted via the rubber stmping CPUC which is part of the conspiracy designed to impoverish the middle class. All part of UN Agenda 21 which has been incorporated into state legislation here in California.


23 posted on 11/23/2012 5:20:01 PM PST by Czar (NRA Life Member)
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To: Czar

Cant have a gloBULL one world government with gun totting freedom nuts living out in the sticks.


24 posted on 11/23/2012 5:23:42 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: All

Carbon: 6 protons, 6 neutrons and 6 electrons.

666 the number of the beast.


25 posted on 11/23/2012 5:58:15 PM PST by ThE_RiPpEr.
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To: marron

“If you establish that the government has jurisdiction over carbon, you have given government a blank check for total power over everything. “

Food, energy, housing, education, health care, and clothing. The necessities of 21st century life. Government has a stranglehold on education, is wrapping its arms around housing, and with Obamacare implemented in 2014 will have a lock on health care. The regulatory war on coal is having its desired result as the coal industry shuts down. Carbon taxes will give them control over the rest of the energy industry.


26 posted on 11/23/2012 6:20:33 PM PST by Soul of the South
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To: Graybeard58
With the result of the Nov. 6 election being what it was, it is pretty clear a cap-and-trade tax is just around the corner.

Oh Really? Such is the big government progressive mindset...

I was not aware we were a Democracy but rather a Republic; nor, that we elected an Emperor executive but rather an executive that comprises but one third of a LIMITED federal governmental authority.

27 posted on 11/23/2012 9:24:05 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: Graybeard58
... the government simply will get the Environmental Protection Agency to do the dirty deed, claiming it is needed to stop climate change.

Are they going to stop the tides with a regulation? Repeal the Law of Gravity?

Just as likely as stopping any climate change, and there hasn't been any "global warming" for over a decade.

All this solves is letting Algore and Soros cash in on the tons of wothless carbon credits they bought up, and it could bring them Trillion$ of Dollar$.

It's all about the money.

28 posted on 11/23/2012 9:29:51 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: wally_bert

“plenty of non-geezers . . “

Oh, I know it. We have a few of those in our family; fortunately, we don’t have to be around them too much.


29 posted on 11/24/2012 7:25:23 AM PST by Twinkie (ABORTION is GENOCIDE of Blacks & Hispanics!)
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