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To: Graybeard58

Carbon credit trading, carbon permits, carbon taxes, this is the reason Obama is president.

If you establish that the government has jurisdiction over carbon, you have given government a blank check for total power over everything. You have given the government a piece of everyone’s action in perpetuity, and you have created a legalized method of laundering money that can be turned on at will by anyone who is in the government’s good graces. Fall out of their good graces and suddenly the fraud is discovered and down you go. Toe the line and at least the men in suits have a firehose stream of money coming at them that won’t stop.

Trillions of dollars are at stake here, and unlimited power. If they can’t get it one way, they’ll get it another, and they’ll keep coming back until they do. It doesn’t matter that the global warming crowd was exposed as frauds already and everyone knows it; with that much money to be made the elites can be bought easily and will have no problem looking the other way. The only one who can’t look the other way is the citizen who will be managed like cattle and harvested like a garden.


7 posted on 11/23/2012 2:08:37 PM PST by marron
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To: marron

Yep. It has absolutely nothing to do about warming, and everything to do about power, taxation and governance.


9 posted on 11/23/2012 2:13:36 PM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: marron
It's already happened with the Supreme Court's commerce clause interpretation in the 1930's. If it's activity done by humans then it can affect interstate commerce and hence be regulated.Your freedom ends where interstate commerce begins.
17 posted on 11/23/2012 3:40:29 PM PST by bonehead4freedom
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To: marron

Look around you. Does the last election tell you anything about the value the majority of voters place on Freedom? I see few willing to take personal responsiblity and suffer the consequences for their actions or decisions. We are victims of our own success. A success that has sheltered us from pain that is necessary for a healthy society.
Global Warming isn’t the issue. Carbon is not the issue. It is never about the issue, it is only about power and control.


21 posted on 11/23/2012 5:01:18 PM PST by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: marron

“If you establish that the government has jurisdiction over carbon, you have given government a blank check for total power over everything. “

Food, energy, housing, education, health care, and clothing. The necessities of 21st century life. Government has a stranglehold on education, is wrapping its arms around housing, and with Obamacare implemented in 2014 will have a lock on health care. The regulatory war on coal is having its desired result as the coal industry shuts down. Carbon taxes will give them control over the rest of the energy industry.


26 posted on 11/23/2012 6:20:33 PM PST by Soul of the South
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