Posted on 11/23/2012 7:04:45 PM PST by Olog-hai
German companies should receive a subsidy if they take on the long-term unemployed, state governments are set to propose on Friday. Up to 75 percent of the new salary should be paid by the state, if necessary for several years.
As many as 200,000 people across Germany could get a job via the new scheme, the Brandenburg Labor Ministry estimated. It is to present the idea—along with five other states—to the upper house of the German parliament on Friday, the Frankfurter Rundschau newspaper reported. …
The proposal would see companies receive the wage subsidy if they employ someone who “cannot be found regular employment in the foreseeable future,” and who has been out of work for two years or more. If necessary, the subsidy would run for up to five years. The workers would be paid according to union tariffs, and receive a “location-typical” wage. (Brandenburg Labor Minister Gunter) Baaske also said people would not be forced to take the job. “It must be on a voluntary basis,” he said. “Only then can people be motivated.” …
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Orwellian
These days, what isn’t Orwellian?
Section 8 Employment Style.
The man was a prophet, in this respect.
1984 was not meant to be an instruction manual.
The Obamanation is more Brave New World than 1984.
If only the Communist Manifesto was not meant to be so either.
Paying them to work is worse than paying them to not work?
And it would give companies motive to take a chance on someone that they might not consider otherwise.
It’s just as bad.
Goes against the “uncomfortable in their poverty” principle. False premise to assume that the state is going to pay them anyway; slippery slope.
And mixing (nominally?) private business and state in that fashion would be a return to fascism.
Except they aren't uncomfortable. They are provided with food, shelter and walking around money. But maybe not as much as they would like. Which is what would motivate them to take a job that would provide them with more. It does not motive them to take a job that will provide them with the same or less.
False premise to assume that the state is going to pay them anyway
No, it is a true premise. They are already on the dole.
And mixing (nominally?) private business and state in that fashion would be a return to fascism.
It is already so mixed. Has been for a number of decades. And if that is your idea of fascism then the entire EU is Fascist. Hmmmm... come to think of it you might be right as far as that goes.
You’re not getting it as far as the “uncomfortable in their poverty” principle. That was something that Benjamin Franklin put forth as the means to spur people out of their poverty. What societies such as these in the EU are doing (and of course our own so-called “Great Society”) is the very opposite. And the Brandenburg labor minister already acknowledged that there are enough dole recipients that would not take a job of their own free will.
Yes I do understand the principle. The point is that this is Germany and they are not following that principle.
Seeing as that is the reality then this idea makes a certain amount of sense financially.
And the Brandenburg labor minister already acknowledged that there are enough dole recipients that would not take a job of their own free will.
Exactly. So they make it more attractive for them to get a job. The best way would probably be to cut benefits but, at the risk of becoming repetitious, this is Germany and that is not a realistic expectation.
For a country with €5 trillion of hidden debt, I would not say such a scheme makes sense. Anywhere. Get rid of the state benefits and the people would be lining up for these jobs; even thinking that this is a viable idea (even for the country that authored the social market economy) is rather anti-conservative, with all due respect.
This makes a bit more sense then that.
Get rid of the state benefits
If "Ifs and buts were candy and nuts we would all have a merry Christmas." In other words, that will not be happening in the foreseeable future.
It makes no more sense than endless dole.
Shore 'nuff a scheme with a double edge to boot. Taxpayers foot the bill for most of the wages and the welfare recipients actually have to work - that'll leave a mark - I'll bet they protest and riot as a "natural reaction" to such blasphemy.
Do they have to work?
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