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To: palmer
So I took your theory and ran with it that black votes were piled up in city districts by evil Republican gerrymandering and that it was these black votes that gave Obama the election. Here is what I come up with when I total up the votes congressional district by congressional district in Ohio.

There are 16 congressional districts in Ohio and Republicans won 12 of the elections and Democrats won 4 of the elections. The votes for Democrats that ran for Congress in Ohio totaled 2,167,166 whereas the Republicans garnered 2,690,353 votes. In other words, the Republican candidates gained 500,000 more votes in the Congressional elections than did their Democrat counterparts.

When you compare the congressional elections to the Presidential election something strange happens. In the Ohio vote count, Obama got 500,000 more votes than did his Democrat congressional counterparts. Specifically, he garnered 2,695,125 votes while Romney had a slight dropoff off from Republican congressional candidates of 2,588,711. So what we are asked to believe is that almost 500,000 people voted for Obama as President but didn't vote for the Democrat congressman in their district. I would be very interested to hear non-fraud based theories which explain this discrepancy.

25 posted on 11/23/2012 9:52:20 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: vbmoneyspender

I don’t think it is all fraud. I think these people are so dumb they only know to go in the booth and mark Obama. Then they are tired and want to get back on the bus for the free meal.


27 posted on 11/23/2012 9:54:48 PM PST by SteveAustin
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To: palmer; Catsrus
Just in case the response might be that Obama was the only reason for 500,000 additional voters to vote in Ohio, the same thing happened with the Senate election. Sherrod Brown got almost 500,000 more votes than Democratic congressional candidates (i.e. 2,644,425 votes). Whereas the votes that Josh Mandel received (2,366,373 votes) in combination with the votes the libertarian candidate received (240,783 votes) were roughly equivalent to what Republican congressional candidates and Mitt Romney received.

So what would have had to have happened is a bunch of Democrat voters were willing to punch their tickets for both the Democrat Presidential candidate and Democrat Senate candidate but then stopped punching their voting ticket after that. That seems very curious to me. Why would you stop at the Senate candidate? Why not continue down your voting ticket?

This all seems very strange that 500,000 additional votes get generated for Democrats running statewide that don't exist for their down-ticket candidates. And it is particularly curious that these votes appear to have come from cities which have been hemorrhaging voters for many years.

28 posted on 11/23/2012 10:05:26 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: vbmoneyspender; SteveAustin
There are 16 congressional districts in Ohio and Republicans won 12 of the elections and Democrats won 4 of the elections. The votes for Democrats that ran for Congress in Ohio totaled 2,167,166 whereas the Republicans garnered 2,690,353 votes.

When I added up the House votes I got this:
D votes:
125030+131256+188831+110085+131575+140648+133686+329+206763+124079+243387+129251+227076+127467+123201+165638
total: 2308302

R votes:
196783+189400+74938+178604+191892+161095+174836+239221+66844+202166+0+227059+86269+179704+199598+181137
total: 2549546

In Boehner's largest county, Butler:
Romney, Mitt (R) 102,226
Obama, Barack (D) 59,282
Boehner, John (R) 117,559
Condit, James (WI) 106

In Cuyahoga
Obama, Barack (D) 420,953
Romney, Mitt (R) 184,475
Fudge, Marcia (D) 210,921

The difference is the Cuyahoga voters not bothering to pull the lever for their unopposed candidate Fudge. Boehner had no real opponent, but he still picked up at least 15k D votes in Butler county.

I took your theory and ran with it that black votes were piled up in city districts by evil Republican gerrymandering

I never said it was evil. It is what it is. If we didn't have that we would not control the House. It probably results in more RINO reps by diluting the R vote and the D vote for Boehner points out the problems with a too-powerful speaker of the house.

40 posted on 11/24/2012 6:46:32 AM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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