Skip to comments.Hindu-Americans Rank Top in Education, Income
Posted on 11/24/2012 12:20:22 AM PST by MBT ARJUN
Hindu-Americans have the highest socioeconomic levels among all religions in the United States, according to a new study by the Pew Research Centers Forum on Religion and Public Life.
Experts say U.S. immigration policy is the main reason Hindus do so well.
Both the 1965 Immigration Act and the more recent H1-B visa program set the table for Hindus to succeed. The former encouraged the immigration of professionals, particularly doctors and engineers, while the latter was designed to encourage the immigration of highly skilled guest workers.
The number of H1-B visas issued to Indians grew steadily in the late 1990s and early 2000s and then spiked again in 2007. In 2011, according to the study, India accounted for more than half of all the H1-B visas granted. The education capital of this group is phenomenal, said Khyati Joshi, an associate professor at the Fairleigh Dickinson School of Education in Teaneck, New Jersey.
The Pew study, titled Asian Americans: A Mosaic of Faiths, bears that out, and the numbers are staggering.
Eighty-five percent of Hindu-Americans are college graduates, and 57 percent have some postgraduate education, which is nearly five times the national average.
Education levels largely correlate to income, and there as well, Hindus rank at the top of the list.
According to the study, 48 percent of Hindu-American households have an income of $100,000 or more, and 70 percent make at least $75,000.
Another, secondary driver for the success of Hindus can be traced back to Indias caste system, according to Prema Kurien, a professor of sociology and the director of the Asian/Asian American Studies Program at Syracuse University in New York.
Hindu migrants to the U.S. are largely from upper caste backgrounds, she said. Upper castes have had a long history of socioeconomic and educational advantage in India.
According to Alan Cooperman, the associate director for research for the study, the success of Hindus stems from the type of person that chooses to leave India and who the U.S. admits. This, he said, is quite different from other immigrant groups, where there are often high numbers of refugees or undocumented immigrants.
This is the first time anybody has had good data on [Hindus], said Cooperman. Hindus are a fascinating group.
Post British Empire ping!
My former boss at Norman told me to my face that there was only one group of people worse than Jews - Indians. Worst people in the world. But the Jews were the most dangerous people in the world.
Lefties are coils of envy and rage.
So 0bama mostly wants to tax Hindus!?!
So, how do they vote?
From 1950 to 1990, India was a borderline Marxist country.
In the last 20 years, it has become a Hard Left European Socialist economy.
Their universities, just like America, are dominated by Marxists and Socialists.
Indian-American citizens vote 75%-80% for the Democrat Party.
The same day I read this a Republican Congressman was urging America to import more well educated Indians.
You posted like 30 seconds before me.
Indian-Americans vote 75%-80% for the Democrat Party.
They are the most consistently Hard Left immigrant group in America.
This is better than Somali and Muslim ‘refugee’ immigration.
Also better than the welfare immigrants.
My Hindu teammate at work proudly voted for Obozo.
Did he tell you why?
She didn’t want to discuss it, so unfortunately I have no idea what her reasons were.
BTW, the other immigrants on our team, from Poland and Hong Kong, also voted for the idiot. Also a mystery as to why.
There might be a perception that Republicans are anti-immigration.
Well, considering that he's Moo himself and they're technically pagans, and considering that they've worked hard and enjoyed success and tend to register Republican (as in the case of Bobby Jindal), then he's probably carrying more wood for them than Joe DiMaggio.
Every college book you read says how horrible whites were and are (Brits and US) throughout world history and how we abused the other races. Which I don’t believe is as much as they say. Yet, When you think about it—we provided so much of the foundation for civilization for some of the races that they now enjoy but of course, they don’t consider that. It sounds strange to say but when you study the bible — you recognize how God used the inventions or acts of societies for his purposes (e.g., roman roads and the spread of the gospel). I would ask the blacks in this country...had it not been for the sin of slavery—where would you be right now? Get over it.
I made a decision about 5 years ago not to attempt to go into computer information systems field because of these people. It appears American business and/or our government are intentionally trying to dominate the field with these people and to heck with locals.
That’s silly. Everyone here originated with immigrants. Illegal aliens, people who break our laws, are despised.
Actually, we support rule of law. We just abhor people who sneak in the backdoor illegally, then demand recognition and amnesty (including welfare).
People who are dishonest and cheat are neither respected nor wanted in the U.S.A.
Because only the best educated have come to the United States on H1B visas, mainly in the fields of Engineering and Medicine.
What this says to me is that we limit the immigration of highly intelligent and educated people while letting in the ignorant , and uneducated, who WE have to pay to educate.
We let Hispanics walk in any time they like while keeping out people who are of value.
Seems a strange way to run a country, no wonder we are going broke.
They also work very hard.
They are, however, menaces behind the wheel of an automobile.
Therefore, the population of Hindu-Americans are descendant from mainly well-educated immigrants, and of course will be higher earners.
Compare the entire population of Hindus in India to the entire population of Christians in America, and you will have a more reasonable comparison. Or compare only college-educated Christian Americans to Hindu-Americans.
I can tell you from personal experience that they think exactly like Obama. They see all the military activities of the United States post WWII as imperialistic. It doesn’t help that we fund Pakistan either. From watching their news, it seems their government is more corrupt than ours
“I never see a story where Crackers rank highest in anything accept racism.”
Understand that for every Hindu you meet in the US, there are 100,000 sleeping in their feces in India. As with other immigrant groups (including my own), we are importing the top of the heap.
“It appears American business and/or our government are intentionally trying to dominate the field with these people and to heck with locals.”
Absolutely; when a company sponsors an imported Asian coolie (from India, Red China, wherever), they can make them work all kinds of hours that no American would tolerate for those wages (and the coolie only tolerates until his indentured servitude is over - at which point the companies simply import more). Gill Gates, while questioning from one side of his mouth why American kids don’t go to school for computers anymore, fights with our government (under the threat of moving to Vancouver or India itself) to allow him to keep bringing more in (therefore driving down the salaries of the Americans left in the field even further).
Brings whole new meaning to DWI.
There are a number of immigrants that we are importing, umm, not from the top of the heap. (Hint: their government is giving them directions on how to leave their home countries and sneak in here.)
Where I work as a minority white person, those that can vote, voted for Obama. Those that can’t vote, wish they could and they also favor Obama. They listen to the MSM and believe what they hear. Though at home they would still enjoy their caste system.
Amazing what hard work and strong family ties will do for ya’....
Make no mistake, we have quite a lot of Pakistani’s here on H1B as well and they are muslims. In the workforce at least on the surface they get along well with their Indian counterparts however, just like at home the Indians have their own caste system here in the workforce. Those in managment promote from ‘within’ their group.
They (both Indians and Pakistanis) believe the white person is inept and all they need from us is to learn english and understand the American ‘system’.
They may be ‘highly educated’ but usually to one field, coders code and can do nothing else for example. When they do need help they have a network of fellow Indians to assist them, many of them are employed through an Indian recruiting company and they are constantly on the phone having someone help them ‘walk-thru’ whatever task they need to accomplish that wasn’t included in their ‘higher’ education.
“There are a number of immigrants that we are importing, umm, not from the top of the heap.”
Absolutely; while the Asians are to replace our “Anglo” middle and upper classes, the Latinos are to replace our lower class. I guess the sentiment is that they will contribute more, and the racial grudge is removed (though it is simply replaced by a different one in some cases).
Now we are hyphenating based on religion?
Indians here are usually high caste and dreadful snobs and climbers in the worst British kind of way. They should be natural republicans but if they get the idea that being liberal will advance them socially we’ve lost them.
In my job I deal with a lot of Indian’s. Hate to say but a lot of them I deal with, they are kind of condescending and rude. If I had it my way, I would cut off the H1-B program and encourage jobs to come back to the states and that would start with lifting regulatory burden off of hiring.
We have one Indian, Raja, here in the Pittsburgh area who ran as a Republican, first for the Allegheny County Council and then as State Senator. He lost though, let’s face it, we are RAT county. He own a computer business and I don’t know if he is Hindu or not.
Ali replied, “Thank God my granddaddy got on that boat!”
Quick!!! Demonize them, the new HinJews!!!
I agree it’s silly, but nonetheless the perception exists. I’m somewhat mystified by it, it makes no sense, but it’s there.
Or, they might be voting their political principles, which is how you and I vote.
New immigrant citizens have been voting 80% for the Democrat Party for at least three decades.
After Reagan gave Amnesty to 3 million Hispanics in 1986, 75% of Hispanics voted against GHW Bush in 1988, the worst showing for a Republican candidate ever!
This is not white against non-white.
This is Conservatives against Socialists.
You make an excellent point.
I live in the heart of Microsoft country, and at least a third of their programmers are foreign born.
They are smart people, often friendly, and hard workers.
But they are not exceptional in any way.
The Indians compete directly against recent American graduates and older workers, and they absolutely drive down wages and benefits.
Strangely, whenever Bill Gates or Steve Ballmer speak at UWashington, they attract SRO crowds of whooping and cheering youngsters who treat them like heroes.
Their universities, just like America, are dominated by Marxists and Socialists.
The people who come to the US are those who are hurt by socialism and by the affirmative action in India.
Of the 10 Hindus that I know well, 5 are Republicans, 2 are Democrats, and the others split their votes. I think that the problem is that Indians come to American cities, which are highly Democrat and only Democrats reach out to them. This is a probelm of the GOP with many groups. It is an unforced error.
I’m not sure I suggested that India’s present and future are bleak.
I pointed out that India’s recent political history has been Marxist and Socialist.
That helps explain - at least to me - why 80% of Indian-Americans vote for the Democrat Party.
All immigrant groups from the developing world vote 70%-80% for the Democrat Party, so that is not unusual.
What is unusual is that Indians are the best educated and best paid immigrant group in America, but they show no sign of becoming more Conservative.
The idea that Indians will begin to vote for Conservatives if we support higher levels of immigration has no basis in reality.
No matter how deeply we compromise our principles, the Democrat Party will always outbid us.
Indian don’t vote Democrat because of strong affiliation to Marxism or Socialism. That is preposterous.
Most Indians in US are concentrated on the east coast and the west coast, mostly in the big cities. And Indian voting pattern isn’t very different from any other population residing in those areas. They mix and socialize with American students, research grad or professionals in technology companies most whom already happen to be Democrats.
Secondly most Indians are Hindus. Strong radical Christian conservative behaviour, attitude, rhetoric and political discourse turns them off. Many Christians can’t even tolerate a Mormon (Romney) let alone tolerate a Hindu.
Also lets be honest, conservatives are not very immigrant friendly. More so if they are non-European and non-Christian (and Indians meet both those criteria). And conservatives haven’t done much to change that perception. There is no point complaining Indians don’t vote Republican when conservatives do everything to give out the impression that Indians are not wanted/welcomed in the US. Democrats at least put up the pretense of tolerating the immigrants. The Democrats go out of their way to woo the immigrants and Republicans do exactly the opposite. That is the single most important reason for not voting Republican.
You want Indians to vote Republican? Embrace Indians as “ideal immigrants”. Say some nice things about Indians on camera. Talk about trade, scientific, energy cooperation and strategic alliance with India. Dump the usual outsourcing nonsense and you will see Indians lining up behind you in droves. Bush was very popular in India and Sarah Palin was extended a special invite to talk at the Times of India conference.
Its not impossible.
I simply pointed out that they overwhelmingly support Democrats because they are Socialists.
I'm quite interested in your counter-theory about why they vote for Democrats.
If I understand correctly, the fact that they were born, raised, and often educated in a Socialist country has no bearing on their political principles.
Instead, after moving to large coastal American cities and working and socializing with Democrats, they vote Democrat.
That strikes me as, well, incredible.
Your comments on Conservative Christians describe people I have never met or spoken to in person, although I would not be surprised if Hard Left MSM news networks “discover” such people every week.
It's very disappointing to learn that Indians have pre-judged 50 million Americans based on news reports written by Democrat political activists.
Your idea that Democrats “go out of their way to woo the immigrants” is absurd.
The Dems ONLY embrace immigrants who vote Democrat.
Democrats have been trying to shut down Cuban immigration for 40 years!
Gosh, I wonder why?
By the way, what did Republicans do to woo the Cubans?
Please don't answer that - I grew up in south Florida in the 50’s and 60’s, and the GOP did absolutely nothing to woo them.
Indians are just like you and me and the Cubans, ravager.
All of us vote our political principles.
The rest is baloney.
All of us vote our political principles.
The rest is baloney.”
Nope they don't. The only baloney here is your post.
I see your attempt to brand Indians as “socialist”.....based on the fact that they were born and raised in a “socialist” country, India. So why not explain to me how socialist India really is?
What country has welfare, social security, unemployment....food stamp et all? India or US?
What country has medicare, Medicaid program?
What country has tougher environmental regulations and labor laws?
What country has higher corporate taxes?
What government gives out nearly $9 Trillion dollar bailouts to private banking and private auto industry?
Tell me again about socialism in India. Are you telling me that Indians who are voting to liberalize and reform their economy back home in India are voting for more socialism here in US? And if Indian's vote for socialism because they all came from a “socialist” country, explain to me how exactly Americans who are born and raised in a supposedly “capitalist” country are also voting for socialism in large numbers. Its easy to chuck labels around when you don't know or understand enough.
“Your comments on Conservative Christians describe people I have never met or spoken to in person, although I would not be surprised if Hard Left MSM news networks discover such people every week.
It's very disappointing to learn that Indians have pre-judged 50 million Americans based on news reports written by Democrat political activists.”
I am guessing you are not a non-Christian, non-European immigrant. Ofcourse you would not have the same perspective of that of an Indian. And Indians, whatever else they may be, they are not stupid. I am an Indian American myself. I am a Republican and I have voted for Romney.....however I already know first hand how much love I feel from my fellow “Christian conservatives”. I don't need the Leftist MSM to tell me about it. 8 million Christian evangelicals who voted McCain last time chose not to vote a Mormon Romney. I don't need MSM to tell me how much love they would have for a Hindu-Indian. I know already, and so does every other Indian.
“Instead, after moving to large coastal American cities and working and socializing with Democrats, they vote Democrat.
That strikes me as, well, incredible.”
I don't know why that strikes you as incredible. Maybe you don't have enough life experience? Who knows. Yes Indians do live in the big coastal cities. Why would their voting pattern be any different and stand out among all the other ethno/racial groups in that region? You find that incredible?
You have closed your mind to rational discussion.
By the way, I live in east King County (Seattle), the heart of Microsoft country.
We have the second highest concentration of Indian professionals in America outside of Silicon Valley.
I deal with Indians as co-workers and neighbors on a daily basis.
Your “personal” knowledge of Indian politics is no greater and no more insightful than mine.
Also, I searched for the poll I referenced in my very first comment.
It's from Pew Research Center, and is titled “The Rise Of Asian Americans.”
Here's the link:
Pew reports that Indian Americans identify as 65% Democrat to 18% Republican.
No other Asian American group even comes close to this kind of Hard Left self-identification!
Actually NYC and NJ has higher concentration of Indians in the US. You knowing few Indians in little Seattle means squat. I AM an Indian. I was raised in both India and US. I speak the language and practice the religion. I lived among Indians most of my life. There's a VAST difference between knowing a few Indians in Seattle and being an Indian. I know and understand the Indian psyche in ways you never will. So don't even go there.
As for the Pew polls, of all the Asian ethnicity which one is the darkest skin plus non Christian? If a brown skinned non-Christian Indian was to run on a Republican ticket, what do you think would be his chances of winning votes among conservatives? Let's be honest here.
Also a few years ago the same Pew polls also reported that Bush was the most popular in India compared to any other country in the world. Bush must be a Hard Left socialist to be that popular among Indians no?
As for the rest of my post, I didn't see you refuting anything, so I rest my case.