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A Physician’s New Reality: Patients Ask Me to Break the Law
Pajamas Media ^ | 11/24/2012 | Dr. Peter Weiss

Posted on 11/24/2012 8:49:23 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Obama won, Obamacare is the law, and, as my wife says, I will just have to learn to dance to a new song.

Now, don’t get me wrong, Obamacare is awful. Forget all the “free stuff” it provides. Children covered on their parents’ plan until 26 years of age? A scam, making young adults — excuse me, children — pay for complete, comprehensive health insurance when all they need and should pay for is major catastrophe insurance. Then there is the “annual ” or “preventative” exam, which according to Obamacare is “free.”

You gotta love this stuff. I wish I had the chutzpah of the people who wrote Obamacare. What they did not tell you, and I am, is that it covers absolutely nothing more than the bare minimum.

I have now posted a notice in my office and each exam room stating exactly what Obamacare will cover for those yearly visits. Remember Obama promised this as a free exam — no co-pay, no deductible, no charge. That’s fine and dandy if you are healthy and have no complaints. However, we are obligated by law to code specifically for the reason of the visit. An annual exam is one specific code; you can not mix this with another code, say, for rectal bleeding. This annual visit covers the exam and “discussion about the status of previously diagnosed stable conditions.” That’s the exact wording under that code — insurance will not cover any new ailment under that code.

If you are here for that annual exam, you will not be covered if you want to discuss any new ailment or unstable condition. I cannot bait and switch to another code — that’s illegal. We, the physicians, are audited all the time and can lose our license for insurance fraud.

You, the patient, will then have to make a decision.

Do you want your “free” yearly exam, or do you want to pay for a visit which is coded for a particular, new problem? You can have my “free” exam if you only discuss what Obamacare wants me to discuss.

This happened to me personally, as a patient, when I went for my physical. It is the law. If you are complaining of a new problem, then you have to reschedule, since Obamacare is very clear as to what is covered and what is not. Obamacare — intentionally — makes it as difficult to be seen and taken care of as possible.

Patients can be very tricky. I have had patients make an “annual” exam, only to want to discuss and be treated for another ailment. I can’t do it.

I can hear the complaints from you guys already — I become the bad guy. “Why don’t you just take care of the problem, and not bill out any different code? You’re a rich doctor, and we are entitled to free stuff.”

It doesn’t work that way. First, doctors are not rich and, like most of you, actually work terribly hard for a living. Second, Obamacare is the law — and as I said earlier, we are audited all the time now.

Also — I don’t ask for free gas when I go to the gas station, or ask for free food from the supermarket. Additionally, Obamacare has a 23% cut in Medicare reimbursement to doctors and hospitals.

These lower payments won’t cover the cost of staying in practice to take care of the patient.

Private doctors are becoming a thing of the past. By 2014, less than 25% of physicians will be in private medicine. Obama was right in stating you can keep your doctor if you want to — the problem is he or she will rarely be available.

On top of all of that, doctors will be obligated — that’s right, obligated — to talk to you about things you may have no interest or need to talk about.

You may just want to have a pap smear or check your cholesterol. However, I am now mandated by the government to talk to you about your weight, exercise, family life, smoking, sexual abuse(!), and even to ask if you wear seat belts. And I am mandated to record your answers.

I am a physician. But I need to tell you to wear a seat belt and then record your answer.

I have received interesting responses from my patients since I put up the notice. Almost all are supportive and totally understand. The very few who complain? The same patients who always ask for free samples, who always complain that we do not validate parking. These are also the same patients who call my office and ask for free samples even when they are not even being seen.

Obamacare and its 2,000-plus pages are here to stay. I will still give my patients 100% of my time, energy, and knowledge. I still love being a doctor — my patients’ doctor. I will, however, abide by the law and follow it to the letter. I will have to learn this new dance. “Free” has its price.


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1 posted on 11/24/2012 8:49:27 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Does anyone in FReerland know whether or not doctors are mandated to ask patients about their ownership of firearms?


2 posted on 11/24/2012 8:53:42 AM PST by patriotsblood
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To: patriotsblood

How is ownership of firearms related to requiring a colonoscopy?


3 posted on 11/24/2012 8:56:01 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: patriotsblood
Does anyone in FReerland know whether or not doctors are mandated to ask patients about their ownership of firearms?

If they do, my response will be "I don't talk about that. I don't want to spoil the surprise."

4 posted on 11/24/2012 8:59:02 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: patriotsblood

My doctor’s office already does ask about ownership of firearms.


5 posted on 11/24/2012 8:59:15 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: SeekAndFind

No one in their right mind will sign up to be a doctor from about last year through the unforseeable future.

Taking care of oneself will be primary. The obese will be under the bus- they’re there already, they just don’t know it.

Doctors should have been way out in front on this and this article is four years late.

But the AMA is a pro abortion group. Always has been. That’s against the Hip. Oath.

They sold their souls to this and the future of medicine as it was in the U.S. was over on Nov 6th.

They have only themselves to blame.

We are on our own.

Prevention, diet, wound treatment, antibiotic treatment, exercise, knowledge of disease symptoms and treatment etc. Get with the program.

This MD is just whining.


6 posted on 11/24/2012 9:00:36 AM PST by stanne
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To: SeekAndFind

:: I have now posted a notice in my office and each exam room stating exactly what Obamacare will cover ::

Read the comments and no, I arnt kitting meself.

Is there a link to Dr. Weiss’ notice, as posted? That would be instructive, I think.


7 posted on 11/24/2012 9:01:02 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Bread and Circuses; Everyone to the Coliseum!)
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To: tacticalogic

LOL


8 posted on 11/24/2012 9:01:32 AM PST by stanne
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To: SeekAndFind

I have a great doc. When I come in to see him, (maybe once a year), he asks me how I’m doing, checks everything up and then sends me on my way. If the law prevents him from being a better doctor, he just does what he should be doing.


9 posted on 11/24/2012 9:01:40 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ah, but “health” is whatever your new owners think “health” is about. It doesn’t matter if our kids want to be checked for strep throat; they are our kids and will get the medical tests we say they will get.

Now we have a new mama, and she alone will decide what “health” issues we see a doctor for.

That’s what Obamacare is about.


10 posted on 11/24/2012 9:02:39 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: SeekAndFind

Every time I read something like this, I am astounded by how awesome my doctor is.


11 posted on 11/24/2012 9:04:03 AM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: stanne

:: No one in their right mind will sign up to be a doctor from about last year through the unforeseeable future. ::

Unfortunately, I believe this plays right into the hand held by the (ObamaZombie) collectivists.

Not enough doctors? Okay, lets mandate a lowering of standards such that more “deserving” students can play doctor.

That also serves the redistribution plan because now these pseudo-doctors can make a “living wage” just like all those successful doctors that graduated at higher standards (and left the profession in disgust!)


12 posted on 11/24/2012 9:06:01 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Bread and Circuses; Everyone to the Coliseum!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Back when Obamacare first was discussed, my husband asked our doctor what he thought about it. Doc said “it will be good for you and good for me”. Wonder if he still feels that way?
13 posted on 11/24/2012 9:06:29 AM PST by Ditter
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To: patriotsblood

Pediatric doctors sure as hell do it!


14 posted on 11/24/2012 9:07:26 AM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: SeekAndFind
I am now mandated by the government to talk to you about your weight, exercise, family life, smoking, sexual abuse(!), and even to ask if you wear seat belts. And I am mandated to record your answers.

Coming soon, obligated to ask if you are a gun owner - some pediatricians already do, though they are not yet mandated to do so.

15 posted on 11/24/2012 9:09:35 AM PST by Graybeard58 (What G.O.P.e. candidate is in store for us in 2016?)
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To: SeekAndFind
How is ownership of firearms related to requiring a colonoscopy?

Silly question....ever hear of the silver bullet?

16 posted on 11/24/2012 9:09:43 AM PST by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98 Class of '98)
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To: SeekAndFind
Obamacare is the dream of the Marxist Worker's Paradise.

Vladimir Lenin said it best: "The key to Marxism is medicine."

17 posted on 11/24/2012 9:12:24 AM PST by Slyfox
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To: patriotsblood

I don’t know if it’s a new law or just some new recommended standard, but it is on all the forms at ob/gyn and pediatricians these days.

Seems to be inescapable. I write nunya in the space.


18 posted on 11/24/2012 9:12:30 AM PST by Valpal1
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To: A_Tradition_Continues

RE: Silly question....ever hear of the silver bullet?

Only as it applies to Were wolves, but not colonoscopies...


19 posted on 11/24/2012 9:12:41 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
I am more convinced every day that there is some yet "uncoded" language in Zer0-care which will totally defeat the whole bill.

This 2700 page "thing" was written by morons, supported by morons, passed by morons and signed by a moron....so what could go wrong here?

...it may take a few months and a lot of anguish, gnashing of teeth and further wasting of money to find the solution, but its there...staring everybody in the face.

When this "trap door" is found, the regime will quickly move to close it, but hey, this ain't 2009-2010...the regime doesn't have us by the short hairs anymore...the "door" will be impossible to close....(unless, of course, our fearless Speaker doesn't throw us under the bus like our fearless CJ did)

...but, sigh....this may be the ramblings and dreams of an old man, just wishing...and hoping that my grandchildren's life will be better than mine, and my life has been good...

20 posted on 11/24/2012 9:12:41 AM PST by B.O. Plenty (Give WAR a chance.......)
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To: patriotsblood
Does anyone in FReerland know whether or not doctors are mandated to ask patients about their ownership of firearms?

I know we are not.

I know it is "standard of care" for parents of children (per American Academy of Pediatrics), but all that means is that a private legal cause of action (malpractice) is created against the pediatrician or family doc who doesn't ask IF a child then shoots himself or someone else.

So far, "standard of care" has no significance in licensure or other government actions.

It would have been much better if Florida or other states legislating about this matter had banned lawsuits against doctors who don't ask, rather than banning asking the question.

Banning the question is almost certainly unconstitutional, and it covers situations where you HAVE to ask (suicidality, homicidal ideation).

Banning the lawsuits would remove the "standard of care" problem, but, since the lawyers make the laws, that will never happen. Can't leave money on the table, as they say.

21 posted on 11/24/2012 9:15:37 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: patriotsblood
Does anyone in FReerland know whether or not doctors are mandated to ask patients about their ownership of firearms?

I know we are not.

I know it is "standard of care" for parents of children (per American Academy of Pediatrics), but all that means is that a private legal cause of action (malpractice) is created against the pediatrician or family doc who doesn't ask IF a child then shoots himself or someone else.

So far, "standard of care" has no significance in licensure or other government actions.

It would have been much better if Florida or other states legislating about this matter had banned lawsuits against doctors who don't ask, rather than banning asking the question.

Banning the question is almost certainly unconstitutional, and it covers situations where you HAVE to ask (suicidality, homicidal ideation).

Banning the lawsuits would remove the "standard of care" problem, but, since the lawyers make the laws, that will never happen. Can't leave money on the table, as they say.

22 posted on 11/24/2012 9:16:24 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Heh... I always ask the plumber to break the law when he installs a new faucet in my kitchen or bath. “Can you get the government flow restricters out of there for me?” It takes the plumber half-a-minute to do something it takes me half-an-hour to do. Amazingly, some plumbers are hesitant to do it for fear of breaking the law!


23 posted on 11/24/2012 9:16:56 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
Not enough doctors? Okay, lets mandate a lowering of standards such that more “deserving” students can play doctor.

That's already in the bill.

Didn't you read it?

24 posted on 11/24/2012 9:19:07 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
Not enough doctors? Okay, lets mandate a lowering of standards such that more “deserving” students can play doctor.

That's already in the bill.

Didn't you read it?

25 posted on 11/24/2012 9:19:58 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: patriotsblood

Centricity (the Mercedes Benz of EMRs sold by GE) has a field for it in the Pediatric History. So far, AFAIK, it isn’t required to be filled out. When I used Centricity, I never did.


26 posted on 11/24/2012 9:23:03 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: stanne
"This MD is just whining."

That's what you call it when a person objects when the govt. forces him to act against his best professional and ethical judgment ? Whining?

27 posted on 11/24/2012 9:23:35 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("The first duty of intelligent men of our day is the restatement of the obvious." George Orwell)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

I could go on and on. I will say this. YOung physicians have been so brainwashed they think there is such a thing as “Right to Healthcare”. I’m serious. If one person can make a claim on another’s productivity that condition is called slavery.


28 posted on 11/24/2012 9:26:58 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Obamacare and its 2,000-plus pages are here to stay. I will still give my patients 100% of my time, energy, and knowledge. I still love being a doctor — my patients’ doctor. I will, however, abide by the law and follow it to the letter. I will have to learn this new dance. “Free” has its price.”

This is defeatism. Cooperating with the regime by “learning a new dance” only strengthens the regime and tyranny. I guess for this sell-out doc, free does have its price, he is giving up his freedom to practice by complying with these inane rules that will probably impede care.

I have stopped seeing traditional Medicare patients (but will still see Advantage plans for now). I am still in private practice, and I am not planning to go to electronic records. Doctors are not required to ask patients about firearms (but I do enjoy talking about guns when the subject comes up).

There are 3 general paths now for doctors: retire/other profession, join a hospital group and become a part of the machine, reduce exposure to government insurance and go to cash or hybrid insurance/cash with other revenue streams. All 3 options will result in a lower physician supply with reduced access.

But as for Dr. Weiss, I think that he should give up medicine and work for John Boehner. Dr. Weiss might be the perfect rino physician.


29 posted on 11/24/2012 9:29:44 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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To: SeekAndFind

I saw a story video about this the other day. The woman said she was charged for asking too many questions.

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2012/10/19/questions-can-trigger-split-visit-charge-at-docs-office/

What Obamacare has done for me...my wonderful GP says he is retiring, even though he’s in his mid 50’s. My MS neuro at the Univeristy has rather hastily left his position and is now leading research at a major pharmaceutical...leaving behind no MS specialist to take his place but they’re “searching.” My hospital of choice, 80% of the neurologists in my city (along with a slew of other doctors, but I’ve just researched neurologists), and the lab where I get my tests done, are all in a dispute with my insurance carrier due to increased fees, etc. So as of the end of this month, if no agreement is reached, my choices will be very limited when it comes to neurologists (and I have a suspicion that Obamacare plays into the “price war” in some way).

The “you can keep the doctor you have now” didn’t mention “but they probably won’t be practicing.”


30 posted on 11/24/2012 9:36:59 AM PST by memyselfandi59
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To: Jim Noble

Oh, that’s coming. We take good doctors for granted. Research, equipment, pharmaceuticals, educated and moral doctors, no.
Long waiting times, moral dilemmas, lack of care for the old, infirm, addicted, obese and all others who depend on MDs instead of their own self reliance, are just some of the things we’ll have to get used to in addition to having absolutely no privacy.

That’s before we lose our doctors who will retire ASAP, to be replaced by whom? Incurring a $250 - $500K debt before a 4 yr med school, then a 3 year sleepless lifeless internship to work for what $200K for the government in which they can’t practice medicine but who must act as privacy intruders for the gov’t?

no


31 posted on 11/24/2012 9:42:50 AM PST by stanne
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To: SeekAndFind

So if you show up at the doctors office for a yearly exam and die during your exam how does he code it? ;-)


32 posted on 11/24/2012 9:44:12 AM PST by Average Al
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To: Slyfox

Yep, I’ve had that as my tag line for quite some time now.


33 posted on 11/24/2012 9:46:17 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: stanne

“Doctors should have been way out in front on this and this article is four years late.”

I agree, but the left did a good job demonizing ‘those rich doctors’, and defending our profession was made to seem entirely self-interested and ‘about money’. In addition, those docs who have a soap box tend to be those who don’t see patients and who spend all their time as politicians, ‘leadership’ in professional societies, making the rest of our lives miserable while they prop themselves up. It’s a long story, but the minute the idea that ‘medicine is a right’ was allowed to be voiced without vociferous rejection, it was only a matter of time until they pushed to make it a legal entitlement.


34 posted on 11/24/2012 9:48:24 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Ditter

Sounds like time to find a new doctor.


35 posted on 11/24/2012 9:49:56 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Broil 'em now!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind
How is ownership of firearms related to requiring a colonoscopy?

A better question is what does your colon have to do with being a good obedient serf?

36 posted on 11/24/2012 9:55:47 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: memyselfandi59
So as of the end of this month, if no agreement is reached, my choices will be very limited when it comes to neurologists (and I have a suspicion that Obamacare plays into the “price war” in some way

Two words: medical tourism.

37 posted on 11/24/2012 9:59:48 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: SeekAndFind

My date for the Death of America is not election 2012, but the Saturday night at midnight that Obamacare was rammed through.

This election was just the single instant in US History when we could have elected a GOP president and Senate to overturn Obamacare.

We failed and now our fate is sealed and the Death of America is a certainty. A “when” not an “if”.

My guess is that both parties are in on it.

I am so grateful to the Lord God that I was not born any later than I was. It will be bad enough to have to be subject to Obamacare and the moderate socialism I will have to endure these last 20-30 years of my life, but your grandchildren will endure a lifetime of oppression.

My prayers are for them. We gave away the American Dream. America died on my watch. I didn’t cause it, but it makes me sick to my stomach that America died on my watch. Right on time really — 200 years to that tipping point when the immoral, ignorant masses vote for whichever sheister promises the most apparent free goodies.

Free goodies for all, freedom for none.


38 posted on 11/24/2012 10:05:37 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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To: stanne
Doctors should have been way out in front on this and this article is four years late.

And they could have done what?

I know many doctors and have 4 in my family. Absolutely none of them or their partners or their doctor friends support Obamacare and never have.

As for this doctor whining, he's spot on. My brother-in-law, an Oncologist on Detroit's east side had to leave his medical group and go on staff at a local hospital he worked out of because medicare and medicaid were not reimbursing him for the full cost of the chemo therapy drugs he had to administer to his patients......

And as a side note, most of the born and bred American doctors are vehemently opposed to Obamacare, its the foreign doctors that come from countries like India and the middle east who become Democrats and support socialized medicine......

39 posted on 11/24/2012 10:08:35 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: Vince Ferrer

The government has doctors by the tit. You don’t get to retain your license if you don’t play by the rules.

nobamacare...stay healthy or die.


40 posted on 11/24/2012 10:08:55 AM PST by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: patriotsblood
Welcome to FR.

Does anyone in FReerland [sic] know whether or not doctors are mandated to ask patients about their ownership of firearms?

At the VA they ask if you have had and HIV test, and if you own firearms.

My answer is no.

5.56mm

41 posted on 11/24/2012 10:11:46 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: stanne

Sounds like you’re looking forward to it.


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To: patriotsblood

My kids’ pediatrician has been asking about guns in the house for Years now.


44 posted on 11/24/2012 10:16:37 AM PST by GWfan
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To: SeekAndFind

Bump


45 posted on 11/24/2012 10:19:37 AM PST by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: Average Al

“... die during your exam how does he code it?”

The same way...as the freebie annual exam. You read the article...the doctor can’t even call 911 to get you transported to the hospital emergency room.

The body has to be wheeled back out to the doc’s waiting room, and then has to wait for the next available “walk-in” appointment that afternoon.

“Mr. Smith? The doctor will see you now.”

“Mr.Smith? Mr. Smith?”


46 posted on 11/24/2012 10:24:07 AM PST by moovova (Happy Thanksgiving to all. Say a prayer for your country when you bow your head over leftovers.)
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To: stellaluna

“Sounds like you’re looking forward to it.”

Maybe that’s how it’s coming through. I am not looking forward to it. I’m amazed that people did not stop this thing. It’s so obvious that 2,000 pages of who knows what is something no doctor will sign up for.

What is the sense of a health care plan which has no providers? And we have to pay into it?


47 posted on 11/24/2012 10:26:58 AM PST by stanne
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To: stanne
They [Doctors] sold their souls to this and the future of medicine as it was in the U.S. was over on Nov 6th.

They [Doctors] have only themselves to blame.

I believe you have a misguided opinion of your doctor's likely love for Obamacare or his/her ability to have overturned it.

Since I presume you're a conservative voter and conservative voters failed to prevent the reelection of Obama, should I charge you with selling your soul and having only yourself to blame?

48 posted on 11/24/2012 10:37:13 AM PST by doc11355
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To: SeekAndFind

My orthos office has been doing this for years. I can only discuss one thing per visit. Last time I went because my bursa had popped out of my elbow. The day of my visit my back was having horrible spasms also, but I was not allowed to talk about it because I was there for my elbow.

Kind of weird having a doctor ignore a patient’s obvious pain.

I never go to my Internist for a yearly checkup. I just wait for a lot of things to build up and go. She usually ends up sending me somewhere else anyway.


49 posted on 11/24/2012 10:42:19 AM PST by beandog (All Aboard the Choo Choo Train to Crazy Town)
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To: doc11355

Not at all.

BTW, when is the AMA going to come out against abortion and help out?


50 posted on 11/24/2012 10:44:13 AM PST by stanne
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