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Obama’s energy chairman paints rifles a ‘terrorist threat’ for Bloomberg group
Washington Examiner ^ | 11/24/12 | David Codrea

Posted on 11/24/2012 7:07:09 PM PST by Nachum

Rifles, even .22 caliber models many young people receive as their first gun, are “among the greatest threats to the reliability of the nation’s power system,” U.S. Federal Energy Regulatory Commission Chairman Jon Wellinghoff claimed at a Tuesday Bloomberg Government Breakfast, Bloomberg News reported yesterday.

Citing “inadequately protected” transformers as easy targets, Wellinghoff told the group that terrorists in "coordinated" actions committed to destroying them “could get 200 yards away with a .22 rifle and take the whole thing out.”

His proposed solution, a “couple hundred bucks” of “metal sheeting to block the view of transformers” hardly seems comprehensive, realistic, or even sober or sane when his further assertion that it will keep people from seeing through fences presupposes the entire perimeter must be covered. That would seem to be a very expensive proposition, especially when multiplied by the thousands of utility substations throughout the U.S. And it’s not like ladders aren’t plentiful enough.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; bloomberg; chairman; energy; obama; opec; rifles
Pumped up kicks comin' for yer gun
1 posted on 11/24/2012 7:07:17 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

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2 posted on 11/24/2012 7:08:16 PM PST by Nachum (The List is off the Google blacklist- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

“They better run, better run, outrun my gun. All the other kids with the pumped up kicks, they better run, better run, faster than my bullet.”


3 posted on 11/24/2012 7:11:12 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Nachum

That is a given.The only question is when.


4 posted on 11/24/2012 7:13:00 PM PST by sport
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To: Nachum

Where do these people get their information??? A .22 LR has an effective range of 150 yrds ...


5 posted on 11/24/2012 7:14:41 PM PST by Ken522
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Nachum.
Citing "inadequately protected" transformers as easy targets, Wellinghoff told the group that terrorists in "coordinated" actions committed to destroying them "could get 200 yards away with a .22 rifle and take the whole thing out."

6 posted on 11/24/2012 7:15:37 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Ken522
Here is how to do it. Put the .22 round in sabots and mount the result in a .50 cal cartridge. Rechamber the rifle so it will accept the .50 cal cartridge and plink away. The effective range goes up to about 1000 yards and is useful against lightly armored vehicles out to 200 yards.

That is what they are thinking of!

7 posted on 11/24/2012 7:23:28 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Nachum

Replace “transformers” with “politicians” and you may find what they are really worried about.


8 posted on 11/24/2012 7:26:27 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: Nachum

Wind turbine blades are more fun cuz there`re movin` targets.


9 posted on 11/24/2012 7:30:31 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (yup)
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To: sport; Ken522

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


10 posted on 11/24/2012 7:33:47 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Nachum

American-style freedom is the real danger President You Didn’t Build That and his minions see.


11 posted on 11/24/2012 7:34:15 PM PST by Standing Wolf
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To: Nachum

Maybe they should be looking over their shoulders.

Plenty of people fed up.


12 posted on 11/24/2012 7:34:26 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Nachum

Yeah, there’s the ticket: Elmer and Joe Rob seceding from whatever by having at a transformer. With a (shudder) rifle.

People get paid to think this stuff up. Hard to believe.


13 posted on 11/24/2012 7:38:20 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Nachum

Sounds like IQ and shoe size are similar numbers.


14 posted on 11/24/2012 7:39:18 PM PST by Quickgun (I came here screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: bunkerhill7

If you can hits a dove on the wing, you can bag a drone, no prob Bob. I think we scares them. Good.


15 posted on 11/24/2012 7:39:35 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Nachum

United Soviet States of America bump for later...


16 posted on 11/24/2012 7:41:19 PM PST by indthkr
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To: Nachum

I think it’s cocaine fueled paranoia by Barry’s homie czars.

I’ll bet each one of his “czars” has the work ethic and moral compass of Jackson Jr.


17 posted on 11/24/2012 7:43:21 PM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: tumblindice

The small ones flying at low altitude, yes. But you would be hard pressed to hit one of the bigger ones that fly higher than you can see.


18 posted on 11/24/2012 7:46:53 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Why is the government more concerned about protecting a microbe on Mars than an unborn baby here?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Well, we just give `Rowdy' Roddy Piper a call. He can shoot down satellites with a handgun!
19 posted on 11/24/2012 7:53:04 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Nachum
Rifles, even .22 caliber models many young people receive as their first gun, are “among the greatest threats to the reliability of the nation’s power system.."

Actually, tree limbs near the power lines that the electric companies no longer bother to trim because they want to milk out some more profits for their hedge fund owners are the greatest threat to the reliability of the nation's power system. Just look at how many power lines are downed by any good sized storm.

As far as I can tell the kind of guys who own guns are the first guys on the scene with chainsaws, bucket trucks, and everything else you need to put the power lines back up and get them working again when they get knocked down by trees because the electric utility execs are too cheap to trim the trees like they used to.

We've got a lot of fools working for the government.

20 posted on 11/24/2012 7:54:08 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: Nachum

Between “global warming” and rifles they will brainwash the lemmings to get their vote and the principled will still stay home.


21 posted on 11/24/2012 8:03:05 PM PST by soycd
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To: Nachum

I think they are worried about something, but it’s not about the transformers.


22 posted on 11/24/2012 8:23:40 PM PST by Gator113 (**WHO in the hell gave the damn order to NOT rescue our men in Benghazi?**)
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To: Nachum

I didn’t know people shooting at transformers was a problem.

Sounds like a solution they have in mind in search of a problem.


23 posted on 11/24/2012 8:50:20 PM PST by Sequoyah101
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To: Standing Wolf

His brother-in-law probably manufactures metal sheeting. Follow the money. That’s how these guys operate....


24 posted on 11/24/2012 9:12:36 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: Nachum

Hooboy. If you’re scared of .22’s, maybe guns aren’t the issue.


25 posted on 11/24/2012 9:16:53 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Nachum
But, what about a 4" potato howitzer, firing a "loaded" spud? How high does that shielding have to be? Shouldn't we spend the paltry few extra bucks for your bro-in-law to supply a secure roof, too, Mr. Wellinghoff?

Maybe a few terrorists could buy some RC model airplanes drones, and put bombs in them, and crash them into those transformers. Perhaps we should have background checks and waiting periods for buying those things! Or, maybe they could drive a trucks into them; perhaps moats & concrete barriers would help. Or....

We have to fortify every substation and switching yard in the country!

26 posted on 11/24/2012 9:53:00 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: ApplegateRanch

“We have to fortify every substation and switching yard in the country!”

Perhaps simply killing all Muslims would be less expensive?


27 posted on 11/24/2012 10:38:09 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Still not good enough. I’ll slant drill under it at a shallow depth, frack the ground and drop the whole substation into a 200’ deep hole. ;^)


28 posted on 11/24/2012 10:58:12 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Nachum

ping


29 posted on 11/25/2012 1:48:52 AM PST by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: Ken522
There two places on a transformer that could Be damaged by .22 gunfire.

One is too small to hit at 200 yards. The other that easy to hit at that range is too thick to be damaged.

I don't want to point out the exact spots, but anyone in the biz already knows.

The feds crying wolf about cyber attacks has fallen on a dumb media. Now they want to roll two birds with one stone.

30 posted on 11/25/2012 3:32:13 AM PST by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: Ken522

out their butts, of course..


31 posted on 11/25/2012 4:02:52 AM PST by richardtavor
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To: hadaclueonce
Take a few of these out and the grid goes down...


32 posted on 11/25/2012 4:11:38 AM PST by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: hadaclueonce

Maybe they could strengthen the xformer by wrapping it in wire. (hehehehe) (just leave the 2 bitter ends facing my property.)


33 posted on 11/25/2012 4:11:46 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: combat_boots
People get paid to think this stuff up. Hard to believe.

It is a credible threat. A coordinated attack on hundreds of sub stations...organized by cell phone for a specific time on a specific day...would leave a large swath of this country without electricity for months and in some cases years.

There are so few of these transformers held in reserve it's ludicrous. A definite weak spot and no matter what kind of a liberal weasel a-hole says this is a problem...they are correct.

34 posted on 11/25/2012 5:39:31 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ('Need' now means wanting someone else's money. 'Greed' means wanting to keep your own...)
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To: Nachum

Typical liberal hype to control guns once again.

If you want to make a power grid go down all that you have to do is take a coat-hanger, stretch it out and then form it in a large “S” shape and throw it across the wires of a transmission line. “Pow!” It blows the breakers.

For large high voltage transmission lines use a stripped 12ga wire of about 25 feet, tie a weight to it and sling it over 2 wires of the HV line. Of course it’s a good idea to let go of the wire before it touches the lines.

In all cases it will blow the line breakers.


35 posted on 11/25/2012 5:40:08 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Nachum

The fact Wellinghoff would make such a suggestion shows he is an idiot, to put it kindly. Does he think terrorists are so stupid that a metal enclosure around a substation would fool them or protect the transformers? Building it for “a few hundred” dollars? Really. This fool has no idea of the cost of such a wool-brained scheme.

The only way I can forgive such dumb comments is if Wellinghoff is simply saying such fluff for the MSM. Now they’re stupid enough to buy this line.


36 posted on 11/25/2012 5:42:15 AM PST by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: Nachum

The only requirement of these scare tactics are to scare the women and timid men. They believe that the government is in business to raise their children and to protect sissies.

It works every time.


37 posted on 11/25/2012 5:47:27 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Ken522
Where do these people get their information??? A .22 LR has an effective range of 150 yrds ...

Knowing their propensity for twisting facts, if they used any actual ballistics information at all it was from a .22-250.

38 posted on 11/25/2012 5:51:14 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: freeandfreezing
It costs a lot more money to restore power from downed trees than the tree trimming would cost. Point your blame at the "greenies" who obstruct proper maintenance of power line routes because "....the trimming might harm the trees...". The same parties have also prevented the use of sprayed herbicides (2,4,5-T and similar) to prevent regrowth.

I used to live in Louisiana, and now live in Western Washington.

My podunk rural REA down in Louisiana properly maintained power line trimming...as a result, we rarely lost power, even in hurricanes, and when power went down, it was brought back up quickly.

Now, in Washington, the "I love the trees" crowd has prevailed and you have the ridiculous situation of 70 foot tall fir trees ten feed away from a 35 foot high power line. If someone spits on the sidewalk or farts, we lose power.

The ONLY available option for the utility to improve reliability is to "underground" the power cables.......which is REALLY expensive for the utility.

Ludicrous.

39 posted on 11/25/2012 5:54:41 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: DH
The only requirement of these scare tactics are to scare the women and timid men.

There's another, related, requirement as well: put a bug into the ear of someone who might just be interested in doing something like this for kicks.

Any serious "terrorist" organization will have considered options like this for taking down the grid. The local malcontent ticked off at the system because his town overcharged him for a dog license? Probably a new concept to him.

Hell, forget local malcontents ... think of bored TEENAGERS looking for ways to get their kicks on a Friday or Saturday night. Suddenly there's a MUCH more interesting option than popping off at stop signs with their Rimfires.

So, now having planted the idea in the heads of people that would actually be inclined to start taking shots at transformers, all the Democrats have to do is sit back and wait for it to happen. Then ramp up the "terrorist threat" rhetoric to justify more gun control.
40 posted on 11/25/2012 6:18:28 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: 17th Miss Regt
Here is how to do it. Put the .22 round in sabots and mount the result in a .50 cal cartridge. Rechamber the rifle so it will accept the .50 cal cartridge and plink away. The effective range goes up to about 1000 yards and is useful against lightly armored vehicles out to 200 yards.

Was thinking along these lines but who has the machinery and skill to do so? Not many really and there's few machinists that would consider doing this for a kid with his new 22. May as well just buy a fifty cal and some high grain ammo and be done with it. But I'm not much a rifle junky anymore so maybe it would be cheaper your way.

Once again Bloomberg is full of spit and talks a good UN line but really is not a gansta with his mach 10 and 9mm handgun more of a problem killing people than some kid with a 22 considering some anarchy blowing up a transformer and watching all the pretty sparks before the lights go out? You'd THINK this guy would consider the incredible amount of illegal weaponry from gangs more so than some kid that's more prone to killing a few critters, bottles and cans.

signed old fogy that had a 22 back when

41 posted on 11/25/2012 6:19:34 AM PST by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28, Romans 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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To: Nachum

IMHO earthen berms constructed around these vulnerable transformers might offer better bullet protection, and heck if you stuck a few metal rods in them, you might even get decent lightening protection as well. But, what would I know, I’m not a highly trained government engineer.

Sounds like some miniscule branch of the government is dreaming up some non-existent threat, so as to get funding from the DHS teet, to fix a problem that doesn’t exist, or at least to give this “problem” “futher study” status.


42 posted on 11/25/2012 7:55:40 AM PST by krogers58 ( The)
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To: Nachum

As we have been saying for years, they won’t ban your scoped deer rifles, they’ll call them “sniper rifles” first.


43 posted on 11/25/2012 8:42:09 AM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: piroque

Just wait till jihadi squirrels chew through a wire.


44 posted on 11/28/2012 3:19:08 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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