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Woman arrested after scuffle over laptop at Greeley Walmart
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Posted on 11/24/2012 7:57:23 PM PST by Arthurio

GREELEY, Colo. – A woman was arrested and charged with felony robbery after a scuffle during a late-night Thanksgiving sale at a Greeley Walmart.

The Greeley Tribune reported that 22-year-old Amino Idris faces felony robbery charges after she allegedly knocked down another shopper and took a laptop out of her hands during a door-buster sale at the Walmart Supercenter located at 3103 S. 23rd Ave., in Greeley.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections; Technical; US: Colorado
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1 posted on 11/24/2012 7:57:27 PM PST by Arthurio
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To: Arthurio

Probably has an AMD processor.


2 posted on 11/24/2012 8:03:04 PM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: Arthurio

Was it a Lenovo?

Fry’s had a better deal on those I think


3 posted on 11/24/2012 8:04:07 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: palmer
Amino ?
4 posted on 11/24/2012 8:05:38 PM PST by Celerity
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To: Arthurio

I read the rest of the story and can’t figure it out. The assailant took it from the potential buyer but it wasn’t paid for yet. How was it robbery? Did the assailant not pay for it after she took it from the potential buyer?


5 posted on 11/24/2012 8:06:57 PM PST by Graybeard58 (What G.O.P.e. candidate is in store for us in 2016?)
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To: Arthurio

If the woman from whom it was grabbed hadn’t bought it yet, then from whom was it robbed?


6 posted on 11/24/2012 8:06:57 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Arthurio

“The Greeley Tribune reported that 22-year-old Amino Idris faces felony robbery charges after she allegedly knocked down another shopper and took a laptop out of her hands during a door-buster sale at the Walmart Supercenter located at 3103 S. 23rd Ave., in Greeley.”

It will never hold up unless the victim had already paid for it. If she hadn’t paid for it it was still the property of Walmart, and the woman didn’t steal it. It would be a civil mater. No9w the knocking down part sounds like a crime.


7 posted on 11/24/2012 8:07:34 PM PST by babygene
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Exactly the same time.


8 posted on 11/24/2012 8:08:06 PM PST by Graybeard58 (What G.O.P.e. candidate is in store for us in 2016?)
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To: Celerity

Or a celerity processor.


9 posted on 11/24/2012 8:08:26 PM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: palmer

And this is a felony.


10 posted on 11/24/2012 8:09:10 PM PST by X-FID
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To: Graybeard58

Yeah... I could see accusations of simple assault and disorderly conduct, and Walmart itself giving it back to the initial purchaser to buy and banning the grabber from its stores... but it wasn’t robbed from anyone who owned it. The store owned it.


11 posted on 11/24/2012 8:10:06 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: babygene

Assault and battery and disorderly conduct... yep. Robbery? How can there be a theft without the owner losing it? At most, what was stolen was the opportunity to buy the item, which would have been worth what?


12 posted on 11/24/2012 8:15:10 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Arthurio

If I was playing with my brother’s golf clubs and someone took them from me by force, was I not robbed? I don’t think robbery is defined by the ownership of what was taken, but rather by the act of taking something under the lawful control of a person without their permission. If I go shopping and put something in my cart, I’m in lawful possession of that item even if it is technically still owned by the store.


13 posted on 11/24/2012 8:19:07 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Arthurio

Weren’t those the same two who had to be treated after fighting over catching a bouquet at a wedding awhile back?


14 posted on 11/24/2012 8:24:37 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: Graybeard58

robbery involves force or intimidation of a person, theft or burglary is concerned with property...its a good charge imo...even though it still belonged to the store...


15 posted on 11/24/2012 8:30:01 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: Arthurio; shibumi

Amino?!?


16 posted on 11/24/2012 8:53:10 PM PST by Salamander (If animals could speak, mankind would weep.)
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To: Arthurio

I think i was sound asleep when this assault took place.
I went to bed at 9:00pm Thanksgiving night.
F that crap.


17 posted on 11/24/2012 9:00:47 PM PST by mowowie
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To: Kirkwood

Exactly. From a criminal defense site—http://dictionary.legalhelpmate.com/terms/robbery:

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Robbery is the unlawful taking or obtaining of personal property from the person or in the presence of another, against (his)(her) will, by means of actual or threatened force, or violence, or fear of injury, whether immediately or in the future, to (his)(her) person or property, or property in (his)(her) custody or possession, or the person or roperty (sic) of a relative or member of (his)(her) family or of anyone in (his)(her) company at the time of the taking or obtaining. (18 U.S.C. S 1951-1)


18 posted on 11/24/2012 9:17:12 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: palmer

LOL!


19 posted on 11/24/2012 9:20:02 PM PST by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Arthurio

Do these retards not know they are being filmed?


20 posted on 11/24/2012 9:41:29 PM PST by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: Arthurio
According to the paper, Idris took a laptop from a pallet in the store and handed it to a family member during the late-night Thanksgiving sale. As another shopper, 20-year-old Nichole Vanlandingham, also grabbed a laptop and headed toward the checkout to pay for the computer, that’s when Idris reportedly took it from her and knocked her down, the paper said.

I am confused at what happened?

21 posted on 11/24/2012 9:46:52 PM PST by rawhide
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To: Salamander

My guess would be that her mother went into labor while shopping for supplements.

Either that, or her middle name is “Harm.”


22 posted on 11/24/2012 10:17:36 PM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: quantim
Do these retards not know they are being filmed?

Her name is Amino. If you think she's dumb you should meet her brothers Lysine, Arginine and Tyrosine. We can't tell how dumb her uncle Tryptophan is because he's always sleeping.

23 posted on 11/24/2012 10:19:48 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Celerity
Amino ?

She musta been on acid.

24 posted on 11/24/2012 10:44:37 PM PST by Erasmus (Zwischen des Teufels und des tiefen, blauen Meers)
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To: Erasmus; TigersEye; shibumi

Oh, dammit.

Erasmus and Tiger stole my punchlines.

Now I got nothin’.

[maybe she just be amino lady]


25 posted on 11/25/2012 12:44:35 AM PST by Salamander (If animals could speak, mankind would weep.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; babygene; Graybeard58

The woman from whom it was taken was in legal possession of it at the time it was taken from her. There is a presumption that she will pay for it and the law has a preference for orderly commerce.


26 posted on 11/25/2012 2:57:15 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; babygene; Graybeard58

The woman from whom it was taken was in legal possession of it at the time it was taken from her. There is a presumption that she will pay for it and the law has a preference for orderly commerce.


27 posted on 11/25/2012 2:58:02 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: skr

Whose personal property was the computer. It was at best the intended future personal property of the person from whom it was taken.

I think further drilling down is needed, as to what constitutes personal property.


28 posted on 11/25/2012 3:12:27 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: muir_redwoods

And yet shoplifting law generally states that if the customer purposely hides an unpaid-for item from view (though common sense would suggest this probably doesn’t mean burying it under other merchandise in a cart) this constitutes shoplifting. So the person is not free to do whatever he or she wants with it, yet.


29 posted on 11/25/2012 3:14:58 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

No but peacefully adding an item to a shopping cart is legal possession under the presumption one will either pay for it or return it to the shelves.


30 posted on 11/25/2012 3:47:08 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: muir_redwoods

There needs to be further drilling down into definitions. The right to control an item, even if in a constrained manner, may figure in. However it still could lead to some silly consequences. If we were in a bumper car ride and I pushed you out of your bumper car, did I just rob you of the bumper car? Which we both would have to leave at the termination of the ride we had paid a ticket for?


31 posted on 11/25/2012 3:53:26 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: skr

Gotta parse the words...

“Personal Property” is property actually owned by the victim.

Until it is actually paid for it is “store property” not personal property.


32 posted on 11/25/2012 5:33:06 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Certainly a better set of charges would include assault and disorderly conduct. A perhaps more apt analogy would be if a waitress delivered the meal you ordered and another diner snatched it off the table and ate it. I think the diner who ordered the meal, even if the other diner was charged, has a valid complaint; admittedly a minor legal complaint


33 posted on 11/25/2012 5:40:46 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: DH
"Personal Property" is a legal description for property that is tangible (unlike intellectual property) and movable (unlike real property). It is not a description of ownership.

If someone sticks a gun in your face and takes your leased car were you not robbed? The fact that you were not the legal owner of the car is irrelevant when you have legal possession.

34 posted on 11/25/2012 5:59:37 AM PST by ConservativeLawyer (Happy Thanksgiving!)
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To: Graybeard58

The potential buyer was forcefully robbed of an item in her possession intended for purchase


35 posted on 11/25/2012 6:10:57 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: Celerity

Amino ?

Her nickname is lysergic acid diethylamide


36 posted on 11/25/2012 6:54:07 AM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: ConservativeLawyer

when you have legal possession.


In this case you sadly missed the point that the item was taken within the physical confines of the store and that the “legal” possession of the item was that of the store...not the shopper who had yet to transfer “legal” possession of the item via actually paying for it and removing it “legally” from that store’s ownership and inventory.

If assault was involved then the assault was a crime but theft did not occur due to the fact that she was in fact simply moving the inventory of the store around within the store until she actually bought it and it became her “personal” property.


37 posted on 11/25/2012 9:41:16 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: DH

‘Possession’ and ‘ownership’ are terms with different legal connotations. She didn’t have legal ownership but she did have legal possession.


38 posted on 11/25/2012 10:24:49 AM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: muir_redwoods

The tricky part might be if there were only a certain number of those fried eggs (or whatever) the restaurant had to serve, and all others had to eat something else.

The woman got the opportunity to buy the computer at a ridiculous bargain stolen from her (though Wal Mart may have granted it back) and so at least the value of the bargain vs. the normal Wal-Mart retail price of the unit was stolen. Does that amount to enough to be a “felony” — dunno. That’s beyond my ken.


39 posted on 11/25/2012 1:54:57 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: TigersEye

we’re not going to ask you about the karma involved, tigger


40 posted on 11/25/2012 1:57:29 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

We’re not going to ask you about anything.


41 posted on 11/25/2012 2:16:43 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: TigersEye

Meow.


42 posted on 11/25/2012 2:18:34 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

You’re a simpering fool. But thanks for pinging me to your whine anyway. lol


43 posted on 11/25/2012 2:20:43 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: TigersEye

Ah, you out project a 16 theater cineplex.


44 posted on 11/25/2012 2:25:31 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

You pinged me, window licker. LOL


45 posted on 11/25/2012 2:32:57 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: TigersEye

awwww stray kitty.


46 posted on 11/25/2012 2:34:58 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

drunk moron lol


47 posted on 11/25/2012 2:38:34 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: TigersEye

kitty want a saucer of milk?


48 posted on 11/25/2012 2:40:09 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

dumbass want another lithium tablet?


49 posted on 11/25/2012 2:43:14 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Arthurio

See, right there is the problem: Cheap products. It used to be that a laptop was ruggedly built and could have easily been used as a weapon to beat the other guy into submission. Now, people are getting arrested instead of apply local social actions and resolving their conflicts. *sigh*


50 posted on 11/25/2012 2:50:13 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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