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A third President Bush? No thanks. The Oval Office is no place for nepotism
Sacramento Bee ^ | Nov 24 2012 | Foon Rhee

Posted on 11/24/2012 8:28:27 PM PST by WilliamIII

As Barack Obama and many others never tire of telling us, part of the American Dream is that anyone can grow up to be president.

That's not exactly true, of course. It takes smarts and charisma, ambition and ego, money and key allies, and quite a bit of luck to get anywhere close to the White House.

Still, we're not supposed to have political royalty in our democracy, born of a revolution against the British king.

So it made me cringe to see the story on the front page of Friday's New York Times, also published in The Bee, about supporters already talking up Jeb Bush as a potential presidential contender in 2016. That would be the former Florida governor who is the son of George H.W. Bush, our 41st president, and brother of George W. Bush, our 43rd.

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1 posted on 11/24/2012 8:28:29 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

Let the votes of the republic decide. I couldn’t care less if it was relatives of the same family or not. I care what they stand for. For me the first two Bushes were problematic, big-government types. For THAT reason, I wouldn’t want to see another.


2 posted on 11/24/2012 8:35:21 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: WilliamIII
OK, forget the NAME for a second. Jeb Bush was very popular as governor of Florida, even with the Spanish speaking population. He's married to a Hispanic woman. He was very effective and successful and more articulate than his older brother. In fact GHW Bush thought that Jeb would make a better POTUS than GW.

His son, George P. is photogenic and thinking about political office.

I'd vote for him.

3 posted on 11/24/2012 8:35:21 PM PST by boop ("I need another Cutty Sark"-LBJ)
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To: PapaNew

These same people who claim to oppose nepotism, if some cases push Hillary Clinton for president. Hillary’s only qualification is being married to Bill. For that, we are supposed to make her president, but we’re never supposed to consider any other political family relatives???

And what about the numerous Kennedys who have been in political office? Because they are liberal, that’s okay???


4 posted on 11/24/2012 8:40:20 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego ('s)
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To: WilliamIII

It isn’t? What about the First Ladies offices, expenses and salaries?


5 posted on 11/24/2012 8:43:08 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: WilliamIII

Foon Rhee? That first name didn’t accidentally substitute the letter “n” for “l” by any chance . . . ?


6 posted on 11/24/2012 8:44:14 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

looks like this post has drawn the BushBots out tonight


7 posted on 11/24/2012 8:45:58 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: Olog-hai

looks like this post has drawn the BushBots out tonight


8 posted on 11/24/2012 8:45:58 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: Olog-hai

looks like this post has drawn the BushBots out tonight


9 posted on 11/24/2012 8:46:03 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: Dilbert San Diego

you ought to read the article all the way through. he goes on to oppose Hillary too


10 posted on 11/24/2012 8:47:26 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

I don’t care anymore.
I am so sick and tired of being sick and tired.

Whatever.....


11 posted on 11/24/2012 8:48:47 PM PST by mowowie
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To: WilliamIII

I posted the Newsmax article about the possibility of Jeb Bush in 2016 and got 99 percent responses rejecting the notion. Guess when a liberal attacks the democratic process and falsely calls it monarchical dynasties, the perspective alters somewhat.


12 posted on 11/24/2012 8:50:05 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: PapaNew

I care what they stand for. For me the first two Bushes were problematic, big-government types. For THAT reason, I wouldn’t want to see another.
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Yep! And for that very reason......I WILL NOT vote for another Bush. They are poison. If that is what is planned for the next election......count me out.


13 posted on 11/24/2012 8:52:56 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: boop

If Mitt can get the grudging votes of most Freepers, Jeb Bush would be a cake walk.

The Schiavo scandal, however, bids fair to attack Jeb from both sides. Those who felt he went too far, and those who felt he did not go far enough. This could make his base suffer badly.


14 posted on 11/24/2012 8:55:37 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: WilliamIII

Foon is a fool and needs to look up in the dictionary the word ‘nepotism’. No, we won’t go into Bushes any more, but if elected it wouldn’t be a case of nepotism.


15 posted on 11/24/2012 8:58:47 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: WilliamIII

Am I a bush bot for saying this viewpoint is fundamentally wrong? If the people vote for another Bush.. Clinton or whomever its in their power to do so. The author obviously forgets about the Adams and Roosevelt etc.


16 posted on 11/24/2012 8:59:49 PM PST by aft_lizard
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To: WilliamIII

Look for the Dems to be all in favor - if a Bush were elected they’d have someone to blame stuff on for another 20 years...


17 posted on 11/24/2012 9:02:58 PM PST by bigbob
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To: WilliamIII

I’m pretty sure the Kenyan piggy is in there for good. Remember 50% of the people living in this country are going to want their messiah to have a third term. It will be “historical” and those morons love making “history”.


18 posted on 11/24/2012 9:02:58 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Criminal defense lawyers won't have the Twinkie to kick around anymore.)
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To: WilliamIII

There’s plenty of time to talk about this. We can hash out completely the history of the bank Grandpa Bush ran for the Nazis. During the primary battle in 2015. In excruciating detail. Every day. For a year.

In case the GOPe is so stupid they think they can cram another Bush down our throats without any fuss.


19 posted on 11/24/2012 9:05:50 PM PST by DManA ( you)
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To: bigbob

Now that you mention it, it WAS Bush’s fault.


20 posted on 11/24/2012 9:06:42 PM PST by DManA ( you)
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To: WilliamIII

I voted for Bush 1 and 2, I’d rather poke my eyes out with a pencil than vote for Bush 3.


21 posted on 11/24/2012 9:31:05 PM PST by trailboss800
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To: WilliamIII

Obama is the 3rd Bush president. I think he’s hiding his birth certificate because it reveals George H.W. Bush was his real father.


22 posted on 11/24/2012 9:39:21 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: WilliamIII

It’s not nepotism to be elected by the citizens.


23 posted on 11/24/2012 10:21:22 PM PST by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way!)
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To: WilliamIII

It also seems to have brought out the Bush-bashers too! He has a right to run and people have a right to vote for him, don’t they? Right!


24 posted on 11/24/2012 10:30:48 PM PST by dsutah
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To: WilliamIII

I haven’t missed an election in 40 years. But if he gets the nomination I’ll sit it out. This guy getting office will secure the US as a banana republic.


25 posted on 11/24/2012 10:31:38 PM PST by cydcharisse (`)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Hillary’s only qualification is being married to Bill.

Of course she has also been a senator for 8 years and Secretary of State for 4.

26 posted on 11/24/2012 10:31:54 PM PST by wideminded
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To: aft_lizard

Right on! There were the Harrisons (Benjamin and William Henry)who were Grandfather and Grandson as well!


27 posted on 11/24/2012 10:35:02 PM PST by dsutah
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To: WilliamIII

Conservatives, get ready. The RNC is “socializing” the prospect of Running Jeb as “their boy” in 2016. This hype started during the summer and is going to intensify over the next 4 years.

I like Jeb, but I won’t vote for another Bush in the WH. 2 have been plenty and, after the Romney defeat on the heels of the McCain defeat, I want to say that I’m suroprised the RNC is pushing another “moderate” (RINO), but I’m not.

So, get ready. The RNC is laying the foundations for another defeat in 2016 if we don’t stop them.

They’re starting now.

So should we.


28 posted on 11/24/2012 10:45:23 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: DustyMoment

I think no matter who runs, the Democrats have rigged the system.


29 posted on 11/24/2012 10:47:34 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: dsutah

Sure “he has a right to run and people have a right to vote for him”

Same for Obama and his voters

In other words your comment is beside the point


30 posted on 11/24/2012 11:05:36 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

It’s no place for nepotism. It’s now the place for despotism.


31 posted on 11/24/2012 11:34:13 PM PST by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
And what about the numerous Kennedys who have been in political office? Because they are liberal, that’s okay???

Exactly what I was going to say. In ALL THE DECADES those murdering Kennedy drunkards were (and still are) being groomed for high office, that communist rag in Sacramento didn't have one word in criticism to say about it. Hypocritical bastards.

32 posted on 11/25/2012 12:46:10 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: WilliamIII

STAY OUT DA BUSHES!


33 posted on 11/25/2012 12:47:41 AM PST by Redcloak (Winter is coming.)
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To: WilliamIII

Just hit “Post” once, please. Thank you.


34 posted on 11/25/2012 12:53:29 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Dilbert San Diego

My thoughts exactly not to mention Chelsea Clinton I have heard her named thrown about for public office.


35 posted on 11/25/2012 12:53:43 AM PST by funfan
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To: aft_lizard
Am I a bush bot for saying this viewpoint is fundamentally wrong?

As a matter of fact, yes.

If the people vote for another Bush.. Clinton or whomever its in their power to do so.

It's in their power, but there is still the problem of being dumb as a stump if they did so. How's Barky working out for them? (But don't ask them -- they voted for the s.o.b. a second time, so obviously they haven't a clue.)

The author obviously forgets about the Adams and Roosevelt etc.

Oh, really, dynasticism worked for us before, did it?

Well, John Quincy Adams sat in the House of Representatives for years after his term of office as President, and he personally, by himself, kept Texas out of the Union for ten years. Did that benefit the Union?

It was Quincy Adams, by the way, who originally had the idea of "reorganizing" the South politically by force of arms ..... young Abraham Lincoln was obviously paying attention. So, how'd that work out for us? A million dead -- was that worth it, to accomplish what every other civilized nation on the face of the earth managaed to do without a civil war, without a million dead? Think about it for a while before you reply -- about the snooty Massachusetts Yankee, prescriptive and judgmental in the same breath, ordaining civil war as a way to get the tariffs the Federalists wanted, by actually removing Southern representatives and senators from the federal government. Think about that for a while before you reply.

And Franklin Roosevelt -- are you kidding me?! Better he had died of his polio, than that he turned the American republic into a centralized, planned, mandarin-ridden copy of the European dystopian societies. Yeah, thanks a lot, FDR -- and take that damned grinning idiot Doris Kearns Goodwin with you!!!

36 posted on 11/25/2012 1:04:51 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: WilliamIII

“we’re not supposed to have political royalty in our democracy”

And we’re not supposed to have complete, frickin morons in the news media but somehow or another, this ass has a job that doesn’t involve milkshakes.


37 posted on 11/25/2012 1:13:35 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
This could make his base suffer badly.

His base? His base doesn't matter. The MSM matters, we do not.

Mark Halperin, son of traitor and Pentagon-Papers leaker Morton Halperin (both of them worked in the Clinton Administration) and now a senior political writer for TIME, bragged on Charlie Rose during the GOP convention that the MSM wouldn't let the GOP message reach the voters; it would be filtered, spun, prismatically bent and diffracted, into incoherence. He promised that -- provoked by Clint Eastwood's effective endorsement speech -- and he and his fellow media assassins made good his boast.

38 posted on 11/25/2012 1:15:33 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: boop
His son, George P. is photogenic and thinking about political office. I'd vote for him.

Oh, please. Give us a break.

39 posted on 11/25/2012 1:16:55 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: boop

Both Bush have already betrayed conservatives already. One with higher taxes, another with more debt and bailouts


40 posted on 11/25/2012 2:11:13 AM PST by 4rcane
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To: WilliamIII
>>The Oval Office is no place for nepotism

Er ah em let's er put er another Kennedy in they-ah. Like Joe Joe Joe who ah took Bawney Fwank's seat, er, ah... (Note: I think you have to be at least 35 to be prez. Joe Joe Joe turns 35 in Oct of 2015, so...

41 posted on 11/25/2012 2:19:52 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: WilliamIII; All

skeletons in the closet sure to be brought out (both involving Jeb’s kids, or “the little brown ones” as Grandpa called them). Fair to bring these up? Maybe yes, maybe no, Will they? You bet:

>> Gov. Jeb Bush’s son arrested in Texas<
September 16, 2005
HOUSTON (Reuters) – John Ellis Bush, the son of Florida
Gov. Jeb Bush and nephew of President George W. Bush, was
arrested in Austin, Texas, on Friday on charges of public
intoxication and resisting arrest, police said.
redOrbit (http://s.tt/15Z9z)

http://www.redorbit.com/news/general/242295/gov_jeb_bushs_son_arrested_in_texas/

>>The daughter of Florida Gov. Jeb Bush was arrested early Tuesday after she allegedly tried to fill a false prescription at a Tallahassee, Florida, pharmacy, police said.

Police arrested Noelle Bush, 24, at about 1:15 a.m. EST at a Walgreens drugstore and charged her with fraudulently obtaining a controlled substance, a jail spokesman said. Police said she was attempting to pick up Xanax, a sedative used to treat anxiety disorder. The governor and his wife, Columba, released a statement following the arrest.

“Columba and I are deeply saddened over an incident that occurred last night involving our daughter Noelle,” the statement said.

“This is a very serious problem. Unfortunately, substance abuse is an issue confronting many families across our nation,” the statement said.

http://articles.cnn.com/2002-01-29/us/jeb.bush.daughter.drugs_1_noelle-bush-infinity-software-development-drug-court?_s=PM:US


42 posted on 11/25/2012 2:29:25 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: lentulusgracchus

Why should his base keep caring about the MSM.

Early America was marked by every kind of pamphlet imaginable.


43 posted on 11/25/2012 2:32:26 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: raccoonradio

All this political exposure gave them the heebie jeebies.


44 posted on 11/25/2012 2:33:35 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The piggy is just a figure head. He can be swapped out for a clone.


45 posted on 11/25/2012 2:34:27 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Once you give you cannot take away.........dependency kills we have signed our death certificate. Most of the nation after the 2nd term will be dependent and will vote accordingly


46 posted on 11/25/2012 2:43:43 AM PST by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: lentulusgracchus

His son, George P. is photogenic and thinking about political office. I’d vote for him.
Oh, please. Give us a break.
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George P. is a successful lawyer in Texas who is considering running for a State political position. I think I heard it was something like Land Commissioner.

With regard to Jeb... Hell no! The liberal is 100% for amnesty for illegal aliens, based on what I’ve seen in his interviews.


47 posted on 11/25/2012 3:35:53 AM PST by octex
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To: WilliamIII

Old turtle head Jeb... so well reasoned (or at least tries to give the appearance of)... ain’t guuna happen, NO MORE BUSHY PUSSIES IN THE WHITE HOUSE... thank you...


48 posted on 11/25/2012 4:32:21 AM PST by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: Olog-hai

A few years ago, I responded to an article about Jeb Bush becoming POTUS on freerepublic, and for saying that “I have had enough of guys named Bush in the White House,” I was summarily banned from posting again.

Never fully understood that.


49 posted on 11/25/2012 4:45:05 AM PST by ObamaMustGo2012 (Obama Must Go In 2012)
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To: ObamaMustGo2012

So Romney, Bush 1&2, McCain doesn’t meet the purity test... Did the 12 years of Bush stewardship really harm the Republic? I made a decent wage, had job security, I believed the country was protected. I believed the Prez was decent. Honestly I’d be happy with Jeb.


50 posted on 11/25/2012 4:59:36 AM PST by pithyinme (Smiling Joe Biden... too dumb to sell used cars ... to lazy to steal them.)
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