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Wide racial gap exists on speed of Boston-area commutes
Boston Globe ^ | November 24, 2012 | Eric Moskowitz

Posted on 11/25/2012 7:14:51 AM PST by ConservativeStatement

At the end of a recent community meeting on the state transportation system, a grandmotherly woman with a lyrical Caribbean accent strode up to the top transportation official in Massachusetts, dispensing with pleasantries.

“Let me tell you something,” she told Transportation Secretary Richard A. Davey. “I am so upset with Number 28.”

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: boston; demagogicparty; demwitsfault; massachusetts; publictransportation; race; whinewhinewhine
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All those good union Dems making blacks wait longer. Looks like taxes should be raised for better services.
1 posted on 11/25/2012 7:15:01 AM PST by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement

The “Dukakis Center”?! Isn’t that downtown near Stalin Square?


2 posted on 11/25/2012 7:17:46 AM PST by albie
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To: ConservativeStatement

Blacks complaining that their subsidized housing isn’t in prime locations.


3 posted on 11/25/2012 7:18:05 AM PST by Silver Sabre
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To: ConservativeStatement

only fools commute to Boston


4 posted on 11/25/2012 7:18:52 AM PST by brivette
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To: ConservativeStatement

Boston needs to do like Atlanta. MARTA here once hired a Public Housing Queen as its CEO.....rail lines went to places like Perry Homes and the like instead on the north side where suburban ridership could have made it more profitable.

I don’t really care how Boston gets around. Just another Blue City in an ocean of Urban wastefulness.


5 posted on 11/25/2012 7:19:38 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer
Lil Barry just appointed someone from Atlanta as GM:

http://www.wbur.org/2012/11/19/beverly-scott-mbta

Beverly Scott, who will officially assume the post of MBTA general manager on Dec. 17, was given a three-year contract by the T’s board of directors in September after leading Atlanta’s mass transit system for five years.


6 posted on 11/25/2012 7:22:44 AM PST by ConservativeStatement (Smile on Dems: Ignorance is bliss.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Yeah! That’s gonna work out real swell!


7 posted on 11/25/2012 7:24:12 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Recently I was visiting Boston on business. Driving around there was a big headache with traffic plus many streets are not well signed. Easy to get lost especially if one doesn’t use GPS—like me. The older I get the less I enjoy crowded, congested cities and locations.


8 posted on 11/25/2012 7:30:24 AM PST by tflabo
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To: ConservativeStatement

Well then, Obamallini should simply order the racist buses to go faster or he’ll have the drivers shot.


9 posted on 11/25/2012 7:30:31 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: ConservativeStatement

We perfected the solution in the 1950s...tear down the slums to build city freeways and expressways. We called it “Urban Renewal.” Try it again.


10 posted on 11/25/2012 7:33:16 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ConservativeStatement
“Smart Growth,” the socialist art of congesting traffic with speed bumps, sidewalk jetties, lane reduction, adding bicycle lanes, bending straight roads, and adding roundabout intersections, affects buses as well as automobile commuters.

This congestion is meant to discourage private auto use and encourage mass transportation and bicycling. Blacks hit the hardest. That's the ticket, vote socialist.

11 posted on 11/25/2012 7:34:40 AM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: ConservativeStatement
she's free to take her Caribbean accent BACK to the Caribbean if she doesn't like it too...
12 posted on 11/25/2012 7:35:19 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: tflabo

Drove back one night last month picking up my wife from a trip to California. From the airport all the way north through Atlanta, the expressway lights were dark - no money to light them. They didn’t come back on until somewhere north of Fulton county until we reached Cobb County.

Urban governments are broke; they persist in the graft, greed and minority cronyism and favoritism forsaking all other amenities and services they are sworn to provide. Atlanta has been a prime example since the early 1970s when it elected its first black mayor, Maynard Jackson.


13 posted on 11/25/2012 7:35:26 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: ConservativeStatement
The real issue here is the politicians would rather spend billions on trains to nowhere carrying few passengers than toss a few bucks into the till to work up scheduling algorithms that can make existing bus service better, and in the long run, create conditions underwhich bus service can actually be profitable.

Three decades ago I worked out a way a public school district could make use of the techniques designed by the USPS to route and schedule carrier delivery service ~ the purpose would be to make sure that even on the first day of school no kids were left waiting at a bus stop where no bus ever arrived.

My professor thought it was an excellent idea since local school transportation planners could simply call the local post office to consult with an expert in the way the system worked.

Call it a federal/state cooperative technology symposium.

Within a couple of years the prof convinced the state to adopt the method, and since then we haven't had those first day of school disasters, and costs of running school bus systems have declined (relative to inflation).

The municipal bus systems have never shown any interest in this. They answer first to the top end managers, not to the market need.

14 posted on 11/25/2012 7:36:11 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: ConservativeStatement

There is an enormous gap between those who whine, complain and wallow in self-pity while waiting for others to make their lives just peachy and those who appresiate what they have and build on that to make a better life. THAT is where the gap is.


15 posted on 11/25/2012 7:36:31 AM PST by all the best (`~!)
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To: ConservativeStatement

There is an enormous gap between those who whine, complain and wallow in self-pity while waiting for others to make their lives just peachy and those who appresiate what they have and build on that to make a better life. THAT is where the gap is.


16 posted on 11/25/2012 7:36:39 AM PST by all the best (`~!)
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To: ConservativeStatement
You know, maybe they should first take the words "white" and "black" out of the discussion. I know that is terribly difficult for our race-baiting liberal friends, but it is necessary for a couple of reasons. First, if you truly want to be race-blind STOP BRINGING RACE INTO EVERYTHING. Second, if you really want to evaluate the situation, stop bringing in extraneous factors and issues.

The real issue is simple that commuting by car is apparently faster than commuting by bus. Wow, if that surprises anyone you need a serious reality check. Busses are big, less maneuverable, accelerate and decelerate slower, and make a lot of stops along meandering routes rather than simple point-to-point driving in a private automobile.

The whole idea of public transportation is that it is, well, public. Anyone can take it, even those people in their cars zooming past the busses. Yes, it costs some money, yes it takes some amount of time. So why would people go to the extra expense, stress, and hassle of driving themselves? There must be some benefit(s) to it. Turns out there are benefits private transportation - that's why people go to the expense of owning a car.

Now, the typical lib lurker here is probably thinking "We could and should fix this, make it fair!" They'll decide to use our money (via taxes) to buy everyone a car so they can commute at the same speed. The ultimate result will be outrageous traffic, no parking, wasted fuel, and everyone sharing the misery of a slow commute. Or they'll outlaw private cars and commuting by car - again making everyone share the misery.

How about instead we make it truly fair and inject a little freedom of choice and liberty in there. Everyone gets to decide just how much their time is worth. If it is worth enough, they'll save up and buy a car, if not, they'll use public transportation. Maybe a car isn't an option due to financial reasons. Well, if it is important enough, they'll prioritize it over other things, maybe even work on bettering themselves, getting a better job, etc. so they can afford that car.

The fundamental lesson is you cannot give people anything you haven't first taken from someone else. You cannot impose fairness without being brutally unfair to someone. Freedom and liberty mean allowing people to make their own choices, even if they result in disparities, inequalities, and apparent unfairness. You can't "fix" any of that without fascism.

17 posted on 11/25/2012 7:36:43 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

***tear down the slums to build city freeways and expressways.***

I have read that the only part of I-40 that is unfinished is through Memphis Tn as it will go right throught the slumiest part of town.

They had no problem with that in Nashville. They tore them out and built the freeway.


18 posted on 11/25/2012 7:43:10 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The parasites now outnumber the producers.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

So now public transportation is racist? We’re supposed to have liberal angst and find solutions to this new alleged problem? Really?? Are these liberals for real???


19 posted on 11/25/2012 7:43:22 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego ('s)
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To: ConservativeStatement
I didn't even need to read this, the headline says it all.

In other words, affordable housing is scarce and often far from desirable subway and rail stations. Those who can afford to drive largely do so, because it is faster. And a transit system built up over a century to funnel commuters toward downtown Boston does a poorer job connecting to the service and physical-labor jobs not concentrated downtown — meaning longer, slower bus rides, often with transfers.

As usual progressives break everything down by race (victim status). Did anyone ever think that the reason for this is

a) It's more profitable to run transportation lines from certain areas.

OR

b) More convenient mass transit to an area makes the property in that area worth more (supply & demand) so people with higher incomes tend to gravitate there.

20 posted on 11/25/2012 7:44:26 AM PST by YankeeReb
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To: ThunderSleeps

Actually, the article talked about how black bus riders have longer, slower commutes than white bus riders. It’s probably more of a function of living in congested areas further from places of employment than anything to do with the quality of the bus system.


21 posted on 11/25/2012 7:46:14 AM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: Gaffer
Drove back one night last month picking up my wife from a trip to California. From the airport all the way north through Atlanta, the expressway lights were dark - no money to light them. They didn’t come back on until somewhere north of Fulton county until we reached Cobb County.

Welcome to the Third World, it's a shame this crap is going on in this country.
22 posted on 11/25/2012 7:48:43 AM PST by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: ConservativeStatement
I've heard it all.

Racist mass transit. Unbelievable. The Klan set up the routes?
23 posted on 11/25/2012 7:52:05 AM PST by Nepeta
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To: Nowhere Man

When driving there, I always make sure I have my 1911A1 and three clips loaded with 45 ACP DRT ammo.


24 posted on 11/25/2012 7:52:19 AM PST by Gaffer
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"She meant the bus route between Ruggles and Mattapan, which she boarded just after 5 p.m. at Roxbury Community College, to reach the meeting 4½ miles away at Mattapan’s branch library. “It took an hour and 15 minutes to get here,” she said, narrowing her eyes."

Has she ever heard about walking?

When I worked in New York, I almost always walked from the train station to my office. Killing two birds with one stone, getting to the office, and exercise. It took slightly more time than the subway, and was probably much faster than the bus.

25 posted on 11/25/2012 7:53:17 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: ConservativeStatement

I don’t know of anyone or anything that is preventing her from moving to a more convenient area. She remains in her hell hole of her own free will. She can’t understand how to better her situation. This is what socialism is causing & she is not smart enough to get it. It is easier to blame the so called “rich” than to improve her life.


26 posted on 11/25/2012 7:53:46 AM PST by certrtwngnut (He shrugs!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

We live an hour outside of Memphis. You would NOT want to have car trouble in a bad area there. I stopped going to my favorite mall there years ago because of all the crime. Even in the revitalized mid-town area the crime is bad.


27 posted on 11/25/2012 7:54:54 AM PST by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Nepeta
There was an article in the New York Times a few weeks ago about lack of sleeping and how it related to race.
28 posted on 11/25/2012 7:55:11 AM PST by ConservativeStatement (Smile on Dems: Ignorance is bliss.)
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Eventually we are going to realize that not being black is a racist act in and of itself, and deserving of capital punishment.

That's what "Knockout King" is all about.

29 posted on 11/25/2012 7:56:56 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Labor unions are the Communist Party of the USA.)
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To: ConservativeStatement
Why is it always about skin color with the left?
30 posted on 11/25/2012 8:01:55 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Yep - make the Blacks wait and “grease” the way for the homos...Typical Boston Commons “values.


31 posted on 11/25/2012 8:15:10 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: YankeeReb

Actually, the liberal “solution” here is to make cars prohibitively expensive to drive so that whites, after being forced by raw economics into the mass transit system, have just as slow of a commute as blacks. That is the liberal approach to equality - make things suck just as bad for everyone. Except for the ever-important decision-makers, of course.


32 posted on 11/25/2012 8:18:08 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: ConservativeStatement

Let me guess-————We be pickin on dem blacks again.

Pissin and moaning must be a cultural thing.


33 posted on 11/25/2012 8:18:49 AM PST by Venturer
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To: muawiyah

You would never get hired by a mass transit authority. They constantly tweak schedules, with the tweaks almost always making the schedules worse.


34 posted on 11/25/2012 8:21:08 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: ThunderSleeps
The real issue is simple that commuting by car is apparently faster than commuting by bus.

I lived in Williansville, a suburb of Buffalo. I had a 20 minute drive downtown to work. I tried the 'Rapid Transit' system - 12 minutes to the station, 15 minute walk and wait for train, 30 minute ride. Took about an hour. There are only a few places in the US where public transportation makes sense.

35 posted on 11/25/2012 8:21:22 AM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: BenLurkin
Votes. Brainwashing and guaranteed dependency makes Pelosi, Reid, Clinton(s), etc. very rich and powerful.
36 posted on 11/25/2012 8:27:16 AM PST by ConservativeStatement (Smile on Dems: Ignorance is bliss.)
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To: Gaffer

It hacks me off that the legislature continues to let the City run ATL as a cronyism fiefdom. They need to take that playtoy away.


37 posted on 11/25/2012 8:30:31 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

yeah, let’s start doing what the Nazis did and only letting those who can prove they are “of color” ride on the public transportation. The Caucasians can fend for themselves.


38 posted on 11/25/2012 8:32:14 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: dirtboy

Is Poor Charley still on the MTA? He’s had a long ride, but he only owes another nickel.


39 posted on 11/25/2012 8:35:20 AM PST by RightLady
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To: FatherofFive

My son takes a commuter boat to work in Boston. It’s a 15minute drive to the boat and a pretty relaxing ride back and forth everyday. It’s not cheap but it beats the drive which is probably 20 miles and can take well over an hour.


40 posted on 11/25/2012 8:59:02 AM PST by surrey
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To: FreedomPoster

The airport is the golden cow that never stops. It pissed me off even more the Atlanta City Council forced the name change from Hartsfield to Hartsfield - Jackson International Airport.

The only thing fat bastard Maynard ever did was to figure out he and his black cronies could get rich off the airport concession rights. It has been that way ever since then.

Meanwhile, streets are crumbling, water lines over 120 years old are disintegrating, crime and murders are continuing under greatly altered dubious reporting guidelines, and the ‘constituents’ of Atlanta keep electing them.

There was a reason that the “Walking Dead” series focused on Atlanta as the nearest Urban area to to zombie infestation. It is a reality here and now today.


41 posted on 11/25/2012 9:03:05 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: ConservativeStatement

I learn something new every day. Who knew commuting was racist?


42 posted on 11/25/2012 9:06:09 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: albie

The only gap is the wide empty space between the ears of people who come up with this kind of conclusion.


43 posted on 11/25/2012 9:21:25 AM PST by I want the USA back
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To: Gaffer

Normal people should stay as far away from the concentrated Democrat parasite nests (”cities”) as possible.


44 posted on 11/25/2012 9:22:48 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: ThunderSleeps
So why would people go to the extra expense, stress, and hassle of driving themselves? There must be some benefit(s) to it. Turns out there are benefits private transportation - that's why people go to the expense of owning a car.

I will tell you one reason why many people don't take the bus. Obama voters usually ride the bus and for that reason it can be both a hostile environment and dangerous to one's health. Just saying...
45 posted on 11/25/2012 9:31:58 AM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: RightLady

Apparently too few of us are voting for George O’Brien.


46 posted on 11/25/2012 9:39:01 AM PST by Scoutmaster
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To: dirtboy; muawiyah
You would never get hired by a mass transit authority. They constantly tweak schedules, with the tweaks almost always making the schedules worse.

In a government bureaucracy, your status and compensation is determined by the number of people you manage and the size of the budget you oversee. That tells you all you need to know about why government managers would not be interested in anything that would allow them to operate with fewer people and a reduced budget.

47 posted on 11/25/2012 9:42:52 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

“First, if you truly want to be race-blind....”

Your assumption is 180-degrees wrong.

Being “race-blind” is the LAST thing they “truly want”.

“The real issue is simple that commuting by car is apparently faster than commuting by bus.”

I think the real thrust of this article is that “minorities should be relocated to the suburban communities in which whites live, so they, too, can have shorter commutes.”

Next up will be subsidized cars in which to take the shorter drive to work....


48 posted on 11/25/2012 9:49:15 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: Altura Ct.

I learn something new every day. Who knew commuting was racist?
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Indeed. And you don’t see those buses that carry white folks stopping for traffic lights and to pick up and drop off passengers. Red traffic lights and passenger stops (other than “mine”) are obviously racist.


49 posted on 11/25/2012 9:52:09 AM PST by House Atreides
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To: ConservativeStatement

Just looked up on Google the time between two points I regularly travel here in Pinellas County, FL.

Bus: 2 hours, 28 minutes. And that’s with a continuous route, no transfers.

Car: 45 minutes.

Now the bus could travel from point A to point B in the same time as the car, if it didn’t stop every couple of blocks and let people get on and off.

But wouldn’t that pretty much eliminate its utility, except for that tiny percentage who want only to go from A to B?

BTW, the most efficient way to use public transportation around here is to combine it with a bike. You just stick the bike on the front of the bus. Of course, it will only handle two bikes, so it’s not a widely usable solution.


50 posted on 11/25/2012 10:02:57 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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