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Why can't we use executive fiat when we have the chance? [vanity]

Posted on 11/25/2012 12:03:08 PM PST by Feline_AIDS

What's to stop the next Republican president* from walking into the oval office and using executive fiat to immediately close the EPA, defund and/or cripple Obamacare, and phase out the foodstamp program, among other things? Or at least make the requirements insanely strict for foodstamps and disability to make sure it's only used by the truly indigent? Is it just that he/she would become insanely unpopular among 47% of people? Or is there some legal reason he/she couldn't? Because it seems Obama's administration has nothing stopping them from doing similar things.

*assuming he/she would be willing to do this


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KEYWORDS: fiat; obama; vanity

1 posted on 11/25/2012 12:03:11 PM PST by Feline_AIDS
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To: Feline_AIDS

Good point. If the GOP acted like the Dems, we’d have an elected monarchy


2 posted on 11/25/2012 12:04:37 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Feline_AIDS

Uh....because Republicans are weenies?


3 posted on 11/25/2012 12:06:31 PM PST by txrefugee
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To: Feline_AIDS

You have to be against Romneycare and homosexuals in the military to take action against them.


4 posted on 11/25/2012 12:22:24 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: Feline_AIDS

Putting aside the fact that we aren’t going to have a GOP President in our lifetime (assuming the GOP elite still run the party), the Executive has no authority to do that. He can do a fair amount, but it would be in Court in an instant. States would sue. It would be politically untenable. This is the short version but, well . . . can’t happen, won’t happen, and is beyond the authority of the Executive Branch.


5 posted on 11/25/2012 12:24:47 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: Feline_AIDS

In other words, why didn’t we elect Ron Paul?


6 posted on 11/25/2012 12:27:09 PM PST by mangonc2
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To: Feline_AIDS
What makes you think a republican president would want to make those changes? The way the GOP nominating anointing process works, a liberal republican president would keep the big government status quo and feed off the power grab.
7 posted on 11/25/2012 12:28:47 PM PST by TADSLOS (LOSING BIG- The GOP legacy.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Rightward,

Yeah, that’s right! This would be the equivalent of actually making people buy health insurance weather they want it or not.
“Can’t happen. Won’t happen. Politically untenable.”

These guys can and will do anything.

Oldplayer


8 posted on 11/25/2012 12:29:29 PM PST by oldplayer
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To: Feline_AIDS

You vastly overestimate the power of the executive order.


9 posted on 11/25/2012 12:29:37 PM PST by Melas (u)
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To: Feline_AIDS

Presidents from Thomas Jefferson through Richard Nixon claimed and exercised the power to impound and not spend funds appropriated by Congress. In 1972 Nixon refused to spend money for an environmental project he opposed. The Democrat Congress, believing Nixon was abusing the impoundment power, passed the Impoundment Control Act of 1974 which effectively removed the President’s impoundment power.

Essentially, Democrats are all for executive orders and arbitrary actions when Democrat presidents are issuing the rules. When Republicans have control of the executive branch, the Democrats in Congress demand and often achieve limits on presidential power.

No doubt if a future Republican president tried to exercise power the way Obama is, he or she would be impeached by a Democrat Congress.

I’m still wondering why Boehner and the Republicans are not using the Constitutional power given to the House of Representatives to initiate all appropriations. The President can’t spend a dime on Solyndra, czars, aid to the Muslim Brotherhood, or other giveaways without the money being appropriated by the House Republicans. Why do they continue to enable the spending? They could force a balanced budget tomorrow if they just exercised their power. The inaction tells me they either have no courage or they actually favor the spending.


10 posted on 11/25/2012 12:30:41 PM PST by Soul of the South
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To: Feline_AIDS

1) there won’t be another Republican president

2) a Republican president created the EPA.


11 posted on 11/25/2012 12:32:19 PM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: Feline_AIDS

Simple answer to this one...

It’s called the Main Stream Media


12 posted on 11/25/2012 12:40:45 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: Feline_AIDS

The reason the next Republican president can’t rule with fiat is because fiat can now be used to fix elections.


13 posted on 11/25/2012 12:43:38 PM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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14 posted on 11/25/2012 1:03:02 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Feline_AIDS

15 posted on 11/25/2012 1:10:40 PM PST by golux
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To: Feline_AIDS
Actually, every president has the power to NOT spend allocated funds, and to NOT execute laws that are un-Constitutional.

It's the opposite we've been seeing happen.

16 posted on 11/25/2012 1:16:23 PM PST by meadsjn
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To: Feline_AIDS
“What's to stop the next Republican president* from walking into the oval office ....”

That statement right there makes your question null and void.

There WILL NEVER BE another Republican president. Conservative or otherwise. The libs have sewn up the 50+1% of the moocher class. It's over “Johnny”!

17 posted on 11/25/2012 1:22:57 PM PST by CapnJack
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To: Feline_AIDS

First, there would need to be an America, with an in tact Constitution, 4 years from now, before we start speculating about any “Republican” administration.

Don’t count on it!


18 posted on 11/25/2012 1:23:37 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: mangonc2

Uh..because nobody is interested in what he stands for.


19 posted on 11/25/2012 1:25:17 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: txrefugee
because Republicans are weenies?

Quite the opposite. Because Republicans have honor and respect for the law - things you will find in no Democrat... and particularly in this White House.

20 posted on 11/25/2012 1:30:18 PM PST by grobdriver
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To: golux

What car is that?


21 posted on 11/25/2012 1:45:28 PM PST by Lady Jag (If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat. - Reagan)
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To: Feline_AIDS
There will never be another Republican President because there will never be another honest feral election.

Without positive voter identification, either by photo ID or marking with indelible ink like the UN does, Democrats will bus people from one election station to the next to vote as many times as they can.

22 posted on 11/25/2012 1:46:24 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Labor unions are the Communist Party of the USA.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

how do you ink the fingers of a computer program?


23 posted on 11/25/2012 2:07:08 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Feline_AIDS

A moot question. No one should expect to see another Republican president, fraudulent voting having been honed to near perfection.


24 posted on 11/25/2012 2:19:25 PM PST by Elsiejay
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To: golux

25 posted on 11/25/2012 2:53:47 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: GeronL
how do you ink the fingers of a computer program?

Interesting that you didn't consider the possibility of inking the fingers of the voters like the UN does like I said. Life is probably a pretty perplexing proposition for you.

26 posted on 11/25/2012 4:05:31 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Labor unions are the Communist Party of the USA.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If we had paper ballots, that would work

Today we have absentee voting, mail voting, eary voting for a month...

that ink needs to be pretty tough


27 posted on 11/25/2012 4:07:13 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Elsiejay

290 votes in the house (just 50 more) and 66 votes in the Senate (just 19 more) could happen two years from now if conservatives got off their asses. At that point, vetoes can get overridden and the so called President can go to hell, assuming no feel good “across the isle” bs goes on. THIS IS CALLED A PLAN!

And, local votes are more difficult for the marxist/socialist/communist/msm cabal running this country to STEAL than NATIONAL Votes.

With Obamacare, death panels, Hobby Lobby type issues, printing money, devaluation of our money, massive unemployment, exploding debt, massive coming regulation (confiscation) and so on, I frankly don’t see how violence on a massive scale is going to be avoided if REAL CHANGE is going to happen cuz these congress critters just ain’t gonna do it. WE have control of 24 states, they have 13 and 11 are split with the 13 dictating to the 24. At some point Concord is going to happen again although this time it may be Montgomery or Beaumont or Charleston.

One thing is for sure and that is that WE need a leader. And, that LEADER damn sure is not the Republican Party. That leader (Sarah Palin?) must light a fire under the 24 states WE control and have the tenth ammendment become the battle line and hire whole divisions of “lawyers” not soldiers to carry the fight to Obama, Axelrod, Reid,Pelosi and Holder. When we lose the Supreme Court, and arguably we already have, then it is time to “just say No”. Then it’s the Cabal’s turn to make the next move (i.e. fire the first shot!)


28 posted on 11/25/2012 4:07:31 PM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: Cen-Tejas

Bump!


29 posted on 11/25/2012 4:12:40 PM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: Feline_AIDS
"What's to stop the next Republican president* from walking into the oval office and using executive fiat to immediately close the EPA, defund and/or cripple Obamacare, and phase out the foodstamp program, among other things?"

A set of balls.

Impeach the kenyan or secession.


30 posted on 11/25/2012 4:23:30 PM PST by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: G Larry

Unfortunately, you are correct. Americans have shown that they prefer Obama. And so they deserve him.


31 posted on 11/25/2012 4:24:32 PM PST by mangonc2
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To: Feline_AIDS

The Republicans have the power of the purse now. They just refuse to use it.

All they would have to do is say : No more continuing resolutions and pass the required budget bills with the appropriate levels of funding.

If you don’t want to sign this 50% reduction in the budget for the EPA Mr. President you can veto it and the EPA gets zero.


32 posted on 11/25/2012 5:10:07 PM PST by The Free Engineer
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To: mangonc2

ya...clearly the choice was between Paul and Obama.....

Grow up!

The fringe stay at home, or Gary Johnson, or Ron Paul supporters are the ones who stuck America with Obama.


33 posted on 11/25/2012 8:12:45 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Lady Jag; Right Wing Assault
That, Madame, is an executive Fiat: The 130.
34 posted on 11/25/2012 11:07:50 PM PST by golux
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To: golux; Lady Jag

And the RED one is what obama deserves, a 1957 Fiat 500.

Their new model looks a lot like the old one.


35 posted on 11/26/2012 2:43:09 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Right Wing Assault
Pretty to look at but woefully underpowered and wildly inefficient (an extremely slow car, bafflingly a gas guzzler), unreliable, dangerous, flimsy, and made in a foreign country.

Yep, it's an Obama-mobile.
36 posted on 11/26/2012 5:13:29 AM PST by golux
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To: G Larry

Well, Romney didn’t work out so well for you, did he? But more to the point, even if Romney had been elected do you really believe he would have done any of these things?


37 posted on 11/26/2012 9:09:42 AM PST by mangonc2
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To: golux
Excellent double entendre? I had to look it up to be sure and couldn't find whether it was sold in U.S. Would you know if it was sold here?

Did you know the news about the Executive Fiat? Fiat owns Chrysler and that allows them to begin building the Executive anew in Michigan.

38 posted on 11/26/2012 12:04:29 PM PST by Lady Jag (If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat. - Reagan)
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To: Right Wing Assault; golux
I don't know about the 500. Don't you agree that's a bit big for the thief?





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39 posted on 11/26/2012 12:22:18 PM PST by Lady Jag (If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat. - Reagan)
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