Skip to comments.Why can't we use executive fiat when we have the chance? [vanity]
Posted on 11/25/2012 12:03:08 PM PST by Feline_AIDS
What's to stop the next Republican president* from walking into the oval office and using executive fiat to immediately close the EPA, defund and/or cripple Obamacare, and phase out the foodstamp program, among other things? Or at least make the requirements insanely strict for foodstamps and disability to make sure it's only used by the truly indigent? Is it just that he/she would become insanely unpopular among 47% of people? Or is there some legal reason he/she couldn't? Because it seems Obama's administration has nothing stopping them from doing similar things.
*assuming he/she would be willing to do this
Good point. If the GOP acted like the Dems, we’d have an elected monarchy
Uh....because Republicans are weenies?
You have to be against Romneycare and homosexuals in the military to take action against them.
Putting aside the fact that we aren’t going to have a GOP President in our lifetime (assuming the GOP elite still run the party), the Executive has no authority to do that. He can do a fair amount, but it would be in Court in an instant. States would sue. It would be politically untenable. This is the short version but, well . . . can’t happen, won’t happen, and is beyond the authority of the Executive Branch.
In other words, why didn’t we elect Ron Paul?
Yeah, that’s right! This would be the equivalent of actually making people buy health insurance weather they want it or not.
“Can’t happen. Won’t happen. Politically untenable.”
These guys can and will do anything.
You vastly overestimate the power of the executive order.
Presidents from Thomas Jefferson through Richard Nixon claimed and exercised the power to impound and not spend funds appropriated by Congress. In 1972 Nixon refused to spend money for an environmental project he opposed. The Democrat Congress, believing Nixon was abusing the impoundment power, passed the Impoundment Control Act of 1974 which effectively removed the President’s impoundment power.
Essentially, Democrats are all for executive orders and arbitrary actions when Democrat presidents are issuing the rules. When Republicans have control of the executive branch, the Democrats in Congress demand and often achieve limits on presidential power.
No doubt if a future Republican president tried to exercise power the way Obama is, he or she would be impeached by a Democrat Congress.
I’m still wondering why Boehner and the Republicans are not using the Constitutional power given to the House of Representatives to initiate all appropriations. The President can’t spend a dime on Solyndra, czars, aid to the Muslim Brotherhood, or other giveaways without the money being appropriated by the House Republicans. Why do they continue to enable the spending? They could force a balanced budget tomorrow if they just exercised their power. The inaction tells me they either have no courage or they actually favor the spending.
1) there won’t be another Republican president
2) a Republican president created the EPA.
Simple answer to this one...
It’s called the Main Stream Media
The reason the next Republican president can’t rule with fiat is because fiat can now be used to fix elections.
It's the opposite we've been seeing happen.
That statement right there makes your question null and void.
There WILL NEVER BE another Republican president. Conservative or otherwise. The libs have sewn up the 50+1% of the moocher class. It's over “Johnny”!
First, there would need to be an America, with an in tact Constitution, 4 years from now, before we start speculating about any “Republican” administration.
Don’t count on it!
Uh..because nobody is interested in what he stands for.
Quite the opposite. Because Republicans have honor and respect for the law - things you will find in no Democrat... and particularly in this White House.
What car is that?
Without positive voter identification, either by photo ID or marking with indelible ink like the UN does, Democrats will bus people from one election station to the next to vote as many times as they can.
how do you ink the fingers of a computer program?
A moot question. No one should expect to see another Republican president, fraudulent voting having been honed to near perfection.
Interesting that you didn't consider the possibility of inking the fingers of the voters like the UN does like I said. Life is probably a pretty perplexing proposition for you.
If we had paper ballots, that would work
Today we have absentee voting, mail voting, eary voting for a month...
that ink needs to be pretty tough
290 votes in the house (just 50 more) and 66 votes in the Senate (just 19 more) could happen two years from now if conservatives got off their asses. At that point, vetoes can get overridden and the so called President can go to hell, assuming no feel good “across the isle” bs goes on. THIS IS CALLED A PLAN!
And, local votes are more difficult for the marxist/socialist/communist/msm cabal running this country to STEAL than NATIONAL Votes.
With Obamacare, death panels, Hobby Lobby type issues, printing money, devaluation of our money, massive unemployment, exploding debt, massive coming regulation (confiscation) and so on, I frankly don’t see how violence on a massive scale is going to be avoided if REAL CHANGE is going to happen cuz these congress critters just ain’t gonna do it. WE have control of 24 states, they have 13 and 11 are split with the 13 dictating to the 24. At some point Concord is going to happen again although this time it may be Montgomery or Beaumont or Charleston.
One thing is for sure and that is that WE need a leader. And, that LEADER damn sure is not the Republican Party. That leader (Sarah Palin?) must light a fire under the 24 states WE control and have the tenth ammendment become the battle line and hire whole divisions of “lawyers” not soldiers to carry the fight to Obama, Axelrod, Reid,Pelosi and Holder. When we lose the Supreme Court, and arguably we already have, then it is time to “just say No”. Then it’s the Cabal’s turn to make the next move (i.e. fire the first shot!)
A set of balls.
Unfortunately, you are correct. Americans have shown that they prefer Obama. And so they deserve him.
The Republicans have the power of the purse now. They just refuse to use it.
All they would have to do is say : No more continuing resolutions and pass the required budget bills with the appropriate levels of funding.
If you don’t want to sign this 50% reduction in the budget for the EPA Mr. President you can veto it and the EPA gets zero.
ya...clearly the choice was between Paul and Obama.....
The fringe stay at home, or Gary Johnson, or Ron Paul supporters are the ones who stuck America with Obama.
And the RED one is what obama deserves, a 1957 Fiat 500.
Their new model looks a lot like the old one.
Well, Romney didn’t work out so well for you, did he? But more to the point, even if Romney had been elected do you really believe he would have done any of these things?
Did you know the news about the Executive Fiat? Fiat owns Chrysler and that allows them to begin building the Executive anew in Michigan.