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Goldman Sachs CEO: Entitlements must be contained (!!)
CBS Evening News TV ^ | 11/19/2012 | Scott Pelley

Posted on 11/25/2012 12:07:33 PM PST by John S Mosby

Stocks shook off their post-election slump Monday, in part because of optimism that the president and Congress will reach a compromise on the nation's budget by the end of the year.

If they don't, there will be automatic tax increases and huge cuts in federal spending -- that so-called fiscal cliff.

It's a time bomb, according to Lloyd Blankfein, chairman and CEO of Goldman Sachs, and one of the world's most influential bankers. His message to Washington? Make a deal.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: boehner; boehnerisallwegot; goldmansachs
Heard a repeat of this on the radio this AM and about had a stroke, in anger at the sheer AMORAL lying sack of crap this "genius" thief was dishing out. Having people in the obamao socialist's govt, in place to carry out our complete enslavement, and having financed the same liberal demo-socialist STATISTS for the coffin nails on our SOVEREIGN freedom, by providing the "finance" for the very entitlements and open borders--- he now says he entitlements must be contained!! Riiight Lloyd baby-- For over a decade you pushed bad mortgage securities default swaps to "hedge" risk-- knowing all along this was bad paper, and pushed these to the largest govt. providers of mortgage finance Fannie Freddie, and paid for the lobbyists to push the Community Reinvestment Act to give mortgages to people who could never afford them. You brought on financial disaster intentionally, and then financed these same socialist/marxists to re-election. You are a liar, and a thief-- but, you know that already and are proud of it. You have no country of allegiance, but where and to whom will you run to when the last bastion of personal freedom, the country who freed Europe from the very same kind of bondage you are doing to it now--- when the US collapses and you make your collection of sovereign debt. Why should ANYONE talk with you except to decide the length of your sentence (or perhaps the method)?

In Sept, right about the time of Benghazi, "Pedro" Bernanke announced the Federal Reserve would begin buying 40BILL a month of mortgage backed securities... guaranteed to devalue private property and let the govt. become our landlord. Bankers to the marxists.

"The few who understand the system, will either be so interested from it's profits or so dependent on its favors, that there will be no opposition from that class." — Rothschild Brothers of London, 1863

"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws" — Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild

"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws" — Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild

"Most Americans have no real understanding of the operation of the international money lenders. The accounts of the Federal Reserve System have never been audited. It operates outside the control of Congress and manipulates the credit of the United States" — Sen. Barry Goldwater (Rep. AR)

"I have never seen more Senators express discontent with their jobs....I think the major cause is that, deep down in our hearts, we have been accomplices in doing something terrible and unforgivable to our wonderful country. Deep down in our heart, we know that we have given our children a legacy of bankruptcy. We have defrauded our country to get ourselves elected." — John Danforth (R-Mo)

-----Freepers Wake! Dawn broke long ago!!---Here is the line of horse crap:

(CBS News) Stocks shook off their post-election slump Monday, in part because of optimism that the president and Congress will reach a compromise on the nation's budget by the end of the year.

If they don't, there will be automatic tax increases and huge cuts in federal spending -- that so-called fiscal cliff.

It's a time bomb, according to Lloyd Blankfein, chairman and CEO of Goldman Sachs, and one of the world's most influential bankers. His message to Washington? Make a deal.

BLANKFEIN: Their job is to make the country function, not to -- it's not a winning game, it's a get-along game.

PELLEY: Washington playing with fire?

BLANKFEIN: Yes.

An interview with Lloyd Blankfein is as rare as a look inside the Goldman Sachs money machine. He showed us one of seven trading floors at his Manhattan headquarters. Goldman is one of America's most successful investment banks. It had net earnings of $4.4 billion dollars last year. When we asked Blankfein how to reduce the federal budget deficit, he went straight for the subject politicians don't want to talk about.

BLANKFEIN: You're going to have to undoubtedly do something to lower people's expectations -- the entitlements and what people think that they're going to get, because it's not going to -- they're not going to get it.

PELLEY: Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid?

BLANKFEIN: You can look at history of these things, and Social Security wasn't devised to be a system that supported you for a 30-year retirement after a 25-year career. ... So there will be things that, you know, the retirement age has to be changed, maybe some of the benefits have to be affected, maybe some of the inflation adjustments have to be revised. But in general, entitlements have to be slowed down and contained.

PELLEY: Because we can't afford them going forward?

BLANKFEIN: Because we can't afford them.

We wondered whether he thinks the government needs more revenue in the form of higher taxes.

BLANKFEIN: In the long run, there has to be more revenue. And, of course, the burden of that revenue will be disproportionately taken up by wealthier people. That's just logical.

PELLEY: So higher taxes on wealthier people?

BLANKFEIN: More taxes on wealthier people, to the extent that we need to raise more revenue, and we do need to raise some more revenue.

PELLEY: Why is an increase in revenue, in tax money, necessary? Why can't you just cut your way out of the deficit?

BLANKFEIN: For sure certain people in this country wouldn't like the society you would have if you did that, and personally, I don't think I would like it either, if we went as far as to close our entire budget deficit in that way.

PELLEY: What kind of society would it be?

BLANKFEIN: I think it would be one where the safety net would be more porous and lower to the ground.

1 posted on 11/25/2012 12:07:40 PM PST by John S Mosby
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To: John S Mosby

every time they say “Make a Deal”, I hear “Pretend to fix the problem”


2 posted on 11/25/2012 12:12:42 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

Your hearing is fine.


3 posted on 11/25/2012 12:14:16 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Ho, ho, hey, hey, I'm BUYcotting Chick-Fil-A)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

First thing they should do is admit that this problem is going to affect EVERYONE. Then they need to make it clear why this is happening: Government has outspent its ability to pay back its debts.

They should not pretend that this can be remedied by “taxing the rich” or cutting defense.

They need to make it clear that entitlements will be cut, government jobs must be cut, subsidies must be cut etc etc

But they won’t.

Nope.

They will continue to blame Bush, Republicans, the rich while pretending some “deal” will avoid all the pitfalls. While they celebrate the “deal” that saved America they will inflating the currency, a tax increase by inflation on everyone.

The 47% won’t be aware that inflation is being used to cut their benefits and income in real terms. They will only be aware of price increases and they will blame “big business” and “right-wingers”.

It is so much easier for the politicians to do that and hope it works than to do what should be done.


4 posted on 11/25/2012 12:22:13 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: All; John S Mosby

What’s frustrating is all the Republicans have “control” of is the House, and “it’s the best I could do” Boehner is the “leader.”

Let’s tell our Republican congresspersons to vote for a true conservative as leader, the next time the opportunity comes up.


5 posted on 11/25/2012 12:22:34 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: John S Mosby
he now says he entitlements must be contained

He's right, before we turn into Greece.

For over a decade you pushed bad mortgage securities default swaps to "hedge" risk

He sold CDS on MBS?

knowing all along this was bad paper

Then why would he sell CDS on it?

and pushed these to the largest govt. providers of mortgage finance Fannie Freddie,

He sold mortgages to Fannie and Freddie or he sold them CDS?

Bernanke announced the Federal Reserve would begin buying 40BILL a month of mortgage backed securities... guaranteed to devalue private property

I thought it would trigger inflation, making housing more valuable?

6 posted on 11/25/2012 12:27:03 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: John S Mosby

LOL, I loved the way this Democrat scumbag Pelley led Blankfein by the nose to promote tax hikes on “the rich”. Blankfein knows - - or should know - - that even if “the rich” were taxed out of everything they own, the money wouldn’t cover the tip of the national debt iceberg. Of course, Blankfein is just another Democrat scumbag himself, so I’m sure he was happy to be led by the nose by that punk Pelley to bolster the rats’ scheme of getting the GOP to commit party suicide by going along with their tax hikes.


7 posted on 11/25/2012 12:27:12 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: John S Mosby
"...there will be automatic tax increases and huge cuts in federal spending -- that so-called fiscal cliff."

The "fiscal cliff" actually refers to the math regarding exponential growth functions. It is NOT "so-called", it is real and inescapable.

Entitlements consume 56% of the total 2010 Federal Budget....

SS: 19%
Medicaid: 8%
Unemployment: 16%
Medicare: 12 %

Since they are increasing at slightly under 10%, this means a growth doubling every 7 years.

Questions for you non-math types.....What is 2 x 56%? Where in the 7-year doubling period are we, exactly? How do you fund all the rest of government, the departments, the agencies, and services, if entitlements consume 112% of your total budget, of which almost half is ALREADY on borrowed money?

Cliff indeed.

8 posted on 11/25/2012 12:28:54 PM PST by Scooter100 ("Now that the fog has lifted, I still can't find my pipe". --- S. Holmes)
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To: John S Mosby
"...there will be automatic tax increases and huge cuts in federal spending -- that so-called fiscal cliff."

The "fiscal cliff" actually refers to the math regarding exponential growth functions. It is NOT "so-called", it is real and inescapable.

Entitlements consume 56% of the total 2010 Federal Budget....

SS: 19%
Medicaid: 8%
Unemployment: 16%
Medicare: 12 %

Since they are increasing at slightly under 10%, this means a growth doubling every 7 years.

Questions for you non-math types.....What is 2 x 56%? Where in the 7-year doubling period are we, exactly? How do you fund all the rest of government, the departments, the agencies, and services, if entitlements consume 112% of your total budget, of which almost half is ALREADY on borrowed money?

Cliff indeed.

9 posted on 11/25/2012 12:28:54 PM PST by Scooter100 ("Now that the fog has lifted, I still can't find my pipe". --- S. Holmes)
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To: GeronL

That’s a great post right there. You nailed it.


10 posted on 11/25/2012 12:30:35 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Sun

Let’s tell our Republican congresspersons to vote for a true conservative as leader, the next time the opportunity comes up.
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
There needs to be a coordinated effort here, getting the message to the sitting Congressmen/women that a vote for Boehner is a good way to start the end of their career.
They have to be made to realize if ‘they’ don’t do right their will be a move to either replace them in the primaries and if they get nominated the only ‘sure thing’ is voting across the aisle.
These guys aren’t even a glimpse of a speed bump, no sense thinking we have something and ‘hang on to a slim glimmer of hope’, just give it to the other side and be done with it.

The Senators that are on the 2014 ballot need to be given the same message. Keep laying down and it will cost you.
If nothing else, make them SPEND that war chest they all have stowed away.


11 posted on 11/25/2012 12:33:09 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: Lancey Howard

I ain’t that smart but I got it. There is no way the politicians, or some of them, don’t understand this.


12 posted on 11/25/2012 12:45:01 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Lancey Howard

I ain’t that smart but I got it. There is no way the politicians, or some of them, don’t understand this.


13 posted on 11/25/2012 12:45:09 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Scooter100

BUMP


14 posted on 11/25/2012 12:49:19 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Scooter100
"Fiscal Cliff"

Giant shoe stomping on the face of America, forever.

I stole that from somewhere.... Heinlein I bet.

15 posted on 11/25/2012 12:52:15 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: John S Mosby

It isn’t a deal. IT’S A TRUCE!! But they will come for our money eventually!

http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/2012/11/25/japanese-and-spanish-house-price-deflation/


16 posted on 11/25/2012 12:53:32 PM PST by whitedog57
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To: John S Mosby

This is full of crap and a schill for Barry et al.

The wealthy, some of whom I know, are going go back to their advisors and look fir opportunities to reduce their obligations to Fed.

Try taking a long term view on their portfolios buying muni’s and bonds not in America but in other countries that have better yields than our D ick head gubmint delivers.

Hell, the numbers on return are astounding. However only the real wealthy will be buying into as the requirement for entering first spends starts @ $100k and some require a million or more.

Further, if you’ve been for a few years you don’t actually own much as your homes, art, cars and kettles of physical gold and silver are held in trusts and the best part? Theyzzz dunn been paid off years ago.

No rent, no mortgage, no car payments and an emergency stash that is untraceable if it’s sold.

Their travel can be front loaded by purchasing extra hours on Netjet. So, instead of paying a million bucks to fly charter, they’ll simply spend an extra three or four million to get them through the next 4-6 years and they’ll take that against their earnings this year.

Then they will take big pile of cash they have been quietly saving in their rainy day stash and take more earnings this year to get them through the next few years.

Over simplification but, that’s about how it will go.

The government will never achieve their revenue goals because the wealthy will simply limit their income and even move to tax free bonds.

A big FU to the theives of DC.

If they trully need more revenues they need policies that will sour investment, creating jobs and start sticking it to China, forcing them to compete on a level field.

They will create more taxpayers and they could raise the tax thresholds on all income requiring more people to pay taxes and then raise their rates.


17 posted on 11/25/2012 12:55:23 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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18 posted on 11/25/2012 1:00:00 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

“Then why would he sell CDS on it?”

Because he knew it would be paid for with a TARP, provided by his GS governmental employees whenever he needed, and that they would never have to eat it.

And thats what happened. The US government gave 10 billion of TARP funds to GS. Amazing, he can talk about the need for containing entitlements, as he enjoys the mother of all entitlements.

Wonder what a capitalist investment bank would look like? You know, one that doesn’t get governments funds anytime it it’s about to lose a bunch on bad investments.


19 posted on 11/25/2012 1:02:33 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: GeronL
Yes entitlements like 10 billion in bailout bucks should be cut...
20 posted on 11/25/2012 1:03:42 PM PST by VaRepublican (I would propagate taglines but I don't know how. But bloggers do.)
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To: VaRepublican

bailouts, “green loans”, corn, ethanol, sugar, corporate, agricultural subsidies of all types should be eliminated.

More than half the cost of welfare is government bureaucracy, we can slash that in half and save hundreds of billions without even touching benefits (those could be trimmed too).


21 posted on 11/25/2012 1:07:13 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Vendome

They could just announce those 47%ers ain’t getting their refunds this year... “for the common good”..

hahaha...

the riots...


22 posted on 11/25/2012 1:10:09 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: John S Mosby

Harvard educated, and GS man with his mouth firmly on the taxpayers nipple. He’s a shoo in to follow Paulsen. Or maybe Bernake’s Fed seat when his term expires next year. lol


23 posted on 11/25/2012 1:12:03 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: GeronL

Orwell. 1984.


24 posted on 11/25/2012 1:19:48 PM PST by Dick Bachert (Obama for president -- of KENYA!)
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To: Dick Bachert

Thank You


25 posted on 11/25/2012 1:24:20 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: John S Mosby

I think I may lose it when Slick Willie’s wife starts blaming Bush for all of the problems in the world during her Hillary 2016 Trash the GOP campaign. I can’t believe that the communists are allowed to get away with that crap. It has to be one of those “dumbing down of America” things that the DemocRATS came up with.


26 posted on 11/25/2012 1:42:10 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Criminal defense lawyers won't have the Twinkie to kick around anymore.)
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To: DesertRhino
Because he knew it would be paid for with a TARP,

That's just silly. A short term loan doesn't pay for losses.

And thats what happened. The US government gave 10 billion of TARP funds to GS.

Gave? It was awful! They borrowed $10 billion and the Treasury received $11.4 billion back.

Amazing, he can talk about the need for containing entitlements, as he enjoys the mother of all entitlements.

If entitlements paid back the government more than they cost, we would need no reform.

27 posted on 11/25/2012 1:59:31 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: John S Mosby

Also;.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fEqkphVOkHc#t=5s


28 posted on 11/25/2012 2:30:52 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: John S Mosby

If all of these so called experts seem to think they can dole out advice, then why did they need bailing out? They have proven to most sane people that they are incapable of handling their own business affairs and yet they think that we should be interested in their advice.


29 posted on 11/25/2012 2:47:46 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: GeronL
"They should not pretend that this can be remedied by “taxing the rich” or cutting defense."

Agreed, but the scheduled defense cuts add up to about $38 billion per year. The remainder of the cuts probably total around $350 billion per year or more and may preced large numbers of layoffs, cuts in federal spending to local governments, cuts in social spending, etc. I suspect that's what many politically active folks are most afraid of.


30 posted on 11/25/2012 3:00:01 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: GeronL

I haven’t run the numbers yet but of the 47% who pay no taxes about half, at least, shouldn’t.

That half is actually indigent, hopelessly handicapped and retired.

Of the other half they are actually moochers and should be forced off the taxpyer dole. But, we can’t get there with our insane policies that prohibit and dissaude investment and put capital to work.

Once we get another Contract with America type of mindset and policy, only then will money come out from under the matresses or be repatriated to the US and bring the Arsenal of Democracy, as it were, back to life and it will do so with Epic results and demand for no skill, low skill and highly skilled workers will skyrocket.

But, the new Contract with America must, That’s Must! Have an external extant of demand to China and we must enforce rational sane competition on a level playing field.

If we don’t do that we will continue to sputter along at 2% or lower growth and China will kick everyone’s ass through obstinate indifference for a lack of consequence.

No consequence with a demand in behavior change will only continue unabated and China will eventually steal enough of our IP and then blamo!

The new sales pitch from China will be “Don’t buy their crap, buy my crap for less” and they will laugh their tiny littlr d icks off as we are frustrated by them.

We must fix this or eventually we will become Post America.

Unacceptable....


31 posted on 11/25/2012 3:04:46 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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Self-ping. Thanks John S Mosby.


32 posted on 11/25/2012 3:09:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Vendome

bump

Hard to argue with that


33 posted on 11/25/2012 3:19:52 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Here’s a refresher course. The largest subprime suppliers were Fannie and Freddie with all major investment banks urging them on and parking trillions into shadow banking vehicles using default swaps. They didn’t even know how the risk investments worked, nor did they care. The off-balance-sheet vehicles, the derivatives and the ‘shadow banking system’ itself – was to find a way round regulation— regulation that was CREATED (Community Reinvestment Act) by the very people these jackasses support—liberals in washington, every one of them bought dogs (Dodd and Bawney Fwank, and nearly all on the Senate Banking Committee). If you think the Fed buying 40B a month with money they have to beg from overseas will help support values— well...enjoy your delusion.

Maybe it’s your rice bowl or something— hunger will do that.


34 posted on 11/25/2012 6:02:34 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: GeronL

If Republicans were supporting bringing back US jobs, there would be no ground to stand on, about blaming the GOP.

Just saying...


35 posted on 11/25/2012 6:05:31 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: xrmusn; holdonnow

“There needs to be a coordinated effort here, getting the message to the sitting Congressmen/women that a vote for Boehner is a good way to start the end of their career. ....”

Agreed. The next time Boehner comes up to be reelected, let’s all contact our congresscritters. I bet Mark Levin would help us with that.


36 posted on 11/25/2012 7:26:28 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: John S Mosby
Dear Goldman Sachs CEO,
 

Sincerely,

TArcher

37 posted on 11/25/2012 7:59:34 PM PST by TArcher
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To: John S Mosby
The largest subprime suppliers were Fannie and Freddie with all major investment banks urging them on

Fannie and Freddie supplied subprime mortgages? Really? Who did they supply them to, Goldman?

and parking trillions into shadow banking vehicles using default swaps.

Fannie and Freddie used default swaps? Why?

If you think the Fed buying 40B a month with money they have to beg from overseas will help support values— well...enjoy your delusion.

The Fed begs money from overseas? Why would they do that?

Maybe it’s your rice bowl or something—

I'm more worried about your bowl than mine. Maybe you should smoke less? You're not making sense.

38 posted on 11/25/2012 9:16:46 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Sun

Agreed. The next time Boehner comes up to be reelected,
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
I would imagine it is this year, start of a new term...Only think that because there is a (very slim) chance one gets voted out.
I think the worse thing is a ‘split’ vote, as we may stand the chance of a “D” SOH ...can’t give these fool RINO’s something to work for though...that would be their ‘perfect storm’, have a Majority but not the Leadership...

ALL should be ousted each voting cycle...problem is that we all agree ALL/MOST politicians belong in a cell (padded or not) EXCEPT mine, he is pretty good.

The above is the reason we get the same old trash back year after year and these idiots can retire on what was meant to be a part time/mostly volunteer job.

Now ‘they’ are the (self described/imposed) gentry.

Ruling us instead of representing us as was the original intent.


39 posted on 11/25/2012 11:52:58 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Math is hard. Harder if you don’t know a thing about it or anything about people.
So use a dictionary and total that up.

Try re-reading what was posted, also the lying deceitful jive of the CBS interview and show the folks you have reading comprehension capabilities, and perhaps some kind of memory of who the actors are and what they did (that is to say,as matters of FACT). Then let the folks here know how it is you label yourself a “patriot” on that basis and for what sovereign nation.
No patriot would defend this crapweasel mordecai or his pals in the lickspittle media who carry water for a tyrant.

Have never smoked—anything other than fish or wild hog in cookers.

Deo Vindice.


40 posted on 11/26/2012 8:06:01 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: John S Mosby
No patriot would defend this crapweasel mordecai or his pals in the lickspittle media who carry water for a tyrant.

Sorry for your confusion, I'm not defending any crapweasels.

I don't care how big an ass he is, we need to reform entitlements before we turn into Greece.

I'm also sorry you're ignorant of the workings of Fannie, Freddie, MBS, CDS and the Fed. Maybe you shouldn't inhale so much hog?

41 posted on 11/26/2012 3:24:08 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: John S Mosby

Blankfein should be punched in the nose again.


42 posted on 11/26/2012 3:31:06 PM PST by ksen
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