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1 posted on 11/25/2012 3:45:35 PM PST by plain talk
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The 47% figure that Obamacare is FREE, like every other thing they get from others, via the “Governement Money”.


2 posted on 11/25/2012 3:46:36 PM PST by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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What happens once the idiot Hussein voters finally figure it out?


3 posted on 11/25/2012 3:49:15 PM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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I hope it costs them every last dime in their pockets.

We shouldn’t make it our mission to protect them from their stupidity. Already too many people have don’t that their entire lives.


11 posted on 11/25/2012 4:02:35 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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Neither do the other 57%: hell, the idiots who passed it don't even know.

Impeach the kenyan or secession.


12 posted on 11/25/2012 4:05:24 PM PST by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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13 posted on 11/25/2012 4:05:43 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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It will cost them any chance at all to get health care for starters.
15 posted on 11/25/2012 4:07:42 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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“If you think healthcare’s expensive now, just wait until it’s free.”


18 posted on 11/25/2012 4:12:47 PM PST by carriage_hill (America - a great idea while it lasted.)
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T A N S T A A F L


20 posted on 11/25/2012 4:15:56 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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January 2014 is going to be greatly entertaining when everybody who thinks that Obamacare means free health care gets their fines from the IRS for not buying insurance.


21 posted on 11/25/2012 4:18:22 PM PST by Mr. Blond
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Read the comments after the article, especially the ones from the Obama true believer "mwbright". He/she/it leads off with this gem:
Talk about cold blooded claptrap from an evil old woman, getting paid to spew lies on behalf of the Insurance industry. Sorry, but regarding Obamacare, that ship left port. It’s the law of the land and it’s going to evolve pretty quick into Single Payer, and all Americans will soon come to wonder why in the world anyone ever believed such lying nonsense.

23 posted on 11/25/2012 4:28:04 PM PST by COBOL2Java (The GOP-e said "Beat a Marxist with a Liberal!" What a colossal blunder.)
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They’re too dumb to realize it. If they do, they’ll just blame the evil Republicans.


24 posted on 11/25/2012 4:31:36 PM PST by RB156
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my moron 20 something nieces and nephews on Thanksgiving were talking about Obamacare. 1 of them works for Applebees and thought it was ridiculous that the owner wasn’t going to give them full time employment to pay for the healthcare. I bit my tongue and tell I could bit it no more. And then I let loose


25 posted on 11/25/2012 4:32:01 PM PST by Anti-Hillary (Soon everything in America will be "free", except it's people.)
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Yep, no car, no house, the first item in every budget will be the Democrat’s Mandatory Heath Care Insurance Bureaucracy.


28 posted on 11/25/2012 4:40:31 PM PST by Son House (Romney Plan: Cap Spending At 20 Percent Of GDP.)
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Wow, what’s really amazing is people still think there will be a 2016 election


29 posted on 11/25/2012 4:42:04 PM PST by lookout88 (.combat officer's dad)
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The 47% don’t have any idea what the “Affordable Health Care Act will cost? AND WHO’S FAULT IS THAT ????

Expecting voters to know what’s going on and their reliance on MSM is just part of why our great loss. While there are examples of fraud which may close up the gap, the gap is too big to blame the loss on fraud ...Expecting GOP E’s to address media bias or Romney to call Obama a congenital liar or even point out that the fact and figures released by the white house were allways questionable is another Let alone call him a “socialist”.. But the fault lies really in the messaging the Republican campaign came up.choking on political correctness parameters or triping over past positions on global warming and Romneycare both of which were bread and butter issues. .Then busy responding to pseudo positions devised by the demo-com party and echoed by their hand maiden camp followers in the media allowing them to set the agenda ..

Romney ran a “Johnny One Note Campaign”. Used a poison dart blow gun when he should have used a cannon loaded with grape shot because he had pleanty of stuff he could fill that cannon barrel with..

They failed to hammer away on what will happen when Obama gets returned; The Obama past due 2013/14 Tax Increases. The impact of Obama’s gagging energy.resources.(a socialist construct never branded as such) with policies requiring reliance on intermittent sources wind and solar and that resulting in massive corruption .,restricted use of drilling, and coal ,bans and on fracking, and resulting prices doubling on everything.. This was a bread and butter issue which reached into every “demographics” pocketbook including accepting the demo-com definition of hyphenated African-Hispanic -Americans . .The impact of Supreme Court Appointments.. 18,000 new IRS agents and on and on. . Some were very briefly touched most weren’t and Benghazi/ foreign policy was left to languish. Then there is Obama’s personal extravagance and behavior refusing to visit Nashville after its disaster showing up at New Orleans after Mitt visited it. Even after the Christi thing if that was brought up it would have blunted the impact.

Instead we got a sales pitch on executive ability but not the reason why one should toss the old model and buy his. That print and tv pitch , 20 million new jobs, was given a discrarded dose of skepticism .

In addition Rove who I understand was handling the Charter PAC senate campaign played games. His material never warned voters that IF OBAMA GETS RE-ELECTED AND SENATE CONTROL REMAINED . .. OBAMACARE AND ALL THE TAX INCREASES THAT GO WITH IT WILL NEVER GET REPEALED Let alone tie into or cover the formentioned grape shot which would have perhaps changed that body. I don’t recall any of that material directed toward that fact.

Finally they didn’t believe the polls which turned out were dead on. Even going as far as setting up focus groups which could have looked into what’s going on . Even to the point of going out to local eateries and bars and eavesdrop into conversations and pick up on topics being discussed.(chat rooms twitter too contrived) They would have learned their turnout projections were off and the sence of urgency to get out the vote was diminished by their glowing projections and disbelief never mind ORCA which should have been tested. COMPLACENCY WAS ENCOURAGED BY THE MEDIA AND NOT COUNTER ACTED UPON

Our local small population (-8000) rural blue county GOP had at the outset good and growing attendence at their meetings 50 plus. At the meeting the Thursday before the election only about a dozen people showed up and I knew we were in trouble .

Nuts...This loss is inexcuseable, while I trully don’t believe Mitt Romney would ever continence losing, I’m begining to believe that most GOPE’s really didn’t want to see AHCA, (affordable health care act) otherwise known as ZerO care go ..


32 posted on 11/25/2012 4:59:20 PM PST by mosesdapoet ("A voice crying in the wilderness make When is the treatment of Amstreight for the way of the Lord")
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Social Security taxes are not instantly spent on someone else's entitlement.

They go to the Treasury, are credited to the Social Security system and then loaned to the US government.

It's a forced loan, of course, but it's not handled as a direct transfer payment from one individual to another.

Currently Social Security is owed something like 6 trillion bucks by the government.

Remember, too, recipients of Social Security do not consider it an entitlement. Even some of the believers in the '47 percent' meme don't think of it as an entitlement.

About 99% of the time folks who imagine strange things about Social Security are confounding it with Supplemental Security Income (SSI) ~ an entirely different program paid for directly from the Treasury out of borrowed money, or taxes ~ if there are still taxes being paid somewhere.

The federal government also rents buildings, rents equipment, makes long term purchase agreements from manufacturers of all sorts of things, and buys stuff. Much of that activity involves the government writing somebody a check ~ Boeing aircraft are purchased this way. That doesn't make the employees of Boeing, or the owners, into welfare recipients.

Not to sound too terribly pedantic about precision in speech, but the 47% idea didn't do Romney much good. If you want to win a debate ~ and win an election ~ what you want to do is talk about the issues not the psychological pathologies of the participants, or other people. They know their nuts ~ they just don't want to talk about it in public ~ no sense you letting them know that you know that you are all nuts.

It'll make for a cleaner debate and won't PO people who've spent 50 years paying for Social Security!

34 posted on 11/25/2012 5:12:49 PM PST by muawiyah
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Won’t cost ‘em a nickel more that they used to spend. Oh, it won’t give ‘em a nickel’s additional amount of health care...neither...


36 posted on 11/25/2012 5:13:32 PM PST by stevem
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It is the will of Allah.


42 posted on 11/25/2012 5:27:14 PM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (This Message Contains Privileged Attorney-Client Communications)
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What do you mean “cost”? It’s free, the Food Stamp President said so, and it’s a right!


56 posted on 11/25/2012 5:54:36 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (The law of unintended consequences is an unforgiving and vindictive b!tch!)
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” - - - Even if the employer continues to offer insurance, the employee has to earn all the money that the employer uses to pay for it. - - - “

Great Economics 101 point.

Read more: http://medcitynews.com/2012/11/the-47-have-no-idea-how-much-healthcare-reform-will-cost-them/#ixzz2DITpnVvY


78 posted on 11/25/2012 7:53:29 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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