Skip to comments.The Ghosts of 1938 Still Haunt Our Foreign Policy
Posted on 11/26/2012 5:32:53 AM PST by SJackson
In a story describing President Obamas six conversations with Egyptian president Mohammed Morsi that led to the cease-fire between Israel and Hamas, the New York Times summarized Obamas estimation of Morsi. Obama told his aids he was impressed with the Egyptian leaders pragmatic confidence. He sensed an engineers precision with surprisingly little ideology. Obama considered Mr. Morsi a straight shooter who delivered on what he promised and did not promise what he could not deliver . . . This was somebody focused on solving problems.
Technocratic qualities like engineers precision and little ideology sound strange when describing the leader of an organization whose credo is Allah is our objective; the Prophet is our leader; the Quran is our law; Jihad is our way; dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope. And Obamas praise is oddly obtuse about the tactical reasons for Morsis cooperation. A near-broke Egypt has over $9 billion in foreign aid pending, and Morsis government has not yet consolidated its own power or its control over the military. Given the international prestige that has accrued to Morsi for his role a mediator in the conflict, it should surprise no one that he would make a short-term tactical retreat in order to buy Egypt time until it can more confidently flex its Islamist muscles on behalf of its ideological offspring Hamas, and pursue its own goal to create a powerful and expansive Islamic state governed by sharia, then the sharia, and finally the sharia, as Morsi has defined his aims.
Perhaps the Presidents comments were just diplomatic public relations, though they are consistent with Obamas previous misunderstanding and confusion about the nature of Islam particularly evident in his 2009 Cairo speech. But they remind me of another great-power leader who drastically underestimated an aggressor and worsened the conflict he was trying to resolve.
In 1938, Neville Chamberlain reported back to his cabinet on the second of the three meetings he held with Adolph Hitler that make up the Munich debacle. Chamberlain said he was satisfied Hitler was speaking the truth about the resolution of the Sudeten crisis as the road to peacejust as today Western leaders believe Muslims who say resolving the Israel-Arab conflict will make jihadist terror disappear. Of course, the Palestinians are as much a pretext for the jihadists aggression as the Sudeten Germans were for Hitlers. Indulging an over-estimation of his powers of personal persuasion, Chamberlain claimed, He had established some degree of personal influence over Herr Hitler. Remember when we were told that Obamas Muslim name and admiration for Islam would create a new beginning between the United States and Muslims around the world . . . based upon mutual interest and mutual respect, as he said in Cairo, and thus advance American interests? At the next meeting Chamberlain assured his cabinet that Hitler would not deliberately deceive a man whom he respected and with whom he had been in negotiation, and he was sure that Herr Hitler now felt some respect for him. When Herr Hitler announced that he meant to do something it was certain that he would do it. Doesnt this sound like Obamas comments above that Morsi is a straight shooter who delivered on what he promised?
Of course, in reality Hitler had nothing but contempt for Chamberlain and the ease with which he had gulled the Prime Minister, whom he threatened to kick in the stomach and called a little worm. Obama and Americas low approval throughout the Middle Eastlower than when the hated George Bush left officesuggest Obama has earned a similar contempt. Remember the chant of the 9/11 rioters at our embassy in Cairo: Obama, Obama, we are all Osama?
Hitlers true aims were no more a secret then than are the Muslim Brotherhoods are today, so ignorance cannot excuse either Chamberlain or Obama. For nearly a decade British ambassadors had sent reports to London about the nature of Nazism and Hitler. In 1933 Sir Horace Rumbold summarized Hitlers frequent derogatory remarks about such nonsensical ideas as international understanding, peace pacts, and spirit of Locarno [the 1928 multi-national treaty that banned war, as the New York Times put it], the policy of conciliation, and the like. He described the Nazi German belief that only brute force can ensure the survival of the race, and that the young must be educated to the maximum of aggressiveness and be implanted with manly courage and passionate hatred. Rumbolds successor Sir Eric Phipps prophetically reported, If [Hitler] finds that he arouses no real opposition, the tempo of his advance will increase and will be checked only by the knowledge that the Powers who desire peace are also strong enough to enforce it.
Likewise the Muslim Brotherhoods similar ideology of violence and subversion as the tools to advance its Islamist agenda has been clear ever since its creation by Hassan al-Banna in 1928. If anyone believes the tactical deception that the Brotherhood has renounced violence and so is moderate and pragmatic, listen to the speeches of the Brotherhoods spiritual leader Yusuf al-Qaradawi, who was welcomed back to Egypt from exile after the fall of Mubarak. Qaradawi sanctions violent jihad including martyrdom operations, the recreation of the Islamic Caliphate, the conquest by jihad of Europe and America, the universal application of sharia law, and suicide bombings of Israeli Jews including women and children. And he has expressed admiration for Hitler and the holocaust, about which he has said, This was a divine punishment for them [the Jews]. Allah willing, the next time will be at the hand of the believers.
And if you think the Egyptian rebellion against Mubarak was about creating democracy, consider Morsis remarks made in May 2012 at a televised campaign rally. There he recited the Brotherhoods credo line by line as the crowd repeated his words, including Jihad is our path and Death for the sake of Allah is our most lofty aspiration. As for the line the Quran is our law, a day after the cease-fire, Morsi cashed in on the gushing praise from Hillary Clinton and Obama, and decreed for himself sweeping dictatorial powers that mean, as his spokesman put it, The constitutional declarations, decisions and laws issued by the president are final and not subject to appeal. An important effect of this power-grab is to neutralize the judiciary and thus prevent it from interfering with the Islamist-dominated assembly now writing a constitution likely to enshrine sharia law. Unless current protests in Egypt erupt into a civil war that the Muslim Brotherhood loses, Morsi is now closer to fulfilling the promise he made at that same May campaign rally: This nation will enjoy blessing and revival only through the Islamic sharia. I take an oath before Allah and before you all that regardless of the actual text [of the constitution] . . . Allah willing, the text will truly reflect [the sharia], as will be agreed upon by the Egyptian people, by the Islamic scholars, and by legal and constitutional experts . . . Rejoice and rest assured that this people will not accept a text that does not reflect the true meaning of the Islamic sharia as a text to be implemented and as a platform.
Given the ample evidence of the Islamists true beliefs and aims, why do so many Westerners misread them and their leaders as badly as Chamberlain misread Hitler? One obvious reason is the failure of imagination that allows many in the West to project their own ideals and goals on people who have very different ones. Since for us religion has been reduced to a private lifestyle choice and banished from the public square, we assume other peoples are equally casual about their faith. Because we prize personal freedom and material well being as the highest goods, we interpret revolutions against dictators as based on the desire for political freedom and economic development rather than on goals like a government consistent with illiberal and intolerant religious laws. In short, we think the whole world is comprised of peoples who are embryonic Westerners just waiting for conditions to change so that they can be and live like us. Hence we dismiss all evidence that contradicts that questionable assumption, or misinterpret it as mere rhetoric.
Given the high price paid for Englands failure to take seriously Hitlers professed beliefs and aims, youd think that by now we would have learned to believe an aggressor when he says he wants to destroy us, and to accept that negotiation and engagement absent a credible threat of force are futile. The Munich analogy may be overused, but the chronic failure to learn from its mistakes means we still need to be reminded of its lessons.
And, on another note, there’s a long standing link between the Muslim Brotherhood and Hitler’s Nazi party.
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Obama is not Neville Chamberlain. He is Eva Braun.
I am reading a good book right now. It has a lot about the muzzie mind and the Koran in it. The book basically says that muzzies lie to get what they want and it is not a lie to lie to non-muzzie believers. They can sign all the peace treaties they want, but none are binding. When they reach the point where they have the upper hand, they can break the treaty without cause. They are based on lies, based on a false god. Their lives are in the 7th century. They will always be there. They will bring all of the world down to that level if they take over various counties. Obama is an aider and abettor to them. He is one of them. He is one of the one world government. Every move he makes is designed for one thing. Too bring America down, so that the one world government can easily take over America. He is going to cripple the military. That is so that we cannot defend ourselves and cannot stop the take over. He will sign the UN gun treaty and attempt to take away our private arms. Jail, prison, the FEMA interment camps await those that do not turn them in. Civil war here will bring his mega orders that he has signed into play and he can rule without congress, courts or anyone stopping him. Those who are sitting on their butts and do not understand this are crazy. I would safely bet that 85-90% of Americans have no idea what is going on. AND, do not care. As long as it is free. They do not care.
I wonder who fed Hussein the lines engineers precision and little ideology?
Surreal that a man who allegedly was just re-elected to a second term as POTUS could be either so blind or be such a fraud as to make this statement about someone like Morsi who is known to be connected to the Muslim Brotherhood.
Of course, the New York Slimes is very happy to quote him as if all is fine and dandy.
There is one thing and one thing only that led to the cease fire. M1 Abrahams tanks on the Gaza border and the will to do something with them. Muslims are bullies and will run screaming if anyone fights back.
Obama can talk till he is blue in the face, the Muslims dont mind, usually they walk away with free goodies everytime. After they get the goodies, they can always go back to killing the infidels.
First you beat the cow, then you milk it, then you beat the cow, then you milk it...
Never mind that little power grab. We all love to grab power. Let me know how it feels when your troops round up opposition leaders and execute them. I’ve always wanted to do that, only the pesky critters are still armed.
One thing I know: There is no way I will ever let my sons go fight and die in a war that could have been avoided if these idiots had not been so intent on voting themselves more free stuff.