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Decisive action against Obama's left-wing 'trolls'
WND ^ | November 25, 2012 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 11/26/2012 8:14:10 AM PST by detective

WND Internet forum moderators have conducted extensive studies of leftist, pro-Obama “trolls” who post misinformation.

In the process, the moderators have blocked from WND forums participants who post abusive language aimed at angering or otherwise insulting forum members, WND authors, management and staff.

Trolls appear to perform a “disinformation” function typical of counter-intelligence efforts by intelligence agencies to confuse political enemies and refute or deflect opposing political views that are less susceptible to refutation by more traditional methods of debate and argumentation.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: obama; trolls
Interesting article about paid trolls. People who are given the job title "Online Communications Associate" and are paid to go on websites and provide disinformation, personal insults and pro-Obama propaganda.

I have run into several people on FR who fit that description. I have seen people use name calling, personal attacks and no logic or reason to their conversation. I don't know if they were paid or not.

1 posted on 11/26/2012 8:14:18 AM PST by detective
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To: detective
“moderators have blocked from WND forums participants who post abusive language aimed at angering or otherwise insulting forum members, WND authors, management and staff.’

WND should prepare for the obligatory aclu lawsuit.

2 posted on 11/26/2012 8:19:19 AM PST by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: detective
This has been going on since AT LEAST 2008. Andrew Breitbart nailed them in this column published in the Washington Times in March 2009:

BREITBART: Online activists on the right, unite!

3 posted on 11/26/2012 8:19:54 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: detective

The devision and supporting of the weakest candidite (Romney) was clear evidence of this.


4 posted on 11/26/2012 8:20:11 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: detective

There are plenty of “moderate” trolls working the forums as well. In fact they were starting a good many threads here at FR during the primary season.

They spent a lot of time being concerned about the conservative candidates.


5 posted on 11/26/2012 8:22:34 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Jewbacca

“The devision and supporting of the weakest candidite (Romney) was clear evidence of this.”

You may have a point here.


6 posted on 11/26/2012 8:23:43 AM PST by MichaelCorleone ('We the People' can and will take this country back...starting today.)
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To: Jewbacca
supporting of the weakest candidite (Romney) was clear evidence of this.
If he was the weakest, how did he win the nomination?
7 posted on 11/26/2012 8:32:21 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

Well in Michigan he tied Santorum but the state GOP changed the rules after the fact and gave the win to Romney.

That kind of thing helps.


8 posted on 11/26/2012 8:35:23 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
Well in Michigan he tied Santorum
But if he was the weakest, there shouldn't have even been a tie.
9 posted on 11/26/2012 8:38:16 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: detective; Admin Moderator; Jim Robertson

Paid left wing trolls have been a problem on conservative sites* for well over a decade.

Many are very overt and don’t hide the fact that they are on a suicide mission to disrupt and cause problems.

Others are very covert and use nuances like “this worries me as a conservative” whenever their beloved left wing gets nailed/identified in lies or worse.

Some on this site are sleepers and only appear before elections to slander and lie about our candidates. They often have a good back up group that gets notified by pings or freepmail to join in the bashing fun.

*Before I joined FR, the paid pretend to be trolls had become a severe problem on another site. A conservativ IT guy apparently hacked the site and got the email addresses of the offenders.

Then, he sent copies of their emails to the owners of the companies they worked for managers if they worked for some form of government. I don’t know if they got fired. I do know that they stopped posting their poison, very quickly after their bosses or managers were notified.

Our mods do a good job with most of the disturbers. Often the disturbers are Zapped before the Viking Kitties sink their claws into the vermin.


10 posted on 11/26/2012 8:38:55 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Tagline space for rent to pay for some of my extra taxes the next 4 years!)
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To: cripplecreek
The media gave him Iowa, when it turns out Santorum took it. That part, the media didn't talk so much about. The perception was there.

In Virginia, the nomination rules blocked all but 2 candidates.

In Florida, who voted early, and was supposed to have half of its delegates not seated... well, that was just ignored.

Lots of hanky panky going on, not to mention Rove and machine badmouthing conservatives with the support of the MSM.

/johnny

11 posted on 11/26/2012 8:40:33 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: oh8eleven

Nice diversion.

You may go now.


12 posted on 11/26/2012 8:41:28 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: oh8eleven

“If he was the weakest, how did he win the nomination?”

Been away this year?

It was well covered here for months how establishment Republicans destroyed Romney’s competition.


13 posted on 11/26/2012 8:44:41 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Both Santorum and Gingrich said essentially the same thing when they dropped out. The media had made their "Inevitable" choice and fundraising became impossible. After all, why donate to can candidate when another is perceived as the clear winner?

The Michigan Republican Party (MRP) Credentials Committee voted 4-2 last night to give Mitt Romney both of the state's at-large delegates, State Policy Committee Chair Mike Cox told MIRS today.

Cox was one of two "no" votes on the committee which met via telephone, along with attorney Eric Doster The "yes" votes included GOP National Committeeman Saul Anuzis, a Romney supporter, and MRP Chair Bobby Schostak.

That would put the delegate split at 16 for Romney and 14 for Rick Santorum, after each candidate won 14 delegates apiece in those divided by Michigan's 14 congressional districts.

As MIRS first reported on Wednesday, the MRP was delaying a final decision on the delegate split until after consulting with attorneys.

Cox said that according to the MRP rules, Santorum and Romney should each get one of Michigan's two at-large delegates based on their take of the popular vote.

"I supported Mitt, but the vote was clearly wrong," Cox said of the Credentials Committee. "It's kind of like Third World voting. We published rules and then we voted to change the rules."


Because The Narrative Cannot Survive A Rewrite
14 posted on 11/26/2012 8:45:00 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Syncro
You might find this enlightening.

/johnny

15 posted on 11/26/2012 8:45:12 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: detective

These lefty trolls-for-hire are all over the place.

It’s so obvious that they’re paid by Media Matters or Move.On. They spew their pathetic little script of misinformation and righteous indignation. I used to get angry and want to respond. Now I just laugh.

But hey, it’s a job. Probably the only one these sad little trolls have ever had.


16 posted on 11/26/2012 8:51:00 AM PST by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: detective

The Raleigh News & Observer’s blogger Nazi’s are a great example of how “free speech” works in a libtard world. I’ve been kicked off their site about 10 times under various names for simply defending myself against people who engaged in name calling and personal attacks. I never “attacked” anybody unless they attacked me first. And I never used profanity. Yet the libtards I was counteracting would get a free pass for almost anything short of a death threat.

I once got kicked off for giving examples of the name calling and threats libs made against Michele Malkin. They absolutely will not tolerate the truth if it exposes the liberal mindset for intolerance and hate.


17 posted on 11/26/2012 8:51:29 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: oh8eleven

He had outside help whose goal it was to promote the weakest candidate.

He also lied and slandered every other Republican candidate, but practically fellated Obama.


18 posted on 11/26/2012 8:52:41 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: treetopsandroofs
It was well covered here for months how establishment Republicans destroyed Romney’s competition.
But, but, he was the WEAKEST. LOL ...
19 posted on 11/26/2012 8:53:25 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: cripplecreek
Nice diversion. You may go now.
You can't argue the facts so I have to go? Gheeze, talk about weak. LOL ...
20 posted on 11/26/2012 8:55:51 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

he won the nomination because the overall turnout in the primaries was less than 20%...

mathematically, 10% of registered republicans put his name on the ballot..

there is no other excuse


21 posted on 11/26/2012 8:56:56 AM PST by joe fonebone (The clueless... they walk among us, and they vote...)
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To: detective; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale; ...
RE :”Interesting article about paid trolls. People who are given the job title “Online Communications Associate” and are paid to go on websites and provide disinformation, personal insults and pro-Obama propaganda.
I have run into several people on FR who fit that description. I have seen people use name calling, personal attacks and no logic or reason to their conversation. I don't know if they were paid or not. “

I think the pro-Obama stuff would stand out but the name calling and personal attacks could be Dems or just authentic zealot nut-bags.

If I was going to troll a Dems site I would post there that the whole system is rigged and so there was no point in voting anymore, after a R victory like 2004.

I would demand that the Dems in congress be so aggressive that they p most voters off, tell them to demand a bunch of crazy stuff like block the R winner from being confirmed.

And the trick is to walk that fine line between the aggressive lib and the total psycho who gets booted off. And I have seen a few booted off for calling most of the other members traitors or cowards, and calling for say racial reparations in a bill in posted vanities.

22 posted on 11/26/2012 8:57:24 AM PST by sickoflibs (Has Bohner caved to Obama again yet?)
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To: Darksheare; TheOldLady

Interesting data.


23 posted on 11/26/2012 8:57:55 AM PST by moose07 (The truth will out, one day.)
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To: Jewbacca
He had outside help whose goal it was to promote the weakest candidate.
Ah yes, the old "outside help" trick.
24 posted on 11/26/2012 8:58:28 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: joe fonebone
mathematically, 10% of registered republicans put his name on the ballot
That means others received less, so how could he be the weakest? Sorry, does not compute.
25 posted on 11/26/2012 9:01:24 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Jewbacca
Romney beat McCain by nearly 10 points in Michigan back in 08 but just barely squeaked out a tie over Santorum with a last minute primary day attack on Santorum for doing exactly what he him self was doing in reaching out to union members.

In the end, Rush was right. Romney won his primaries in places that weren't going to vote for him while ignoring the base.

Rush: Romney is winning like a liberal
26 posted on 11/26/2012 9:07:51 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
Well, Team Romney's "etch-a-sketch" strategy all along was to either undermine or carpet bomb any potential rivals early on, garner just enough Conservative votes to get through the primaries, and then swing left to win the general election with party-first ABOs, mushy independents, and supposedly disaffected democRats.

They gambled that they did not need the Conservative base.

They gambled wrong.

27 posted on 11/26/2012 9:17:40 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: detective

I have run in to them too, on Topix.com. They begin by posting the Dem. talking points for the day, written to appear as though the “local” poster wrote them as his or her own thoughts. The same person has an endless arsenal of names they use to give the appearance of strength in numbers.
When the talking points are refuted with facts, they resort to name calling and vulgarity, or my personal favorite, insisting my information source is unacceptable.


28 posted on 11/26/2012 9:21:23 AM PST by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: detective

I visit a lot of different Conservative sites. During the McCain campaign, I was almost 100% sure that trolls were making it difficult or impossible to discussion anything. At that time, they would just make random replies. The amount of this diminished until the last campaign cycle. It then restarted with a lot more and longer posts. What frightens me is that after the election, I find it intensifying. At almost any Conservative site, there is always a liberal trashing whatever the conservatives say. I see a clear pattern. If someone says anything negative about Obama, the troll keeps post trash about Bush/and or Republicans. Liberals believe that they have the right to everything, and that conservatives are less equal than they are. They are shameless bullies and not very bright. But they have an enduring sense of superiority and entitlement. They are winning. We need wake up to their tactics, or we will lose, everything.


29 posted on 11/26/2012 9:22:57 AM PST by Essie
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To: Timber Rattler

My democrat sister in Livonia said that Romney door knockers came to her house at least 4 different times. She told them she was an idiot (democrat) and they told her that she shouldn’t worry about Romney being an anti woman extremist like Santorum. “Romney will protect your reproductive rights”


30 posted on 11/26/2012 9:24:32 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: oh8eleven

It might be more accurate to say he was the weakest for purposes of the general. Weakness in that sense could not be measured in pure primary vote count, because it was a prediction of fitness for a future condition.

Another way to look at it is category rather than individual. Romney was the dominant liberal Republican, and that category of primary candidate never got the preponderance of primary voter support. As a category, the clear winner was the composite conservative candidate. For example, if Palin had been in the race, she would have likely zeroed out support for all the other conservative candidates, making it a straight up contest between her and Mitt, which I believe she would have won.


31 posted on 11/26/2012 9:26:13 AM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Wiser now

Its a progressive tactic called “Manufactured consent”. Basically to make you feel wildly outnumbered by posting all over the place.

Watch the national popular vote threads posted here at FR. There’s one poster who posts the exact word for word things all over the internet under multiple names.


32 posted on 11/26/2012 9:28:30 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: moose07; TheOldLady

Yes, thanks for the ping!


33 posted on 11/26/2012 9:29:14 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Wiser now

Trolls are everywhere, even on local town forums. We know of two instances where several names were posting 24 hours a day, having conversations with themselves. Interesting to see the same spelling peculiarities showing up in multiple posts.

Instance one was an investment group trying to turn a little piper cub airport into a giant air cargo facility. Instance two was the teachers’ union trying to smear Chris Christie. Really, imagine how cheap and effective this is. Hire someone’s unemployed brother-in-law to have the forum window open on his computer, and just chime in at any time to disrupt actual dialogs. And give three brothers-in-law the same set of passwords and you have 24-hour coverage. I think some of them get paid by the post.


34 posted on 11/26/2012 9:39:59 AM PST by duckworth (Perhaps instant karma's going to get you. Perhaps not.)
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To: oh8eleven; cripplecreek

In 2006 Romney had a strategy of shaping the primary by keeping out other major candidates by having an early series of big money fundraisers and making it clear that he would be using his own vast wealth to self fund, when needed, that strategy worked and no other major players entered.

Romney broke records in spending, and self funded with about 45 million of his own dollars, which he could inject at the most opportune times, of his own choosing, even when fund raising went south, Romney still ended up losing to two totally unfunded, mediocre figures, Huckabee and Senator McCain

Naturally 2012 was a forgone conclusion, and the establishment was constantly working against Palin to make sure that she wouldn’t disrupt the game. As it was, no big boys ran, since Romney was clearly the well funded, machine candidate.

2012 was a replay of 2008, with Bachmann no serious threat, rookie Cain, same thing, Santorum had been booted from the Senate with a history making 17 point loss, Gingrich who hadn’t held office for many years was a last minute fill-in for conservatives similar to Fred Thompson in 2008, none of the challengers were the kind of major figures with organizations to take on Mitt’s continuous presidential campaign machine, which had been operating for 7 years.

Romney’s inertia launched in 2006, was unstoppable, his campaign and his establishment support of the party and of the national media, could only have been broken by a charismatic, game changing, Reagan/Palin type figure charging through the massive gaping hole that was open on Romney’s right flank.

Rick Perry, the SECEDE TEXAS, GUN WAVING swashbuckler. closed that gap with his sudden, puzzling, half hearted feint at the role before he quickly disappeared, having done nothing but having removed Romney’s vulnerable weak spot.

Romney was the result of deep, institutionalized, machine politics by the national party and the national media, and with full support of the democrats, who all were on the same page, of who the 2012 candidate was going to be.


35 posted on 11/26/2012 10:07:33 AM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischers successful run in Nebraska)
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To: ansel12; oh8eleven; cripplecreek

They did try to do the same thing with Guiliani in the past.


36 posted on 11/26/2012 10:21:15 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: detective; moose07; Darksheare

The evidence for trolls’ being active on Conservative sites has been obvious for quite some time. Thank you for providing the details at WND, and all on one page. Excellent.

Thank you for the ping, Moose07.

Hi, Darks.


37 posted on 11/26/2012 11:25:57 AM PST by TheOldLady
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To: Darksheare

Romney is more of a relentless machine of wealth and power than Giuliani.

Mitt Romney was born into a powerful dynasty of Mormon royalty, and was the son of a rich and powerful presidential candidate and a Senate candidate mother, Giulini just didn’t have that same oomf, to carry him past a Mitt Romney, who powered out Giuliani in the 2008 primary process.


38 posted on 11/26/2012 12:11:03 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischers successful run in Nebraska)
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To: detective

I have had many encounters with these posters on Yahoo, Politico, Fox (which doesn’t show me the comments sections anymore), and the Breitbart sites.

They are rude, full of lies, and will stalk you if you beat them enough. I had a couple of them stalking me from news article to news article. They must have been allowed to view hidden user info too because I don’t show them my state/location yet one or two were able to see that info even though I had it blocked (according to the privacy settings on Yahoo).

Yes, you are correct. I’ve encountered a couple of them on FR as well. They usually will attack a poster as a newbie if they see you have a newer account. That is usually the first thing they try to use to discredit a poster on FR. From there they will move on to personal attacks.

Heck. I even have outed one on a CAS pro-gun forum.

They should be horsewhipped. Too bad I don’t have a horse.


39 posted on 11/26/2012 12:19:29 PM PST by History Repeats (sic transit gloria mundi)
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To: butterdezillion; little jeremiah
Does this sound like anyone you have encountered on FR? I think there are hundreds, perhaps thousands, of paid trolls out there. Other than name calling and personal insults they seem to accuse or imply racism a lot. They also claim to be aware of information which does not exist. They also cite MSM sources as irrefutably true and accuse any other information as being proof of you being mentally unbalance or a nutcase.
40 posted on 11/26/2012 1:07:24 PM PST by detective
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To: TheOldLady

Hello.


41 posted on 11/26/2012 1:07:39 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: cripplecreek
"My democrat sister in Livonia said that Romney door knockers came to her house at least 4 different times. She told them she was an idiot (democrat)"

Stealing that! Its really good.

42 posted on 11/26/2012 1:07:48 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: ansel12

The shrieking insultomonkies that told the rest of us we were ignorant savages for not supporting him in the primaries were tehsame.
Heck, they told us they didn’t need conservatives at all.
[So why were they trying to bully us into voting for him then?]

Same behavior in support of Guiliani, same behavior in support of Romney.
Only this time around, Romney had been preordained by the RNC to be the candidate.
Guiliani didn’t have any such ‘dispensation’ at the time.

I suspect they may dust him off for 2016.
The RNC seems to want to commit suicide by RINOcracy.


43 posted on 11/26/2012 1:11:26 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Oh I doubt you are getting paid to chase new posters away and to discourage postings of important threads about lowlifes in mobs attacking innocent individuals.

It’s more of a power trip IMO.

But a bit too PC for a cutting edge website like Free Republic.


44 posted on 11/26/2012 1:16:48 PM PST by Syncro (The Tea Party is Dead-->MSM/Dems/GOP-e -- LONG LIVE THE TEA PARTY!)
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To: detective
I have seen people use name calling, personal attacks and no logic or reason to their conversation

Oh well if that is all it takes I could be raking in the money.

Well done. Here are the test results: You are a horrible person. I'm serious, that's what it says: "A horrible person." We weren't even testing for that.

Don't let that horrible-person thing discourage you. It's just a data point. If it makes you feel any better, science has now validated your birth mother's decision to abandon you on a doorstep.

Most people emerge from suspension terribly undernourished. I want to congratulate you on beating the odds and somehow managing to pack on a few pounds.

As an impartial collaboration facilitator, it would be unfair of me to name my favorite member of your team. However, it's perfectly fair to hint at it in a way that my least favorite probably isn't smart enough to understand. Rhymeswithglue. Orange, you are doing very well. All right, so that last test was seriously disappointing.

Apparently, being civil isn't motivating you, so let's try it her way, all right, fatty? Adopted... fatty! Fatty, fatty no parents?

I feel awful about that surprise. Tell you what, let's give your parents a call right now. [phone dialing and ringing; in a stranger, lower voice] The birth parents you are trying to reach do not love you. Please hang up. [Dial tone; normal voice] Oh, that's sad. But impressive. Maybe they worked at the phone company.

You look ugly in that jumpsuit. That's not my opinion; it's right here on your fact sheet. They said on everyone else it looked fine, but on you, it looked hideous. But still what does an old engineer know about fashion? Oh, wait, it's a she. Still, what does she know about - oh, wait. She has a medical degree. In fashion. From France.


45 posted on 11/26/2012 1:17:40 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: cripplecreek; All
Its a progressive tactic called “Manufactured consent”. Basically to make you feel wildly outnumbered by posting all over the place.

Which in turn is a greatly expanded and enhanced variation of the old Communist "Diamond Tactic" of turning over crowds.

How Collectivists Use the Diamond Tactic To Sway Public Meetings and How to Thwart Them

46 posted on 11/26/2012 2:19:59 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler

They all stem from the same period of American history and almost exclusively from Edward Bernays. I’ve done a fairly extensive study of the tactics and I’m not afraid to expose them which is really the best defense against it.

We used to have a guy showing up at township meetings to complain about all the “fracking” going on in the area and he wanted to stop it. He seemed like an intelligent guy and should know better than to confuse fracking with injection wells.

I did some digging on the guy and found that he’s an attorney who doesn’t even live in this county and specializes in zoning law and was on retainer for the Raisin Vally land trust. I handed off the info to a couple of the township council members who took turns exposing and discrediting him in the public meeting.

He was petty shocked that us ignernt hillbillies were capable of using them there fancy addin machines called computers. He never came back.


47 posted on 11/26/2012 2:33:49 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: detective

I’ve seen lots and lots, the really crude ones seem to eventually get banned, but others who are a bit more subtle (but obvious if you look at more than two comments of theirs) still stink up the place.


48 posted on 11/26/2012 4:34:53 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: detective

Actually some may not be hirelings but just volunteers.


49 posted on 11/26/2012 4:36:06 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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