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Red-blooded America runs deep in 'Red Dawn' - film liberal critics love to hate (WOLVERINES!!)
WND ^ | November 25, 2012 | Drew Zahn

Posted on 11/26/2012 10:29:50 AM PST by Perseverando

Out of curiosity, I took a look at how film critics from other newspapers and publications reviewed the new “Red Dawn,” a remake of the 1984 cult classic about teenagers taking up guns and defending America from communist invaders.

You’d think from the critics’ condescending sneers that the remake is utter garbage.

“Preposterous,” said one critic of the remake’s premise that North Korea could invade the U.S. today. “Outdated,” said another, suggesting the plot line be relegated to the ancient Cold War and the once-upon-a-time Red Scare.

The only thing that’s “preposterous,” however, is the speed at which these obviously liberal critics leaped to dismiss the movie. I honestly, without hyperbole, wonder if some of them even watched it.

For starters, the movie explains that North Korea doesn’t invade without “help,” and that they used a cyber attack on the American financial system and an electromagnetic pulse weapon, or EMP, against the U.S. infrastructure. Furthermore, North Korea only invades the Pacific Northwest, while other enemies attack elsewhere. It’s not really that implausible.

Besides, the original film cast Cuba as the invading force – not the Soviet Union, as is commonly reported – so don’t talk to me about “preposterous.”

And as for “outdated,” the Red Scare is far from over, as many Americans outside the leftist worldview recognize. It’s just that the threat of communism in the U.S. now comes from our own public universities, instead of Moscow.

So politically biased bashing aside, let’s look at the film a little more honestly, shall we?

“Red Dawn” is indeed a remake, provoking many of the same themes and even revisiting some of the same scenes as the original (“The chair is against the wall; the chair is against the wall,” drinking deer blood, “Wolverines!” and so on). It tells the story

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: coldwar; communists; cw2; hollywood; moviereview; nknukes; northkorea; patriotism; proamerica; reddawn; wolverines
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Wolverines all over again!
1 posted on 11/26/2012 10:30:00 AM PST by Perseverando
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To: Perseverando

Saw it over the weekend. Better than the original, but still a stretch.


2 posted on 11/26/2012 10:32:40 AM PST by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: Perseverando

Has anyone tried to rent or buy the original 1984 Red Dawn? It is like the film does not exist. As far as I can tell it is only available via special order. I wanted my kids to see the original before they saw the new version.


3 posted on 11/26/2012 10:34:06 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: Perseverando

This has got to be one of the dumbest movies ever. At least in Red Dawn 1 we were overrun by a powerful country,,,the USSR. But North Korea? Sheesh.


4 posted on 11/26/2012 10:35:16 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: Perseverando

When are we going to see a “Blue Dawn” movie?

The plot would be marxist enemies within that attempt to infiltrate into power by calling themselves progressives...
Sounds like fiction, but I think it might be plausible to movie audiences...


5 posted on 11/26/2012 10:38:24 AM PST by C210N (In favor of private rights and public happiness)
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To: Perseverando; chessplayer

I believe the invading force was supposed to be Chinese, until political correctness forced N.Korea to the fore.


6 posted on 11/26/2012 10:39:04 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Perseverando

> Besides, the original film cast Cuba as the invading force – not the Soviet Union, as is commonly reported – so don’t talk to me about “preposterous.”

That’s not accurate. The Soviets were the primary opponent, with it being mentioned that Cubans posed as illegals that sneaked across the border to sabotage.


7 posted on 11/26/2012 10:39:04 AM PST by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: Perseverando

The original got the same reviews from the same leftie critics.


8 posted on 11/26/2012 10:39:30 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: chessplayer

In the original it was Cuban, Honduran, and Nicaraguan forces coming up through Mexico. The initial soldiers invading were Hispanic. The Soviets came in later and followed their initial push after strategic strikes that crippled the US.


9 posted on 11/26/2012 10:40:05 AM PST by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: chessplayer
From the article:

For starters, the movie explains that North Korea doesn’t invade without “help,” and that they used a cyber attack on the American financial system and an electromagnetic pulse weapon, or EMP, against the U.S. infrastructure. Furthermore, North Korea only invades the Pacific Northwest, while other enemies attack elsewhere. It’s not really that implausible.

Besides, the original film cast Cuba as the invading force – not the Soviet Union, as is commonly reported – so don’t talk to me about “preposterous.”

10 posted on 11/26/2012 10:40:05 AM PST by Perseverando (Gun control? It's the OBOTS who are filling up prisons for violent crimes, not the Tea Party.)
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To: taxcontrol

It’s been on TV almost constantly lately.


11 posted on 11/26/2012 10:40:32 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: chessplayer
The invaders were supposed to be the Chinese. However, the film makers wanted to sell this movie to the Chinese market so that had to pull it from distribution and remake it so that the Chinese invaders were replaced with North Koreans.

If it's preposterous it is because of the kowtowing of greedy "capitalists" to the Chicoms.

Sad. Truly sad.

12 posted on 11/26/2012 10:40:57 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: 6ppc

I would have made the movie like this: Communists overtake the Democrat party and slowly change the demographics of the country, then they overtake the Republican party which allows a foreign born Islamic communist to be unconstitutionally elected as POTUS and then elected again to a 2nd term in which he further erodes the constitution and before you know it Sharia law is instituted and this is where the Wolverines fight back. But who would ever believe it? Ridiculous plot!


13 posted on 11/26/2012 10:41:11 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: spetznaz

And the Chinese were the “good guys” in the first one.


14 posted on 11/26/2012 10:41:33 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

North Korea has about as much chance of invading the US as the Duchy of Grand Fenwick.


15 posted on 11/26/2012 10:42:57 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Perseverando

I LOVED the original. Saw this over the weekend. Didn’t like it.


16 posted on 11/26/2012 10:43:39 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: taxcontrol

It’s available on iTunes, $2.99 standard, $3.99 high def.


17 posted on 11/26/2012 10:44:06 AM PST by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: C210N
When are we going to see a “Blue Dawn” movie?

The plot would be marxist enemies within that attempt to infiltrate into power by calling themselves progressives... Sounds like fiction, but I think it might be plausible to movie audiences...

What a coincidence! I Just checked the news on my favorite website, FR. They're heeerrree!!!!!

18 posted on 11/26/2012 10:45:09 AM PST by Perseverando (Gun control? It's the OBOTS who are filling up prisons for violent crimes, not the Tea Party.)
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To: dfwgator

“We’ve got 800 million screaming Chinese on our side.”

“Aren’t there a billion Chinese?”

“Not anymore.”

They also talk about England getting into the war. I imagine Canada got involved wince the USSR used their territory to stage.

The war was made out to be massively worldwide.


19 posted on 11/26/2012 10:49:56 AM PST by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: Perseverando

I know I am showing my age, but I remember movie critics referring to the first Red Dawn as; preposterous, ridiculous, silly and my favorite, “A right wing Reagan voter’s fantasy.”


20 posted on 11/26/2012 10:50:47 AM PST by Tupelo (Hunkered down & loading up)
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To: taxcontrol

Amazon.com Prime has it.


21 posted on 11/26/2012 10:51:02 AM PST by liege (I'll pay more for tomatoes...or lettuce.)
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To: Perseverando

North Korea can barely feed its army, they certainly don’t have the means to project force halfway around the world - even with “help” they would be entirely ineffective.


22 posted on 11/26/2012 10:54:44 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: taxcontrol

The original has been shown on cable quite a bit recently.

The kiddies watched it a couple of times (still hard to believe it came out when I was a high school lass).


23 posted on 11/26/2012 10:57:21 AM PST by LadyBuck (In the immortal words of Jean Paul Sartre, 'Au revoir, gopher')
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To: taxcontrol

Watched it on netflix about two weeks ago.


24 posted on 11/26/2012 10:58:12 AM PST by eastforker (Don't be ornery for Romney, instead Root for Newt!)
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To: chessplayer
This has got to be one of the dumbest movies ever. At least in Red Dawn 1 we were overrun by a powerful country,,,the USSR. But North Korea? Sheesh.

I'll withold my theatrical opinion until I see it for free when it is shown on regular TV. (I boycott all Hollywood unless it is a conservative film).

I agree with you on the premise, however. It seems to me someone in Hollywood decided to remake Red Dawn (title and all). Then they had to come up with a scenario that would fit the plot. No conceivable scenario fits any realistic situation that would have America being invaded. That said, we may not have to suspend belief for long. The scenario may become more believable in a few short years.

Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged seemed like far fetched fantasy in the 1950s. Look at us now. It's not so far fetched today. Norms and paradigms are shifting faster than the polar ice caps are melting. America's exceptionalism, influence and might may be just in our sunset.

25 posted on 11/26/2012 10:59:25 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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To: Perseverando

26 posted on 11/26/2012 11:01:46 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chessplayer
The invaders were originally supposed to be Chinese, before China bought the US instead of invading.

Also one of the Wolverines was suppose to be Asian-American "Erica Wu", changed to "Erica Martin" after Tasha From Home & Away was cast ("Asian: Australian, what's the difference? Obama doesn't know the difference, so why should we")*

"Damn you, Unidentified Asians Who Are Probably North Koreans. Damn you to hell."

Alternative theory; they thought they were getting Katya From Neighbours when they said "Get that Oz soap actress"

27 posted on 11/26/2012 11:05:34 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (By doubting we come to inquiry, and through inquiry we perceive truth. -; Peter Abelard)
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To: taxcontrol

http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Red_Dawn/896678?locale=en-US

http://www.amazon.com/Red-Dawn-Patrick-Swayze/dp/0792838041


28 posted on 11/26/2012 11:10:51 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Perseverando

Did not care for all the profanity...otherwise pretty good action...pretty much the same plot as the previous one.


29 posted on 11/26/2012 11:11:23 AM PST by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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To: Perseverando

The film is a silly idea. The communists have already taken over, without firing a shot.


30 posted on 11/26/2012 11:15:48 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Excellence

So....if I have an ITunes account I can download to my HDTV??? (Sorry, not the most tech savvy here)


31 posted on 11/26/2012 11:21:59 AM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: chessplayer
This has got to be one of the dumbest movies ever. At least in Red Dawn 1 we were overrun by a powerful country,,,the USSR. But North Korea? Sheesh.

This film casts the North Koreans as the enemy, but with a wink and a nudge. Everyone knows who the actual enemy nation is supposed to be and that the NKs are only there by proxy.

Ever see the HBO re-make of "On The Beach"? At least in that one, the Soviet role was credibly taken over by the Chinese.

32 posted on 11/26/2012 11:22:13 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda; Jack Black
I would have made the movie like this: Communists overtake the Democrat party and slowly change the demographics of the country, then they overtake the Republican party which allows a foreign born Islamic communist to be unconstitutionally elected as POTUS and then elected again to a 2nd term in which he further erodes the constitution and before you know it Sharia law is instituted and this is where the Wolverines fight back. But who would ever believe it? Ridiculous plot!

I believe your post borders on the minimum requirements for a "cwiiping."

33 posted on 11/26/2012 11:24:13 AM PST by Perseverando (Gun control? It's the OBOTS who are filling up prisons for violent crimes, not the Tea Party.)
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To: 6ppc

Better than the original

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Talk about damning with faint praise.

I’ll wait til they show it on AMC in between episodes of the Walking Dead (a slightly more plausible storyline).


34 posted on 11/26/2012 11:37:25 AM PST by dmz
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To: Longbow1969
North Korea can barely feed its army, they certainly don’t have the means to project force halfway around the world - even with “help” they would be entirely ineffective.

In the original "Red Dawn", it was explained that Mexico had fallen to a communist coup.

From the Article: "For starters, the movie explains that North Korea doesn’t invade without “help,” and that they used a cyber attack on the American financial system and an electromagnetic pulse weapon, or EMP, against the U.S. infrastructure. Furthermore, North Korea only invades the Pacific Northwest, while other enemies attack elsewhere. It’s not really that implausible."

Consider this scenario: Mexico goes communist. China and the Mexican communists seeks to help consolidate the revolution in Mexico, and import a whole bunch of North Koreans as mercenaries, as well as communist troops from around the world.

Given Mexico as a staging area, and time to transport troops and equipment using China's shipping fleet, an invasion of the US could plausibly be performed, which was one of the major points of the Monroe Doctrine -- to deny European powers a foothold in the Americans that could be used as an invasion staging area.

35 posted on 11/26/2012 11:38:04 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Perseverando

Too bad they didn’t have the guts to go with a realistic opposing force - like foaming-at-the-mouth muslims.


36 posted on 11/26/2012 11:45:58 AM PST by Iron Munro (Big Moo & Bronco 'Bama = Robbing From The Hood and Boy Blunder)
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To: Perseverando
Then there is this from 1952.


37 posted on 11/26/2012 11:57:31 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The parasites now outnumber the producers.)
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To: taxcontrol

It just came out on BluRay last month, Amazon guarantees delivery tomorrow. They also have it in their instant video stream. DVD is a little tougher, that’s been out of print a while.


38 posted on 11/26/2012 12:02:17 PM PST by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: TexasRepublic
*** The communists have already taken over, without firing a shot.***

Kind of like this old made for Tv movie. National Socialists are the villains. Still Socialists.

SHADOW ON THE LAND. (1968)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063589/

39 posted on 11/26/2012 12:03:42 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The parasites now outnumber the producers.)
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To: PapaBear3625

***it was explained that Mexico had fallen to a communist coup.***

There was an attempt back in 1968 or 1969. The Soviets were making plans for this when Mexico got wind of it. They quietly withdrew their diplomats from Moscow, then publicly expelled the USSR diplomats. Russia had no Mexican diplomats to expel as a result and had to lump it.


40 posted on 11/26/2012 12:07:00 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The parasites now outnumber the producers.)
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To: TexasRepublic
The film is a silly idea. The communists have already taken over, without firing a shot.

The movie is a misdirection. Americans are sent to bark up the wrong tree; it's a classical diversion. While the people are distracted, the real action is happening in smoke-filled back rooms. Those guys are anything but amateurs; they do it methodically and carefully, with science and math and technology. Growing a whole new generation of voters is not too slow for them.

41 posted on 11/26/2012 12:10:17 PM PST by Greysard
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To: Perseverando

“North Korea only invades the Pacific Northwest”

Why bother to invade? All they need to do is sail into Seattle and tie-up at the first pier they come to. They’ll be welcomed with open arms.


42 posted on 11/26/2012 12:10:34 PM PST by beelzepug ("Why bother creating wealth when you can just redistribute it?")
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To: taxcontrol

Amazon. Got it a few weeks ago.


43 posted on 11/26/2012 12:11:22 PM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: Perseverando
At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it?-- Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant, to step the Ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never!--All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest; with a Buonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years.

At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.

- Abraham Lincoln, Address Before the Young Men's Lyceum of Springfield, Illinois, January 27, 1838


44 posted on 11/26/2012 12:35:21 PM PST by Gritty (The can no longer can be kicked down the road. We're all out of road, there's only an abyss-Mk Steyn)
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To: taxcontrol
Has anyone tried to rent or buy the original 1984 Red Dawn? It is like the film does not exist.

They play it about 50 ntimes a month on cable. It was on last night.

45 posted on 11/26/2012 12:45:46 PM PST by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: Perseverando

I believe this was the opening description in the first one.

—SOVIET UNION SUFFERS WORST WHEAT HARVEST IN 55 YEARS.
—LABOR AND FOOD RIOTS IN POLAND. SOVIET TROOPS INVADE.
—CUBA AND NICARAGUA REACH TROOP STRENGTH GOALS OF 500,000. EL SALVADORE AND HONDURAS FALL.
—GREEN PARTY GAINS CONTROL OF WEST GERMAN PARLIAMENT. DEMADNS WITHDRAWAL OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS FROM EUROPEAN SOIL.
—MEXICO PLUNGED INTO REVOLUTION.
—NATO DISSOLVES. UNITED STATES STANDS ALONE.


46 posted on 11/26/2012 12:49:42 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischers successful run in Nebraska)
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To: Perseverando; All

It was on Netflix a few weeks ago. May still be.


47 posted on 11/26/2012 12:51:32 PM PST by gop4lyf (Socialism is the political dream of the unachiever, the excuse maker, and the lazy.)
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To: dfwgator
And the Chinese were the “good guys” in the first one.

They were nuked by the Soviets, but I don't think that they were good guys.

48 posted on 11/26/2012 12:58:56 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischers successful run in Nebraska)
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To: 6ppc

You must have been the only one. It did dismal this weekend. I guess everyone is a Twihard....lol.


49 posted on 11/26/2012 1:37:59 PM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: taxcontrol

I own a copy of it on DVD and I see it in all the video stores and rental places I go.

Where the heck do you live? LOL


50 posted on 11/26/2012 1:44:59 PM PST by History Repeats (sic transit gloria mundi)
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