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Election 2016: Not Bush vs. Clinton, but Palin vs. Biden
Yahoo Voices ^ | November 26, 2012 | Mark R. Whittington

Posted on 11/26/2012 11:55:24 AM PST by Marcus

Allahpundit at Hot Air is relating what he thinks may be a nightmare scenario for 2016, the presidential candidacy of former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, the brother of one former president and the son of another. It just smacks too much of dynastic politics.

This is especially true if Bush wound up running against Hillary Clinton, the wife of a former president, former senator and soon to be former secretary of state.

There is an alternative, however

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016; 2016demprimary; 2016gopprimary; biden2016; election2016; hillary; hillaryclinton; jebbush; joebiden; michelleobama; palin; palin2016; sarahpalin
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1 posted on 11/26/2012 11:55:32 AM PST by Marcus
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To: Marcus

C’mon...what was Biden before Obama snatched him from the jaws of defeat? He’ll be 8 years older, and nuttier. He’ll be primaried and lose.


2 posted on 11/26/2012 11:59:05 AM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: Marcus

sorry ,but 2012 was the last Presidential Election ,in 2016 everyone will be pledging allegiance to Obama


3 posted on 11/26/2012 12:00:20 PM PST by molson209
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To: Marcus

It will be Hillary (she will be ready to go after 2 years off before beginning campaign) vs. Bush or Rubio (not a great choice but GOPe will stick them on us). And once again we will be forced to vote for him. Who will win????? Nobody knows.


4 posted on 11/26/2012 12:02:39 PM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: Marcus

If by some long shot she gets a SCOTUS nomination would she quit?


5 posted on 11/26/2012 12:07:02 PM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Marcus

Will never happen.

Mrs Palin has been so marginalized by the media.

Until we get control of the progaganda machine - I mean media- the world’s best candidate will never have a rat’s chance


6 posted on 11/26/2012 12:07:12 PM PST by llevrok (I haven't left America. It left me.)
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To: molson209

I agree..Obama is seeing what is going on in Egypt and is salivating to do that here(He’s pretty much already done it) he will probably put in a new law in the Constitution saying that he’s President for life, nothing would shock me at this point


7 posted on 11/26/2012 12:07:50 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Marcus

Moochelle is going to run as the next Obama Messiah


8 posted on 11/26/2012 12:08:57 PM PST by Patrsup (To stubborn to change now)
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To: Patrsup
I think you're right. Ironic that they would use a strategy perfected by the governor Wallaces.
9 posted on 11/26/2012 12:16:21 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
Yes and the media won't report or spin it somehow to make everyone think the U.S.A. is still a democracy even though Obama will be dictator for life. We live in a false reality created solely by the media.
10 posted on 11/26/2012 12:23:02 PM PST by rurgan (give laws an expiration date:so the congress has to review every 4 years to see if needed)
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To: Marcus

Jeb Bush?!?!? When somebody sneezes or can’t find their keys they know that it’s the fault of somebody named Bush. There is no way that any Bush could win.


11 posted on 11/26/2012 12:26:01 PM PST by all the best (`~!)
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To: Marcus

I’d love it of Sarah started running today, but would also love it if a strong, successful conservative governor like Walker, Scott or even Perry (after sharpening his debate and memory skills) would run.


12 posted on 11/26/2012 12:28:20 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Marcus

Hot air. That’s all this is.


13 posted on 11/26/2012 12:28:56 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
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To: Marcus
Biden will never be nominated

Unlike the Pubbies who select the next loser in a hierarchy of losers, the dems pick the person who has a shot at winning...

Biden...will be offered some plumb post... Ambassador to Sweden or something to keep him out of the county and occupied...and mouth SHUT..

14 posted on 11/26/2012 12:29:54 PM PST by Popman
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To: Marcus

Is Biden well? I can’t imagine him running for President. He just doesn’t seem all there.


15 posted on 11/26/2012 12:38:26 PM PST by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

“Obama is seeing what is going on in Egypt and is salivating to do that here(He’s pretty much already done it) he will probably put in a new law in the Constitution saying that he’s President for life”

It will be called “Lincolesque” by the propagandist media. One of many reasons those online petitions for secession were foolish and counterproductive.


16 posted on 11/26/2012 12:38:59 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans. Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: Marcus

Biden won’t make it to the general election if Hillary runs. She’ll have that “election” locked down from the moment she announces.


17 posted on 11/26/2012 12:39:18 PM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: Marcus
Jeb Bush ???

He was my Governor and a pretty good one...

As President..I'd pass

The one and only reason he is being tossed out as a trial balloon for POTUS is his wife, Columba Bush is a Mexican born and raised...

She still has a heavy accent..

18 posted on 11/26/2012 12:39:30 PM PST by Popman
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To: Marcus

Trending demographics favor Joe Biteme. Note tag.


19 posted on 11/26/2012 12:39:58 PM PST by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: married21

Is Biden well? I can’t imagine him running for President. He just doesn’t seem all there.

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He never was. That hasn’t stopped him so far. Somehow I don’t see the court jester being offered a crown though.


20 posted on 11/26/2012 12:41:53 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans. Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: napscoordinator

Hill against Rubio: 3-1 in favor of the Hildebeest.


21 posted on 11/26/2012 12:42:17 PM PST by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: luvbach1

So, who do you think would be the best candidate to run against Hillary?


22 posted on 11/26/2012 12:54:21 PM PST by riverdawg
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To: Marcus

It’s not going to be either Palin or Biden, but we’d better start lining up some viable candidates soon.

No matter who the Dems run after Obama, they’re not going to have the “first (non-American) (half) black” thing going for them, and it doesn’t look to me like the Dems have any good candidates waiting in the wings. The fact that they are floating Michelle Obama for 2016 lets you know what this is all about: a cult of personality.

But we have time to get a few possible candidates out there. Jeb Bush is certainly a possible, so let his defenders support him and see what happens during the primary campaigns (or before - people often start and then drop out). I don’t think Palin is even a possible, because she has not in any way indicated that she wants to run, she let everybody down the last time by dilly-dallying until the last moment to say she wasn’t running but she wasn’t really supporting anybody else, either - and I don’t think we need that type of candidate. In other words, just because we think they should be the candidate...it doesn’t mean they think it too.

So we need a selection of good, fresh and well-presenting candidates (the elderly lame-brain McCain seems to think he’s going to get it again! NO WAY!) and then when primary season rolls around, there will be some real choices. And we have to start now, not by shooting down possibles right out of the box, but by finding and promoting good people.


23 posted on 11/26/2012 12:55:05 PM PST by livius
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To: riverdawg
So, who do you think would be the best candidate to run against Hillary?

Rubio, even though I think he would lose. That's why my tag line says: "We are finished."

24 posted on 11/26/2012 12:58:16 PM PST by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: luvbach1

Hillary is finished, and I think she knows it. Her performance as SOS has been lousy to really lousy, and she is very clearly subservient to Obama and has let him humiliate her on a number of occasions.

It’s a pity, because Rubio would run all over her, although I don’t think he’ll be the candidate because the GOP-e will simply not permit an Hispanic conservative candidate. It’s going to be an elderly white RINO guy again, hopefully not McCain, although he’s angling for it and seems to have emerged as their spokesman.

I think the Clintons are hoping to get at least a Senate seat for their odious daughter Chelsea. I don’t think she’d be old enough to be president, otherwise they’d be trying for that.

But my money’s on Michelle Obama as the Dem candidate.


25 posted on 11/26/2012 1:01:15 PM PST by livius
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To: livius
But my money’s on Michelle Obama as the Dem candidate.

I think you're on to something, It would be easier than changing term limits for president. And she would be a shoo-in. An Obama dynasty. And the Obama girls can mature in the house and senate, respectively, before they run for prexy too.

26 posted on 11/26/2012 1:08:49 PM PST by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: napscoordinator

Not any more. I forced myself to vote for Dole, McCain, and Romney, I will not force myself to vote for anyone anymore.

I will vote for Hillary before I will vote for Jeb Bush, Rubio, Jindal.


27 posted on 11/26/2012 1:11:33 PM PST by Venturer
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To: livius; All

Read it and weep

Let’s be aware of what we’re up against.

Please don’t mis/underestimate the electorate.

I heard from three people just yesterday who are rather in-the-know and the smart money at the moment is for Hillary to run AND win.

Think about it. Obama was finished, couldn’t get reelection, a disaster on the Constitution, freedom of religion (unprecedented), economy and foreign policy by any standard, except that of the liberal half of this country. But he’s back in to inflict so much damage as he possibly can.

If he’s getting away with Benghazi, and he seems to be- she certainly can.

How is Hillary anywhere close to finished on that scale? Plus, she’s an American citizen - bonus.


28 posted on 11/26/2012 1:28:14 PM PST by stanne
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To: Venturer

I know you’ve thougt of this, but, beware of considering Hil. tolerable in light of all others, even and esp the present occupier. She has no shame, so she appears in some way moral. People love her, so she appears in some way good. She would be worse than anyone else imaginable even her good for nothing “husband”.


29 posted on 11/26/2012 1:37:14 PM PST by stanne
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To: Marcus
not sure which idea is dumber, biden or palin
30 posted on 11/26/2012 2:18:49 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: napscoordinator
It will be Hillary (she will be ready to go after 2 years off before beginning campaign)

Uh-huh...


31 posted on 11/26/2012 2:19:10 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Resolute Conservative
If by some long shot she gets a SCOTUS nomination would she quit?

I'm wondering when the 'concerned' PDSers are going to quit running that worn out meme.

32 posted on 11/26/2012 2:24:18 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: livius
Hillary is finished, and I think she knows it. Her performance as SOS has been lousy to really lousy, and she is very clearly subservient to Obama and has let him humiliate her on a number of occasions.



33 posted on 11/26/2012 2:28:15 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: stanne
...the smart money at the moment is for Hillary to run AND win.

"Umm, dunno about that..."


34 posted on 11/26/2012 2:36:05 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Marcus
Joe Biden is Hillary Clinton this time. He's the "front runner" who gets endorsements but is hated by the liberal rank-and-file. He's Muskie or Humphrey or Gephardt or Mondale (or Romney, come to think of it). Somebody younger will beat him -- and that might just create an opening for Hillary Clinton, though I suspect she's very old news by now.
35 posted on 11/26/2012 2:52:52 PM PST by x
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To: napscoordinator

We need Bill Whittle. Please go watch him on YouTube in his recent speeches. He could be a serious candidate.


36 posted on 11/26/2012 2:55:41 PM PST by RightFighter (It was all for nothing.)
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To: Marcus

ELECTION 2016??? Seriously, do you really think your vote or your voice actually has anything to do with who actually sits in the WH?


37 posted on 11/26/2012 3:27:48 PM PST by drypowder
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To: Windflier

Looks like forty miles of bad road.


38 posted on 11/26/2012 3:29:49 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (The idiocracy has come home to roost. God help us.)
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To: Windflier

Looks like forty miles of bad road.


39 posted on 11/26/2012 3:29:49 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (The idiocracy has come home to roost. God help us.)
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To: Windflier

Looks like forty miles of bad road.


40 posted on 11/26/2012 3:29:58 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (The idiocracy has come home to roost. God help us.)
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To: Marcus

Palin? The GOPe wouldn’t even invite her to the Republican convention because they thought that her views are too conservative. And people are actually fantasizing that she’ll be running as the GOPe candidate in the next election? Put down the crack pipe. Will never happen.

Hey, there is an alternative though. Since we’re gonna loose the election to the class warfare scammers anyway, and the takers now outnumber the makers, conservatives should make a concerted effort to start a serious 3rd party, the Tea Party, and run Sarah Palin, JOE WALSH, Allen West or some other solid conservative. Completely trash the GOPe with their stupid socialist candidate that they will deffinitely pick. Hahahaha!! Make the stupid RINO GOPe candidate only get like 25% of the vote in the next election running against the dems and our true conservative Tea Party candidate. Why not? We got nothing to loose now, we already lost it all.


41 posted on 11/26/2012 3:29:58 PM PST by CaptainKrunch (Freedom does not promise safety and security, freedom only promises freedom.)
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To: Marcus

Jeb Bush, IF he runs, will quickly be out in the first primaries when he comes in last.

Biden as well. He is another nonstarter who put the “STU” in STUPID!!

As for Palin vs. Hillary?? I doubt it. It will be someone versus Hillary, but not Palin.


42 posted on 11/26/2012 3:35:12 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: CatherineofAragon

ugh...sorry


43 posted on 11/26/2012 3:37:44 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (The idiocracy has come home to roost. God help us.)
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To: CatherineofAragon
Looks like forty miles of bad road.

You can say that again......and again, and again...

44 posted on 11/26/2012 3:45:45 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

"I welcome the opportunity to rule the world!"


45 posted on 11/26/2012 3:50:17 PM PST by CaptainKrunch (Freedom does not promise safety and security, freedom only promises freedom.)
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To: Marcus

Joe Biden will be 74 years old on Nov. 20, 2016.

Stop posting nonsense.


46 posted on 11/26/2012 3:55:28 PM PST by Houghton M.
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To: Windflier

LOL

(barely hitting touchpad, and leaping backward)


47 posted on 11/26/2012 4:00:46 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (The idiocracy has come home to roost. God help us.)
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To: CaptainKrunch

Heh....what a goofball pic of a goofball. Hillary isn’t even capable of being president of her own life.


48 posted on 11/26/2012 4:11:03 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: CatherineofAragon
LOL (barely hitting touchpad, and leaping backward)

I hear that lots of people are having that problem with iPads and the like. It's got to do with the sensitivity of the keyboards. Someone posted a link to a tool you can download to stop that, the other day (sorry, I didn't bookmark it).

I still use my trusty old Microsoft natural keyboard and my desktop computer. I much prefer mechanical keys to touchpads.

49 posted on 11/26/2012 4:14:48 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

I’m with you....I have no desire for a handheld device. This is actually a laptop; fairly new, but the touchpad is just crazy-sensitive. This wasn’t the first time I multiple-posted with the thing.

Agree about keys over touchpads. I prefer our older desktop. Too bad they’re going the way of the dinosaurs.


50 posted on 11/26/2012 5:02:27 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (The idiocracy has come home to roost. God help us.)
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