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Will Obama Let the U.N. Seize The Internet?
IBD EDITORIALS ^ | November 26, 2012

Posted on 11/26/2012 4:12:39 PM PST by raptor22

Free Speech: The U.N. plans to control the tool that tyrants fear most — technology that promotes free speech and intellectual freedom — by imposing a global tax in the name of fairness. Think of net neutrality on steroids.

Elections have consequences, and one consequence of President Obama's re-election may be U.S. acquiescence to the administrative control of the Internet to the United Nations and journalist-jailing and Web-censoring regimes from Iran to Venezuela, complete with a global tax on its use.

The U.N.'s International Telecommunications Union (ITU) is holding the World Conference on International Telecommunications in Dubai from Dec. 3 to 14. U.N. member states, largely composed of Third World despots, will be meeting to update the ITU treaty arrangements for international communications.

The ITU last drafted a treaty on communications in 1988, before the dawn of the Internet as we know it, and many of the world's thugs seek to restrict its freedoms by imposing on it a global tax. The Internet was then primarily a university network, and Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg was a mere 4 years old.

Today, the self-regulating Internet means no one has to ask for permission to launch a website, and no government can tell network operators how to do their jobs. The Internet freely crosses international boundaries, making it difficult for governments to censor or to tax.

Regimes such as Russia and Iran also want an ITU rule letting them monitor Internet traffic routed through or to their countries, allowing them to eavesdrop or block access.

Since at least 2004, the ITU has tried repeatedly to wrest power from ICANN, the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, the multi-stakeholder body created in 1998 to oversee domain names and addresses.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: facebook; google; ibd; icann; internet; itu; netneutrality; taxes; tyranny; unitednations
You've got mail - from the dictators at the United Nations!
1 posted on 11/26/2012 4:12:46 PM PST by raptor22
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To: raptor22
Did IBD miss the part where OBAMA HAS ALREADY GIVEN IT TO THEM??????????????????????????????????
2 posted on 11/26/2012 4:14:24 PM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against you?)
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To: raptor22

Why no! Obama would stand up for America and free speech first, the way he always does! /


3 posted on 11/26/2012 4:15:54 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: raptor22; All
Yes of course Obama wants the UN to regulate the Internet. The media won't report this either.

It's all about making all of us slave to the UN and government.

This country was founded on freedom and became great because of freedom. Stupid liberals don't believe in freedom.democrat Obama voters are traitors

4 posted on 11/26/2012 4:17:02 PM PST by rurgan (give laws an expiration date:so the congress has to review every 4 years to see if needed)
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To: raptor22

Is the bear catholic?


5 posted on 11/26/2012 4:21:22 PM PST by deadrock
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To: raptor22
Yes Obama wants the UN to regulate the Internet.

The media will hide this from the American people.

Stupid liberals voted for this Obama communist traitor and so they (democrats) are against freedom and traitors also

If the UN gets to censor the Internet , sites like this one will get banned

6 posted on 11/26/2012 4:21:27 PM PST by rurgan (give laws an expiration date:so the congress has to review every 4 years to see if needed)
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To: raptor22

A politician can go to the UN and silence their critics?

Who’s going to vote against that?

And when the people get pissy and complain, we’ll just close their websites. LOL!

Isn’t Obamaland great? :)


7 posted on 11/26/2012 4:21:58 PM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against you?)
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8 posted on 11/26/2012 4:22:34 PM PST by raptor22 (Join me on Twitter @gerfingerpoken)
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9 posted on 11/26/2012 4:23:18 PM PST by raptor22 (Join me on Twitter @gerfingerpoken)
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To: raptor22
The UN ,Obama and many of the world's thugs seek to restrict the Internet’s freedoms by imposing on it a global tax and by censorship: Thanks to stupid democrats/liberals who voted for obama and Obama stealing the election.

I guess now we'll have to pay a tax to the UN every-time we click on a link .and no more free market on the Internet and no more free speech. I guess liberals think UN thug despots know better what we should buy and read and say than we do for ourselves .

10 posted on 11/26/2012 4:29:42 PM PST by rurgan (give laws an expiration date:so the congress has to review every 4 years to see if needed)
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To: raptor22

As a self-proclaimed “citizen of the world”, Hussein is probably in favor of it.

For the “common good”, of course.


11 posted on 11/26/2012 4:56:54 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: raptor22

Is it time yet?


12 posted on 11/26/2012 5:06:44 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: raptor22

Will Obama Let the U.N. Seize The Internet?

Is this a rhetorical question?


13 posted on 11/26/2012 5:09:58 PM PST by mark3681
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14 posted on 11/26/2012 5:11:20 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Hardraade
Soon. Sooner than I expected.

Until then, keep building your larder.

15 posted on 11/26/2012 5:19:53 PM PST by Drill Thrawl (We have crossed the line from independence & liberty to dependency & servitude. We are doomed)
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To: Hardraade

YES


16 posted on 11/26/2012 5:22:31 PM PST by WhirlwindAttack (FUBO)
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To: Hardraade
Is it time yet?

Yes.

It won't happen the "voting" booths.

FMCDH(BITS)

17 posted on 11/26/2012 5:25:50 PM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: raptor22

Yes.


18 posted on 11/26/2012 5:28:13 PM PST by Skepolitic
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To: raptor22

Where does OBummer get this kind of power? Nowhere in the Constitution does it say the President is free to yield sovereignty to any foreign entities.


19 posted on 11/26/2012 5:38:44 PM PST by bopdowah ("Unlike King Midas, whatever the Gubmint touches sure don't turn to Gold!')
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To: raptor22

Let the UN take control of the Internet and a second, parallel system (FreedomNet) will pop up and put the UNternet out of business.

Just my prediction


20 posted on 11/26/2012 5:42:32 PM PST by Smedley (It's a sad day for American capitalism when a man can't fly a midget on a kite over Central Park)
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To: DesertRhino

Darn Right! Every American is free to agree with Obama’s speeches.


21 posted on 11/26/2012 5:43:23 PM PST by haroldeveryman
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To: rurgan
If the UN gets to censor the Internet , sites like this one will get banned

Maybe so but they won't be able to shut it down. Remember the letters BBS?

22 posted on 11/26/2012 7:00:52 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ('Need' now means wanting someone else's money. 'Greed' means wanting to keep your own...)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
We'll definitely have to set up something that is out of the government's control. I was thinking of some kind of alternate way for all of us to communicate using cell phone towers , phone lines ,satellite , or other ways to create our own underground network that could be encrypted and secret similar to the TOR network. what do you think?
23 posted on 11/26/2012 7:23:38 PM PST by rurgan (give laws an expiration date:so the congress has to review every 4 years to see if needed)
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To: BenLurkin

“As a self-proclaimed “citizen of the world”, Hussein “

How did this piece of puke get elected and then re-elected? It must be divine punishment. We are so screwed.


24 posted on 11/26/2012 9:02:51 PM PST by garjog (Heroes Died. Obama Lied.)
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To: raptor22
Will Obama Let the U.N. Seize The Internet?

"Let?" I'm sure he'll do everything in his power to HELP! I mean, if your ideology is UN good, ANY anti-American scumbag tyrant organization good, US bad, sovereignty bad, what is there about this proposal not to like?

25 posted on 11/26/2012 10:32:53 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: raptor22

I thought Obama would be better served having control of it himself. Why would he give up that power than might become essential to his rule?


26 posted on 11/26/2012 10:51:12 PM PST by tinamina
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Remember the letters BBS?

Yep, I wasted time on those before I wasted time on the 'net. With Vonage and other VOIP systems, the dial-ups could easily make a comeback - maybe a "FidoNet 2".

I have a new home-built Linux box that's got a bunch of ham radio software on it, but otherwise isn't doing much. Maybe I should dust off the old U.S. Robotics modem and see what's left out there. Last I looked, dial-ups were down to a list of 20 or so.

Perhaps a bunch of us FReepers should ponder this and come up with our own regional BBS list, run by us. Just as a temporary fall-back if this sort of idiocy moves ahead. It'd make a nice alternative comms network, and would give my land line a purpose again.

27 posted on 11/26/2012 11:08:29 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: raptor22
I sent a plea to resist all things U.N. to my Congressman and my Senator. My Congressman replied with a bit about supporting 2nd Amendment rights but also saying that the Arms Treaty was a good thing. I just kicked of this response to him:

Sir, I must admit to being a bit concerned about your response. You say you will protect the 2nd Amendment, but also lend validity to the U.N. Arms Treaty. I ask you to consider the make up of the group that is trying to exert its influence on a free people. The U.N. is a socialist entity and it continually puts some of the worst offenders of human rights on it's human rights council and its main purpose seems to bring equality to all the nations of the world. The inherent problem with this is that, instead of raising other nations up, it focuses on bringing the greater nations down. Time after time, "liberals" have cadged their policies and programs in words that sound oh-so benevolent and yet they turn out to be some of the worst banes to have been perpetrated on a free People. I do not know how involved or knowledgeable you are about all the policies of the U.N. or how they fall right in line with the far left wing of the party of Reid, Pelosi and Obama, but I urge you to look into all the nooks and crannies before supporting anything the U.N. proposes. The Arms treaty has far too much potential to put a wedge in the door to step on our Freedoms. Agenda 21 is a frightening proposition, which can only serve to pare away even more of the freedoms we have lost since FDR's New Deal, LBJ's great Society, and the current administration's seeming focused attempt to destroy our once great Nation. Add the U.N.s support for the dictators and terrorists of the world and anything that supports the U.N.'s pogroms is unacceptable. Sir, you ran as a strong Conservative and many of us believed you enough to put and keep you in office; please do not support anything that would give your constituency pause to doubt your conservative principles.

28 posted on 11/27/2012 5:51:47 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: rurgan
After "the shutdown" I intend on using HAM radio as the primary means of outside comms. After that, it will take time to set up anything like what we have today. But, it will come. You cannot kill an idea.

Using current infrastructure will be problematic. Resources would be better used setting up a system that works outside that.

29 posted on 11/27/2012 6:45:05 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ('Need' now means wanting someone else's money. 'Greed' means wanting to keep your own...)
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To: raptor22

I am more amazed every day. Do people think obama OWNS the internet? Has obama been declared a dictator possessing all powers? Or has it simply been accepted without saying it?


30 posted on 11/27/2012 7:09:42 AM PST by Terry Mross (I haven't watched the news since the election. Someone ping me if anything big happens.)
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To: Charles Martel; re_nortex; davetex; stevie_d_64; Bigun; YCTHouston; humblegunner; smokingfrog
Perhaps a bunch of us FReepers should ponder this and come up with our own regional BBS list, run by us. Just as a temporary fall-back if this sort of idiocy moves ahead. It'd make a nice alternative comms network, and would give my land line a purpose again.

This idea is a keeper, Charles. Dialup (I'm on dialup) works fine for texting and posting and e-mail, and only slows you down if you are addicted to banner ads, full-motion video blurbs for feminine-hygiene products, and websites that require you to enable Java scripting so they can push full-motion ads at you.

(Cricket is incessantly texting me to come in and buy a new smartphone because they're trying to send me full-motion ads .... I just laugh and delete. I got my Cricket phone because I want to talk to people, not stand under a Niagara of Minority Report advertising!)

Pinging some of our Texas amigos for future reference and possible interest.. .... some of them are IT-literate (okay, then, "IT megaliterate") and could make this work, and as you mentioned, TTY and texting work very nicely over 10 and 20 meters broadcast. There might even be a way to do it over GMRS (the 440-MHz "Citizens' Band Class A" of misty yore), or on Class D/11 meters CB on single sideband.

Pinging ....

31 posted on 11/27/2012 11:33:50 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

http://www.southgatearc.org/news/august2009/universal_ham_radio_text_messaging.htm

Anyone know how this is supposed to work & equip involved?


32 posted on 11/27/2012 12:08:29 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog
I'm new to ham radio; just got my callsign last year. I haven't had much opportunity to dig into the packet digital text stuff.

Looks like certain radios support it directly, as with the old "pagers" and modern worksite walkie-talkies. Other services use repeaters linked to the internet so that radio users can squirt text messages wirelessly to an e-mail server. I'm not sure if that's an optimum solution, given the topic of this thread. As far as equipment, you'd probably need a computer with a sound card to process the digital tones, along with a connection cable to whatever radio you choose.

There are some ship-to-shore communications networks that could be of use, as they offer packet text-to-email capability (for a fee). So in addition to the material at the above link (such as winlink.org), have a look at www.shipcom.com and similar sites.

Also, search here for a post today by Varmint Al. He's got an extensive webpage on ham radio and this subject in particular.

One other thing - there are pre-configured Linux distributions loaded with lots of ham radio software; check out Harve's Hamshack and Shackbox Air.

33 posted on 11/27/2012 8:37:46 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Charles Martel

It just so happens I looked at some of Varmint Al’s stuff today, but didn’t understand very much of it.


34 posted on 11/27/2012 9:50:51 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog
This YouTube video is a good starting point.

Watch it all the way through, then read through this page.

35 posted on 11/28/2012 5:34:13 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Charles Martel
Thanks for the link.

The use of radio has other applications as well for preppers. I prefer non-license Citizens Band (FMRS/GMRS/old Class "A", and Class D/11 Meters/40-channel CB). No paper handle or license for them to get hold of.

37 posted on 11/29/2012 4:04:05 PM PST by lentulusgracchus (Hanoi toy, McCain's their boy. (Hat tip to FReeper |neverdem|.))
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To: lentulusgracchus
Rest assured, few hams will be transmitting call signs if things really get bad. Most will probably go mobile as well, making it tougher for the FCC's band of rogue signal tracking guys to locate them. As for concerns of seizure; I'd leave an old Hallicrafters "boat anchor" for them to take, if they really want that hernia. The real radio meanwhile, will be a compact mobile rig.

There are lots of people learning the basics of shortwave listening these days, often paying more for transceivers just so they have transmitting capability if they ever really need it.

Check out the AR15.com "Outdoors" forum and Ham radio subforum. Those guys have an downloadable SHTF frequency list that they've developed.

38 posted on 11/29/2012 4:33:05 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: lentulusgracchus
There might even be a way to do it over GMRS (the 440-MHz "Citizens' Band Class A" of misty yore), or on Class D/11 meters CB on single sideband.

Yeah, CB could be used just like HF for this, based on that PSK31 software in the Youtube link I posted above. Just gotta choose frequencies and figure out how to wire the sound card to the CB's mic jack. The computer and sound card generate the digital tone, based on what you type in. Could be an interesting (and relatively cheap) project.

39 posted on 11/29/2012 4:42:26 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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40 posted on 11/29/2012 5:15:05 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Charles Martel

Would it work something like a Kantronics CW reader?


41 posted on 11/30/2012 2:49:36 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Hanoi toy, McCain's their boy. (Hat tip to FReeper |neverdem|.))
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To: Charles Martel

Thanks for the link. Yes, 10-meter transceivers w/ all-mode capabilities are easy to come by. And if it comes to that, a clunker 40-channel 11-meter CB can be tuned to 10 meters for instant comm capability, with its slider unlocked. Slider tricks, QRP sideband and FM xmissions, mobile units with quick-dismount antennae — being Barky’s FCC is going to be a bitch if The Won decides to order Alien-Larva Holder to crack down on Evil White People.


42 posted on 11/30/2012 2:57:50 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Hanoi toy, McCain's their boy. (Hat tip to FReeper |neverdem|.))
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