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"Man can marry four - why not women marry four?" (those wacky Muslims)
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Posted on 11/26/2012 4:16:23 PM PST by doug from upland

"Man can marry four - why not women marry four?"

Question "Islam gives man permission to marry four wives. Why can't a woman have four husbands?

Answer Al Hamdulilah, was-salat was-salam ala rasulullah. Allahu 'Alim.

(It is Allah who has All Knowledge)

Rights and Limits

First of all, it is important for us to keep in mind that Islam came to establish two very important fundamentals for human beings:

Rights and Limits.

Everyone and everything has certain rights given to it by the Creator and Sustainer of the universe (Allah). At the same time, each creation has its own limitations established by Allah.

First Right - Allah has the right to be worshipped without making partners from what He has created. Direct worship to Him, alone.

Second Right - Prophet's right to be followed according to his teaching and commandments.

Third Right - Parents rights to be honored and cared for, with special emphasis on the mother first.

Fourth Right - Wives and Husbands have rights on each other.

Conditions 1,400 Years Ago

Now let us do some basic research here. We begin by looking into the condition of the women in various societies at the time 1,400 years ago when Allah revealed the Quran to Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him.

Pagan Arabs - Burying Girls Alive

During that time the pagan Arab men used to bury their newborn daughters alive in the sand, out of shame for having something so low and disgusting like a girl instead of a son. Women were treated horribly and with utter disgust.

Men could marry as many as they liked and very often they owned women like cattle or sheep. There were no laws to protect the women and they had no rights at all.

Christians - Arguing If Women Had Souls

Christians at that time were holding council meetings to determine whether or not a woman even had a soul. The church blamed "Eve" the mother of all humans after Adam (peace and blessings be upon him) for the "original sin" and damned her and her seed for what she had done.

Priests - Best Men - Forbidden Marriage - To Any Women

Priests, bishops, cardinals and even the Pope are the very best of the Catholic men within the church. Yet the church still forbids their clergymen the chance for marriage and families. This unnatural situation has caused very serious ramifications throughout the society around the world.

Nuns - Best Women - No Marriage - No Children

Nuns are the very best of the Catholic women. They cover themselves in proper attire much the same way as the Muslim women. Yet, they are never allowed to marry or have children throughout their lives. This unnatural condition has caused untold number of disgraceful and disgusting practices within the very church itself.

If Only Bad People Have Children - What About Tomorrow?

We must ask the question, "If the very best of the men and the very best of the women are not allowed to marry or have children - does this mean only the worst of the people are the ones allowed to reproduce and populate the world?" - And where will that leave us tomorrow?

Jews - Blame Women and Curse Women

The Jews blamed women for the "original sin" and as such they were treated with disgust. A woman's monthly cycle was considered by the Old Testament of the Bible to be a "curse from God" for her inequities. Her child bearing pains were also a 'punishment from God' for her bringing man down from heaven.

Islam - No Blame On Women For Evil

Islam does not blame Eve for Adam's sin. Each of them accepted their own mistake and repented to Allah, and asked Allah to forgive them and Allah did forgive them.

Now before going any further, please read Surah An-Nisa' (chapter 4 in the Quran) - all the way through, in order to better understand what is actually being said about women, men and marriage.

Read Quran

Now let us think about the verses. Do you believe that Allah Knows what He created and He has revealed the perfect 'Deen'? Do you know the condition of the people at the time the order came to restrict the number of wives? (Restricted to be only four)

"Now read the verse about having more than one wife, very carefully." [Noble Quran 4:3]

What does it say? And what do you understand from it?

"Now read the ayah (verse) that forbids men to marry women who are already married." [Noble Quran 4:24]

Now read from An-Nisa' (Chapter 4) about the role of men and women. [4:34]

Man Supports And Protects Women

Do you understand that one must take on the role of supporter, protector, provider, custodian and servant to the family (man's role)?

Woman Gives Birth - Raises Children

One must take on the role of carrying the child and delivering it and then feeding it and raising it to become a true servant of Allah (woman's role).

Not Equal - But Treated Fairly In Justice

Men and women are not the same nor are they "equal" as some folks would have us believe. Whatever is on one side of an 'equals' sign must be exactly the same as what is on the other side without any difference in value, only in the way that it is expressed. How then could we say that a man, who is unable to conceive or give birth and then breast feed a baby is the equal to a woman who can?

Equal In Faith And Actions

They are equal in their beliefs and good deeds of course. But still they are not the same as each other. Each one must fulfill their role as humans.

Children's Rights Protected

Islam is also very much about rights. Children also have rights in Islam. When a man dies his wealth is left to his family. How could the court know who to give the wealth of a man, if he was one of several husbands to a woman? How would a child know who his father was? No society ever supported the concept of a woman being married to two or more men at the same time.

Women's Right - Best Treatment

Almost every society supported the concept of a man having more than one woman. Yet, they did not limit the number nor did they provide the protection and maintenance that Islam insists on for each one. Islam came to set things straight. Women were given rights. Men were strictly ordered to treat their women with the very best of treatment.

Limit - Number in Marriage

When the verse was revealed the companions of Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him)did not run out with the attitude that they were going to get four wives all of a sudden. Some of them already had much more than that and these men had to divorce their wives, if they had more than four. So this was not an order to go out and get four wives. It was an order to begin limitations. And the first limitation was; No more than four.

Limit - Equal Maintenance and Treatment

Second, the limitation of equal treatment for all of them. How could a man keep more than one wife unless he was exceedingly wealthy and/or exceedingly strong and virile?

Next, the limitation very clearly states; ".. but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly (with them) then only one ..."

Muslims Today - Most Monogamous

Step by step, the men of Islam have come to be known today as the most monogamous of all men on earth (we only have one wife). Check for yourself and see. In the majority of all the Muslim homes on earth, a man gets married once, to one woman and then he stays married to her until the death of either himself or his wife.

Woman's Right To Choose Any Husband She Likes -

Even If He Is Already Married

One very important point that is often overlooked by modern society is the right that Islam gave to the women that it does not give to the man. A man is limited to marry only from the woman who is not already married. Obviously, this provides rights for the children and provides for them from inheritance from the father. But Islam also permits the women to marry a man who is already married to protect her in a society where the number of women outnumbers the population of men. Additionally, the woman has a large selection of men to choose from. In fact, she has the right to choose from any man in the community as long as he does not already have four wives. She also has the opportunity to see how the other wife was being treated and go into a marriage knowing exactly what to expect from her husband. After all, he must treat her in the same way as he is treating the other wife.

Women Need Husbands - Allah Provided the Answer

The prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) predicted that in the Last Days the women would outnumber the men to a great extent. Today we are seeing this become a reality all over the world. Allah has already provided for us for this occasion. After all, He is the One who makes it all happen and He already knew that many women would come into Islam in these days. He also knew many of the Muslim men would be killed or die at an early age, just as it is happening these days. These women all need husbands. Allah has given us the solution to all of life's problems.

Women's Right to Vote - 1,400 Years Ago

We might add that Islam also gave the women full status as citizens over 1,400 years ago by giving her to right to speak and vote the same as anyone else. American women had to take their cause to the streets with "Women's Suffrage" and were not granted the right to vote until just ninety years ago.

Women Keep Their Identity - And Their Names

Additionally, Islam protected women's rights to keep their identity and they were not considered property of some man. As such, they were no longer forced to change their last names to be that of their husbands. This is still the practice of Muslim women today just as it was fourteen hundred years ago.

Women Keep Their Property And Earnings - Men Must Share

Yet, at the same time the western society is so concerned about the way Islam demands that a couple be married, the man actually must work instead of the woman; the woman owns her own property without giving anything for the support of the house or the child; a child has the right to his or her own mother raising them instead of a baby sitter or day care; father must support his children; divorce is hated; and marriage is sanctified.

West Can't Tolerate Man And Woman - In Marriage

It is strange isn't it, a society like America, has no problem accepting sex without marriage; homosexuality; same sex marriages; sex without responsibility; children without fathers; and divorces are more common place than the measles or chicken pox. Yet, there is no tolerance for marriage between a man and a woman if it is not on their terms.

What Needs to Be Re-evaluated?

Compare the two for yourself and see which one needs correction.

We will be waiting to hear from you. May Allah Bless you all and increase you in all that is good, ameen.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: islam; women

1 posted on 11/26/2012 4:16:26 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland

It’s not that women can’t have four husbands, it’s that they learned their lesson on the first one and don’t want anymore.


2 posted on 11/26/2012 4:18:08 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: doug from upland

And so . . to follow the law of Islam, they “marry” a prostitute until their business deal is over and repeat three times “I divorce you I divorce you I divorce you” and all is well. There’s something odd about that. (scratching my head)


3 posted on 11/26/2012 4:23:18 PM PST by BipolarBob (Occupy Las Vegas! Join the "save the strippers and hookers" movement.)
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To: bgill

maximizing family. women get pregnant. paternity matters.


4 posted on 11/26/2012 4:24:55 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: doug from upland

Those wacky Mormons


5 posted on 11/26/2012 4:31:16 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you)
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To: doug from upland

“Fair” is something that comes around once a year and then it costs money.


6 posted on 11/26/2012 4:35:41 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Vaquero

As a Catholic I really don’t know Mormon doctrine, but I think I remember that polygamy ended sometime before 1900. If any are still practicing it, I understand it to be contrary to LDS teaching.


7 posted on 11/26/2012 4:41:38 PM PST by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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To: doug from upland

“We will be waiting to hear from you.”

Don’t hold your breath Aladdin.


8 posted on 11/26/2012 4:43:22 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: doug from upland
Answer: Al Hamdulilah, was-salat was-salam ala rasulullah. Allahu 'Alim.

Translation: Gunga galunga...gunga -- gunga galunga

9 posted on 11/26/2012 4:45:27 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: doug from upland

Imagine making sammiches for four guys. At the same time?


10 posted on 11/26/2012 4:50:38 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church shows up at your funeral)
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To: doug from upland

Why would any man or woman want to have to deal with 4 mothers-in-law?
Want to experience hell on earth,there’s your chance folks.


11 posted on 11/26/2012 4:57:24 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: doug from upland
Christians at that time were holding council meetings to determine whether or not a woman even had a soul.

I really doubt this. Women were accepted from the earliest days of the church as saints, which doesn't seem likely for people without souls. Not to mention the whole Virgin Mary bit.

The church blamed "Eve" the mother of all humans after Adam (peace and blessings be upon him) for the "original sin" and damned her and her seed for what she had done.

While this is true for some "Christians" it is a misunderstanding of scripture, which always speaks of sin being descended from Adam, not from Eve.

12 posted on 11/26/2012 5:11:36 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: doug from upland
Question "Islam gives man permission to marry four wives. Why can't a woman have four husbands?

Because a woman only needs to be trained once to get a beer from the fridge.

13 posted on 11/26/2012 5:19:13 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: doug from upland
I've given up on being in the same place with a human, animal or houseplant.

4 wives is the equivalent of hell on earth.

14 posted on 11/26/2012 5:22:28 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: doug from upland

Moham Madman spake: My male followers can marry four—three women and a camel.


15 posted on 11/26/2012 5:25:17 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: Sherman Logan
I really doubt this.

You are right to doubt it; it's a lie.

One explanation of where this urban legend came from, that I've heard, is that a bishop once spoke at a council claiming that "qui propter nos homines" in the Creed meant that Jesus became incarnate only to save men, not women. (This is a misunderstanding of "homines," which is "men" in the sense of "human beings" not not "men" in the sense of "male humans," which in Latin is "viri".)

The bishop was laughed at or shouted down (depending on which version of the story is told), and that was that.

16 posted on 11/26/2012 5:55:11 PM PST by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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17 posted on 11/26/2012 6:03:15 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: bgill

I’ve found that one man can make enough of a mess that you THINK you have four.


18 posted on 11/26/2012 6:44:13 PM PST by A_perfect_lady (Great nations are born stoic and die epicurean. -Will Durant)
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To: doug from upland
This is an article written by a muslim. Talk talk talk talk talk...and say nothing. They have no interest in truth....lies are their second language. Misrepresent christianity, et al.

Islam is the only religion that exists to negate another, namely christianity. They live in a world of man-made rules in order to satisfy their own lusts and passions. They do not know God.

19 posted on 11/26/2012 6:55:23 PM PST by Taggart_D
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To: doug from upland
Man Supports And Protects Women Do you understand that one must take on the role of supporter, protector, provider, custodian and servant to the family (man's role)?

Give me a break...tell that to the muslim women that have been stoned to death, tell that to the muslim women I know that live in fear of their brothers, husbands and fathers. What a boat load of lies.

Islam is not a religion of peace, it is a religion of submission. Women are equal only to dogs in Islam.

20 posted on 11/26/2012 6:59:53 PM PST by Taggart_D
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To: doug from upland

Great for a woman, 4 men? She can pick up after them and continually put the set down in the bathroom. ??? ;o)


21 posted on 11/26/2012 7:07:49 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Who we elect is not as important as who they bring in with them.)
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To: doug from upland

I worked with a Pakistani Muslim who told me “Technically my religion allows me to marry up to four women. But you’d have to be INSANE to actually try it!”


22 posted on 11/26/2012 8:01:18 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Campion

Thanks for the reply. I don’t have the transcripts of all church councils so they can be searched, but it just didn’t sound write.

And then there’s that unfortunate quotation from Paul about how in heaven male and female will be no more. Which would really put a crimp in the Muslim version of heaven.


23 posted on 11/26/2012 8:10:17 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: doug from upland

Fun to read... chuckled most the time. Two glaring mistakes (1) in their koran “women can not devise a plan” hence supports sahih hadieth(s) deficient in intelligence & (2) according to their koran the woman’s period is called a sickness/disease... Allahs punishment? LOL


24 posted on 11/27/2012 5:19:00 AM PST by existentially_kuffer
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To: doug from upland
"Man can marry four - why not women marry four?"

The answer in the Muslim world is obvious but it seems to present a puzzle to women in the western world's culture.

You can know who the father is when a man has four wives.
You cannot know who the father is when a woman has four husbands.

25 posted on 11/27/2012 6:48:40 AM PST by MosesKnows
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