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Little Falls man describes 'finishing' teenagers with shots to heads
pioneer press ^ | 11-26-12 | Joseph Lindberg

Posted on 11/26/2012 5:01:34 PM PST by TurboZamboni

A man who killed two teenagers in his home in Little Falls on Thanksgiving Day told investigators he shot and wounded the two at close range before "finishing" them with shots to the head.

Byron David Smith, 64, was charged Monday, Nov. 26, in Morrison County District Court with two counts of second-degree murder without premeditation in the deaths of Nicholas Brady, 17, and his cousin Haile Kifer, 18.

Smith claims Brady and Kifer broke into his home and he was "fearful" they had weapons, according to the criminal complaint.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: banglist; burglary; execution; littlefalls; prison
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To: TurboZamboni
Whenever something really bizarre happens, meth is always involved.
61 posted on 11/26/2012 6:03:39 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Labor unions are the Communist Party of the USA.)
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To: DesertRhino

“...i doubt he really saved the streets from these hardened criminals.”

I think those criminals hardened quite a bit as rigormortis set in. *zing*


62 posted on 11/26/2012 6:04:05 PM PST by sagar
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To: CodeToad
When some criminals invade my home I'm not going to conduct an investigation as I don't know how many of them are there, what guns they have or will draw on me , I will shoot first and ask questions later, shoot with a high calibar semiautomatic weapon . I advise all to do the same. Of course you can sit there and ask questions and so and let some thug or yute draw and shoot or torture you to death as i have read so many stories of but I don't recommend that.
63 posted on 11/26/2012 6:04:40 PM PST by rurgan (give laws an expiration date:so the congress has to review every 4 years to see if needed)
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To: DesertRhino

No one nows the truth in this story- but...

His neighbors say he was a scary loner-( from locaL news)
shot his guns off at ALL hours-
The girl was in an “alternative highschool”- troubled youth
The boy has been arrested before-

Now - multiple homes broken into- and this guy may
have had his residence “burgled” before-

Last... Mineeeesota Has No Death penalty- and the prisons are pretty neat-


64 posted on 11/26/2012 6:04:40 PM PST by mj1234
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To: bigheadfred
There is nothing wrong with what this guy did.

Nonsense. Once the intruders were neutralized and no longer a threat, executing them becomes a crime in and of itself. The guy can try to make the argument that the wounded youths were still a threat. Good luck with that.

Having your home broken into does not convey unlimited rights to assault the intruders with a firearm, nor should it.

I'm very much a "Castle Doctrine" believer, but the facts of this case seem to indicate that the homeowner committed a crime far greater than that which was committed against him.

65 posted on 11/26/2012 6:05:08 PM PST by sargon
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To: bigheadfred
uh, he shot them, disabled them, and shot them again to make sure they were dead.

Just tracking through his story he used his deadly force to defend himself. Then, when they were disabled, he used deadly force to kill them.

There's some passage of time between the events as well ~ between disabling them and killing them.

That's considered MURDER!

Actually, I don't believe his story.

66 posted on 11/26/2012 6:05:53 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Valpal1

He first wounded both of them below the waist, and then later shot them in the face, close up and personal, he even moved the girl before finishing her off face to face.

I think that we can figure that he was talking to them as he was killing them.


67 posted on 11/26/2012 6:07:05 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischers successful run in Nebraska)
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To: driftdiver

The autopsy should cover much of this ~ he shot her several times according to his claim. Bet he stuck more in her than bullets.


68 posted on 11/26/2012 6:07:48 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: CodeToad
Why do we think the only people allowed to execute anyone is the government?

Well in this case the executioner WAS a government employee -- a retired security officer from the State Department.

Why indeed???

69 posted on 11/26/2012 6:10:39 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: DesertRhino; All

Advice to all, drew your gun quickly shoot and ask questions later otherwise this is what they could do to you if they get the draw on you, they tortured this couple for 2 days then murdered them :

http://voices.yahoo.com/the-worst-crime-youve-never-heard-of-314227.html

Christopher Newsom, 23 and Channon Christian, 21 were on a date in Christian’s Toyota 4-Runner on the evening of January 6, 2007. At some point along their route, they were approached by four black men demanding possession of their vehicle. It’s unclear whether or not the couple complied with the request, or attempted to flee. At some point in the struggle the attempted carjacking turned to something more sinister. The perpetrators kidnapped the couple and took them back to a residence belonging to one of the four kidnappers. Upon arrival Newsom and Christian were restrained. Autopsy records indicate Newsom was sodomized, sexually mutilated and then shot several times. His body was then doused with gasoline and burned near railroad tracks running behind the house. His girlfriend, Channon Christian was forced to witness her boyfriend’s torture and subsequent murder. Police believe over the next two days, Christian was repeatedly gang-raped by these four thugs. Some reports indicate she was also sexually mutilated before her death. To cover any “evidence,” these savages poured drain cleaner down Christian’s throat before strangling her and disposing of her body in a large kitchen trashcan.


70 posted on 11/26/2012 6:11:17 PM PST by rurgan (give laws an expiration date:so the congress has to review every 4 years to see if needed)
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To: rurgan

Yeah, sane people, real men, question this kind of deed.

“”After a few minutes, Kifer began coming down the stairs and he shot her as soon as her hips appeared, he said.

After shooting her with both the Mini 14 and the .22-caliber revolver, he dragged her next to Brady. With her still gasping for air, he fired a shot under her chin “up into the cranium,” the complaint says.

“Smith described it as `a good clean finishing shot,’” according to the complaint.””


71 posted on 11/26/2012 6:11:49 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischers successful run in Nebraska)
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To: rurgan
‘When some criminals invade my home I'm not going to conduct an investigation as I don't know how many of them are there, what guns they have or will draw on me , I will shoot first and ask questions later, shoot with a high calibar semiautomatic weapon . I advise all to do the same. Of course you can sit there and ask questions and so and let some thug or yute draw and shoot or torture you to death as i have read so many stories of but I don't recommend that. ‘
Good points!
Last year, a similar killing happened a few miles away from me. Only the druggy youths killed three people, raping the 92 year old woman after killing her. This realville,not some soppy soap opera.
Just a tip.
Do not break into my house.
Just a word to the wise.
If there is a defense fund for the victim of the attack, I will send money to it.
TWB
72 posted on 11/26/2012 6:12:01 PM PST by TWhiteBear (Sarah Palin...The Flame of the North)
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To: TurboZamboni

When the SHTF, we will have many more of these incidents. In some cases, nice, good looking kids will be killed while looking for food, and in other cases, a van will pull up with 3 guys with ARs looking for food and whatever else they can find. Of course, the media puts out a story of a kook recluse with a wild looking mug shot and two beautiful looking teens.
If someone breaks into your house, you shouldn’t have look up castle law cases before reacting. And shouting out to the intruder, “watch out I have a gun” will give away your position and might be followed by a few rounds in your direction.
But that being said, this guy sure had a sick streak. Finishing them off and not calling the police right away will not win him any points.


73 posted on 11/26/2012 6:12:27 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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To: muawiyah

He thought this sounded better than whatever it was that he actually did, that’s the amazing thing.

I couldn’t begin to guess what that might have been, but serious nuttery is not at all out of the question.


74 posted on 11/26/2012 6:12:38 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Uncle Chip; driftdiver; DesertRhino
My grandfather had been a postal guard/policeman back in the Depression ~ lots of occasions to have to brandish his firearm. But when he was retired and in his 80s he and grandmother were standing at a bus stop waiting to go downtown and a street thug approached them with a pistol to rob them.

The criminal got close, Grandma threw up her hands knocking the gun into the air and Grandpa caught the pistol and put the dude on the ground in a front leaning rest until the cops showed up.

Here's a State Department security officer who's barely 62 years of age ~ he took these kids down in a NY second ~ then he killed them.

75 posted on 11/26/2012 6:13:16 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah; sargon; DesertRhino

Yeah, I know.

But what would the world be like if we all agreed on something?

LOL


76 posted on 11/26/2012 6:15:03 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: CodeToad

Self defense is what you do to save you or others. Killing because you are mad, or to enforce your non-bible supported worldview, of death for a theft is simply murder. Life is better when you can avoid murder.

No, seriously.

It’s a challenge to train Marines and cops to the point that they will enter a room where rifle fire is happening. And we are to believe this 18 year old girl just does it without even calling out for the guy who just went in ahead of her? And then she laughs when hit in the gut or lower with a 223 from a few feet away.

Sure,,, it happened just like that.


77 posted on 11/26/2012 6:15:47 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: okie01
The photograph accompanying the article shows the home sitting on what appears to be at least a one acre lot.

According to Zillow, it sits on a tad less than 8 acres.

78 posted on 11/26/2012 6:16:20 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: TWhiteBear; rurgan

Since no one disagrees with shooting a burglar if you feel in danger, then why are you pretending that is what this thread is about?


79 posted on 11/26/2012 6:16:20 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischers successful run in Nebraska)
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To: TurboZamboni

Enjoy life in prison doofus.


80 posted on 11/26/2012 6:17:21 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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