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No sex? Permission to speak freely, Sir. (West Point memoir by Laura Cannon)
Washington Post ^ | 11-23-12 | Laura Cannon

Posted on 11/26/2012 6:11:33 PM PST by dynachrome

What would I do if I were in charge? I’d abolish General Order No. 1. Keep the rules that protect soldiers from sexual harassment. But allow deployed officers and troops to have sex while at war. West Point should come to its senses as well.

West Pointers and other military service members endure tremendous sacrifices. We appreciate the adoration and respect we receive. In that same spirit, I ask the public to accept and forgive our weaknesses. It’s okay to be disappointed, but please don’t be misled. Beneath the heavy combat gear and impressive uniform, we’re human, just like you.

warvirgin@gmail.com

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: military; nosex; sex; sluts; usma; waronterror; westpoint
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Ummm, yeah,this will improve combat readiness in a war zone, right?
1 posted on 11/26/2012 6:11:46 PM PST by dynachrome
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To: dynachrome

Hey Laura,

Go to Nevada and join a brothel.

You sound like you’d be happier.

lol


2 posted on 11/26/2012 6:15:07 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: dynachrome

Anybody seen Paula Broadwell lately?


3 posted on 11/26/2012 6:15:14 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: dynachrome

Sounds like someone who thinks the military is a social club, joined for the government benefits.... will probably go AWOL if ordered to a war zone.


4 posted on 11/26/2012 6:17:09 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: dynachrome; All

We’ve become a silly country. Bad things happen to silly countries.


5 posted on 11/26/2012 6:18:53 PM PST by x1stcav (Breathe deep the gathering gloom.)
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To: dynachrome

Gen Petraeus approves this message.


6 posted on 11/26/2012 6:19:28 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Global Warming is a religion, and I don't want to be taxed to pay for a faith that is not mine.)
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To: GeronL

The comments are not kind to the idiot author:

“gfmucci wrote:

11:04 AM MST

” Laura personifies why women should NOT be in the front line/high stress jobs in the military. She lacks the the discipline, morals, and character to be out there. She seeks to gut the military of all the rules except the ones that please her. Geesh, it would be nice if all of life was like that. Idiot”


7 posted on 11/26/2012 6:20:48 PM PST by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: dynachrome

I was a War Virgin. 1966-1968. Vietnam. I wasn’t about to bring any STD’s home with me. Twenty five percent of the “opposites” out there can give you a disease that you will carry all of your life.


8 posted on 11/26/2012 6:21:12 PM PST by svxdave (Life is too short to wear a fake Rolex.)
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To: dynachrome

wow


9 posted on 11/26/2012 6:21:34 PM PST by petitfour
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To: ClearCase_guy

Maybe Petraeus will appointed Secretary of Defense and this is part of the cover.


10 posted on 11/26/2012 6:23:21 PM PST by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: petitfour
Are this woman’s parents still alive? Does she want to have children someday? That a young woman would sign her name to this missive and publish it, knowing it will be out there FOREVER, is yet another sign that the apocalyptic age has begun.
11 posted on 11/26/2012 6:26:58 PM PST by utahagen
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To: dynachrome

“Does West Point succeed in stifling one of the most basic of human urges?”

Does this pathetic POS realize that the military will order you to risk you life, in spite of “one of the most basic of human urges” - the urge to stay alive at all costs? Talk about someone who remains clueless in spite of life going on around her...

But then, someone ashamed of her “former Jesus obsession” may not have a good understanding of ANYTHING.


12 posted on 11/26/2012 6:32:38 PM PST by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
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To: dynachrome


This idea is long overdue. I mean, like... it's umm, every woman's right to have unrestricted sex at government expense.


13 posted on 11/26/2012 6:32:56 PM PST by Baynative
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To: dynachrome
Get rid of the faggots and women from the military and your problems cut down drastically.

The military man's job is not to be a policeman, or a nation builder, or to look good in a skirt. It is to seek out, close with, and destroy the enemy. It is to outsmart and out pace so that he can kill the enemy in the most effective manner possible. It is to demoralize and destroy. It is not a job for women.

I don't care about your daughter, your neighbor's niece Sally, or some local chick you read about in the paper that you're all really proud of. I'm sure they're good at whatever it is they do and I'm happy for them.

But when it comes down to no BS killing - that is a man's job. And so long as women are near a fighting man in a combat zone, most of the men will view her job as legs in the air......unless it is strictly clerical or a nurses corps there is no place in the military for women.

14 posted on 11/26/2012 6:34:56 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: dynachrome
"I didn't want Hillary," "and I don't want you." US
15 posted on 11/26/2012 6:36:38 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: svxdave
I guess you never heard of condoms.
16 posted on 11/26/2012 6:37:58 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: Repeat Offender

I second you opinions. thanks


17 posted on 11/26/2012 6:39:23 PM PST by annieokie
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To: annieokie; Repeat Offender

I agree with your agreement.


18 posted on 11/26/2012 6:41:37 PM PST by petitfour
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To: dynachrome

West Pointless


19 posted on 11/26/2012 6:41:57 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (There goes the dominoes...)
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To: Mr Rogers

Jesus obssession sounds like a lame excuse to me, I honestly struggle and repent weekly at communion of letting thoughts of Jesus take a back seat to a long host of distractions. Honestly, she sounds more like she has an axe to grind with him. All I have to say is, “good luck, been there, done that, didn’t make me into a happier, better person, but I did eventually come to my senses and realize where my brain and soul were going, and turned around from there. I invite you to do the same.”


20 posted on 11/26/2012 6:45:15 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: dynachrome
Something really, really bad is coming to this country . It is out there moving through the dark. We just don't know we are on a rendezvous path with it. Fools like this dishonor the Army, the USMA, and all those who have gone before in the ‘Long Grey Line’. Does this sorry person not remember the words to the alumni song.
21 posted on 11/26/2012 6:53:06 PM PST by robowombat
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To: Repeat Offender

Amen, Brother!


22 posted on 11/26/2012 6:54:26 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: Repeat Offender; dynachrome
But when it comes down to no BS killing - that is a man's job. And so long as women are near a fighting man in a combat zone, most of the men will view her job as legs in the air......unless it is strictly clerical or a nurses corps there is no place in the military for women.

Agree completely.

In times past a very few women DID fight alongside men (Revolutionary War, Civil War) but only AFTER they had gone to great lengths to hide their sex -- not flaunt it.

23 posted on 11/26/2012 6:55:01 PM PST by thecodont
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To: dynachrome
guess it's a good thing the stooopid cow isn't in charge then...
24 posted on 11/26/2012 6:58:08 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: dynachrome

It just amazes me that people will write this stuff and put their name to it - she apparently actually thinks this makes sense.


25 posted on 11/26/2012 7:04:56 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: dynachrome
On one hand, women are fine in support positions.Somewhere in the rear lines.
When a man is in a combat situation it is not a good idea to have women around. Not because some woman would not, or could not, do the job but because men have a hardwired response to "save the woman" that might interfere with combat duties.

On the other hand, it is not reasonable to expect a man to be deprived of female company when not in a combat situation for, literally, years while in the military.
I know that some men do, voluntarily, refrain from active participation in fraternizing with any women while on active military duty.
My hat is doffed to them.

That doesn't mean that all men should be subjected to stiffness of the, ahhh, neck while in the military.

26 posted on 11/26/2012 7:06:52 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Eh, she’s selling a book. She can exaggerate and lie. it will get her $$$$


27 posted on 11/26/2012 7:09:18 PM PST by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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Especially when Officers and staff NCO’s have sex with Jr. enlisted. I mean what could go wrong there? Apparently this clown never heard of the saying, that you don't crap where you eat.
28 posted on 11/26/2012 7:11:17 PM PST by JimC214
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To: Repeat Offender
The military man's job is not to be a policeman, or a nation builder, or to look good in a skirt. It is to seek out, close with, and destroy the enemy. It is to outsmart and out pace so that he can kill the enemy in the most effective manner possible. It is to demoralize and destroy.

Conan, what is best in life?
"To crush your enemies -- See them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women!"

29 posted on 11/26/2012 7:11:52 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Repeat Offender
And so long as women are near a fighting man in a combat zone, most of the men will view her job as legs in the air......unless it is strictly clerical or a nurses corps there is no place in the military for women.

Agreed. And the men are therefore distracted from their mission. You can't escape the male/female thing. When they're together they're attracted to one another.

30 posted on 11/26/2012 7:14:55 PM PST by Lizavetta (You get what you tolerate)
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To: dynachrome
I knew having women at West Point was a bad idea from the get-go. This "article" is proof positive that this woman certainly didn't learn anything from all those "rules". I guess rules are for other people.

It becomes more apparent to me each day that I have become a social dinosaur. Flame away - I'd be interested in your comments. But rest assured you will not change my opinion.

31 posted on 11/26/2012 7:22:02 PM PST by USMA '71 ((Re-elect no one!))
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To: dynachrome

Sandra Fluke, please pick up the red courtesy phone.


32 posted on 11/26/2012 7:28:34 PM PST by mykroar (BAD-ANON: One Game At A Time)
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To: dynachrome

Up to now the PC logic was that Soldiers were supposed to be so professional that they would be robots and not act on any attraction to the other sex. Guess now she’s saying “Yeah that’s BS, but who cares let us hump away like it’s a real life episode of MASH.” Please don’t let her be a graduate of my Company. Oh, and take your saying Jesus obsession and shame of being an unmarried virgin and stick it where the son don’t shine.


33 posted on 11/26/2012 7:29:38 PM PST by chargers fan
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To: JimC214

“Especially when Officers and staff NCO’s have sex with Jr. enlisted. I mean what could go wrong there? “

The same thing that happens today, degradation of moral and discipline.

It goes on today.


34 posted on 11/26/2012 7:29:41 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: chargers fan

I should probably add to this that I have no problem if a married couple is deployed together to a big support base letting them live together.


35 posted on 11/26/2012 7:37:37 PM PST by chargers fan
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To: dynachrome

http://massmouth.ning.com/profile/LauraCannon


36 posted on 11/26/2012 7:41:54 PM PST by narses
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To: dynachrome

I read Heinlein’s Starship Troopers too.

Boy, the Academy was not much fun until I met Mary Beth at Ladycliff outside the gates. One time we got caught by the Mother Superior in her office late on a Saturday night. We made our escape while she went for penguin reinforcements.

My philosophy is “More freedom, not less”.

Seriously, I was a unit commander. The troops need the emotional release. If I had my way, there would be a grog ration in the MRE as well.


37 posted on 11/26/2012 7:51:46 PM PST by darth
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To: dynachrome

I guess this proves she’s completely over her ‘Jesus obsession’.


38 posted on 11/26/2012 8:21:14 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: x1stcav

“We’ve become a silly country.”

It’s embarrassing, it really is.


39 posted on 11/26/2012 10:27:23 PM PST by jocon307
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To: dynachrome

Sure, our military could be like a frat house.

We’d be so effective in the next war /s


40 posted on 11/26/2012 10:34:39 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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Two things here.
First
I know that some men do, voluntarily, refrain from active participation in fraternizing with any women while on active military duty.

I’m retired military and I have never seen a single person in the military swear off sex for the time of their enlistment, not on ever.

Second.

The lifestyle of the military combat troops, when not in on duty or in combat, is one of “party hard today for tomorrow may never come.” It has been that way for a very long time and they are still the best in the world.

People really should not make posts when they are void of real and true information. This notion that they are all sitting around a tent or bunker waiting to put their boots back on is laughable. They are human, young and in their prime. What they do is the same as any other young humans.


41 posted on 11/26/2012 11:16:35 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: dynachrome
Laura "War Virgin" Cannon is a stand up comedian.


42 posted on 11/26/2012 11:29:02 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: robowombat

So true, child sacrifice is rampant, I’m afraid all those babies that were aborted were actually sacrificed by the elites to usher in something truly horrible, and I’m afraid it’s here, ascended from the depths of hell, an unspeakable evil that preys on immorality and those who hate God! The Spaniards were the comeuppance for the Aztec’s human sacrifice, I’m afraid ours will be much worse!


43 posted on 11/26/2012 11:34:17 PM PST by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: oldenuff2no

“People really should not make posts when they are void of real and true information. This notion that they are all sitting around a tent or bunker waiting to put their boots back on is laughable. They are human, young and in their prime. What they do is the same as any other young humans.”

I am not under the delusion that no one in the military has sex.

Many of them are married, anyway, right?

I recall that the government issues condoms to the men, do they not?

But I do think adultery is punished, and that soldiers doing each other is really, really bad for combat readiness.

No reason to assume I don’t know what I’m talking about.


44 posted on 11/26/2012 11:36:13 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Persevero
No they do not issue condoms to the men. The men buy them at the PX.
Yes many of the men are married and their wives are not all that faithful much of the time. They too are young and in great shape and in their prime and doing what young ladies also do. The highest divorce rate that I know of is in military marriages. The first time I ever saw a swingers party that I actually knew what it was was in a base housing area. By far it was not the last one I saw while there. Sex happens all the time on military instillation's. And sex happens all the time when the men and Ladies are deployed.
45 posted on 11/27/2012 1:48:42 AM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: Persevero
No they do not issue condoms to the men. The men buy them at the PX.
Yes many of the men are married and their wives are not all that faithful much of the time. They too are young and in great shape and in their prime and doing what young ladies also do. The highest divorce rate that I know of is in military marriages. The first time I ever saw a swingers party that I actually knew what it was was in a base housing area. By far it was not the last one I saw while there. Sex happens all the time on military instillation's. And sex happens all the time when the men and Ladies are deployed.
46 posted on 11/27/2012 1:49:00 AM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: oldenuff2no

“No they do not issue condoms to the men.”

I seem to remember them being issued to soldiers overseas in WW2, according to a documentary I saw. Perhaps it was in error.


47 posted on 11/27/2012 2:46:50 AM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: dynachrome

“We will not lie, cheat or steal, nor tolerate those who do.”

Honor Code, eh?


48 posted on 11/27/2012 5:27:13 AM PST by onedoug
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To: oldenuff2no
I’m retired military and I have never seen a single person in the military swear off sex for the time of their enlistment, not on ever.

I think this comment should have been posted to me as I was the one that posted the thought you commented on.

First, thank you for your service. I didn't retire from the military but I did serve.
Second, I assure you that while in the Navy I did know several men that did not have sex with anyone else. At least not while we were serving on the same ship.
I knew these men well. They were God fearing Christian men who were not married yet and were waiting for marriage before having sex.

I do not pretend that I was one of these men.

49 posted on 11/27/2012 7:07:14 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Just another Joe
I”ll grant you this “several men” number. Now we are at a few men in a million and that is supposed to represent the norm? That doesn't work for a third grader doing the math. It did not even set the norm on your ship. These are inconsequential numbers and are most defiantly not the normal conduct of our military personnel.
50 posted on 11/27/2012 7:22:04 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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