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Do You Live In A Death Spiral State?
Forbes ^ | November 25,2012 | William Baldwin,

Posted on 11/26/2012 6:19:48 PM PST by Hojczyk

Don’t buy a house in a state where private sector workers are outnumbered by folks dependent on government.

Thinking about buying a house? Or a municipal bond? Be careful where you put your capital. Don’t put it in a state at high risk of a fiscal tailspin.

Eleven states make our list of danger spots for investors. They can look forward to a rising tax burden, deteriorating state finances and an exodus of employers. The list includes California, New York, Illinois and Ohio, along with some smaller states like New Mexico and Hawaii.

Let’s say you are a software entrepreneur with 100 on your payroll. If you stay in San Francisco, your crew will support 139 takers. In Texas, they would support only 82. Austin looks very attractive.

Ranked on the taker/maker ratio, our 11 death spiral states range from New Mexico, with 1.53 takers for every maker, down to Ohio, with a 1-to-1 ratio.

Conning rates North Dakota the safest state to lend money to, Connecticut the most hazardous. A state qualifies for the Forbes death spiral list if its taker/maker ratio exceeds 1.0 and it resides in the bottom half of Conning’s ranking.

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bluestates; statecrisis; statedebt; top10
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To: cripplecreek

Too funny. LOL!


21 posted on 11/26/2012 7:04:35 PM PST by TADSLOS (Welcome to the new Plastic Banana Republic- We''ll Make You Feel Good to be Poor)
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To: Hojczyk

I’m shocked that New Jersey isn’t on this list. I guess the one thing it has going for it as far as this list is concerned is that it’s simply too expensive for retirees to hang around here.


22 posted on 11/26/2012 7:06:12 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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To: rabidralph

You mean North Dakota?

that’s where the oil boom towns are.


23 posted on 11/26/2012 7:07:09 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Hojczyk
California will be the first go into bankruptcy.
24 posted on 11/26/2012 7:08:48 PM PST by Logical me
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To: GeronL

Its a confusing world. I went past a longhorn ranch down the road from were I grew up on thanksgiving. (Triple R ranch) Apparently they’re one of the top breeders of Texas longhorns in Michigan.

http://www.rrrlonghorns.com/


25 posted on 11/26/2012 7:08:48 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Hojczyk
Austin looks very attractive.

Bear in mind that various F.R. Texans have stated that Austin is a hot bed of liberalism, one of the few in Texas.

26 posted on 11/26/2012 7:13:16 PM PST by Graybeard58 (What G.O.P.e. candidate is in store for us in 2016?)
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To: annieokie

The demolition of DelRey will make room for the new bridge, warehouses, and truck terminals. Its one of the worst areas of Detroit and those folks will probably get a better deal through eminent domain than they’ll ever get on the open market.


27 posted on 11/26/2012 7:14:55 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Hojczyk

Death Spiral State bump for later.........


28 posted on 11/26/2012 7:19:34 PM PST by indthkr
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To: cripplecreek

I’ve visited various areas in Michigan and on the whole, I have had pleasant experiences. Battle Creek, Lansing, Saginaw, Kalamazoo, Grand Rapids, Sault Ste. Marie.

The cities of Detroit & Flint do not represent Michigan any more than Chicago represents my state, Illinois.


29 posted on 11/26/2012 7:20:44 PM PST by Graybeard58 (What G.O.P.e. candidate is in store for us in 2016?)
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To: cripplecreek

Aren’t they always an artist?
My friends currently gabbing and met a guy on line....an artist.The guy goes from friends to friends homes looking for places to stay.


30 posted on 11/26/2012 7:22:35 PM PST by peteyd (A dog may bite you in the ass,but it will never stab you in the back.)
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To: Hojczyk

Forbes should be congratulated for coming up with the “death spiral state” concept — it’s a blast!


31 posted on 11/26/2012 7:23:03 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: Logical me
California will be the first go into bankruptcy.

Study the finances of Illinois, we are in a close race to the bottom with California.

32 posted on 11/26/2012 7:23:03 PM PST by Graybeard58 (What G.O.P.e. candidate is in store for us in 2016?)
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To: Graybeard58

Austin, Houston, San Antonio and Dallas :/


33 posted on 11/26/2012 7:28:14 PM PST by Bikkuri (Hope for Conservative push in the next 2-4 years..........)
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To: Graybeard58
My Michigan looks like this.

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34 posted on 11/26/2012 7:32:10 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Graybeard58

The best thing about Austin is that it’s only 10 min from Texas.


35 posted on 11/26/2012 7:34:01 PM PST by davetex (Sick of moochers)
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To: rabidralph

I’m always happy to telecommute anywhere. I don’t care how cold it gets I’ll telecommute in the dead of winter.


36 posted on 11/26/2012 7:36:24 PM PST by posterchild (Remember that thou art dust, and to dust thou shalt return.)
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To: peteyd

I’m an artist too but I keep my struggles to myself and don’t expect grants or anything.


37 posted on 11/26/2012 7:36:56 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Hojczyk

>>Austin looks very attractive.

It sure does. I’d like to help make Austin normal again.


38 posted on 11/26/2012 7:39:12 PM PST by Betis70 ("Leading from Behind" gets your Ambassador killed)
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To: Hojczyk

ping


39 posted on 11/26/2012 7:41:05 PM PST by TheCause ("that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States")
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To: Hojczyk
Rhode Island isn't on the list?! That's just wrong. And low-tax, right-to-work states are on the list? Something funny about this.
40 posted on 11/26/2012 7:41:21 PM PST by teflon9 (Political campaigns should follow Johnny Mercer's advice--Accentuate the positive.)
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