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Where's The Pressure On Dems To Cough Up Spending Cuts?
Investor's Business Daily ^ | 11/26/2012 | IBD Staff

Posted on 11/27/2012 5:35:57 AM PST by IBD editorial writer

Budget Policy: Republicans are being hounded mercilessly to abandon their no-tax pledge to get a deal on the fiscal cliff. So why aren't Democrats facing any pressure to compromise on entitlement spending? Every Republican who happens to bump into a reporter these days is sure to be grilled on tax hikes. [snip] But while GOP leaders have been signaling a willingness to cut a deal — even if it means agreeing to some form of tax hike — Democrats are digging in against any meaningful changes to out-of-control entitlement programs.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: entitlements; obama; republicans; taxes

1 posted on 11/27/2012 5:35:59 AM PST by IBD editorial writer
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To: IBD editorial writer

Answer: Because the corrupt MSM is really the DNC.


2 posted on 11/27/2012 5:37:39 AM PST by Obadiah (It pays to be a Democrat.)
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To: IBD editorial writer

When a republican is in office and congress is republican, we’ll see that pressure.

No party is going to lobby for their own spending cuts, which they could pass easily, but they will always lobby for the other party’s spending cuts...it’s the way it is and that’s why we never really get significant spending cuts.

What party would let their candidate run on a platform of spending cuts in their own party?


3 posted on 11/27/2012 5:43:26 AM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Obadiah

Why not let us alone for a change and go after Harry Reid and all the pork barrel money that’s wasted


4 posted on 11/27/2012 5:44:58 AM PST by deedeedog
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To: IBD editorial writer

Any R on radio or TV or print should be hounding this message and nothing else — Dems refuse to talk spending cuts. Our problem is too much spending, not insufficient taxing. Without spending cuts from the Dems, we go nowhere - print that, or broadcast that 20 times a day if necessary. We can change the storyline.


5 posted on 11/27/2012 5:47:58 AM PST by USNA74
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To: IBD editorial writer

Any R on radio or TV or print should be hounding this message and nothing else — Dems refuse to talk spending cuts. Our problem is too much spending, not insufficient taxing. Without spending cuts from the Dems, we go nowhere - print that, or broadcast that 20 times a day if necessary. We can change the storyline.


6 posted on 11/27/2012 5:48:19 AM PST by USNA74
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To: IBD editorial writer
Sigh...there ain't no pressure to cut spending....

....the 47+% are sitting out here like a big steaming pile of dog poop, growing, not EVER voting for anyone with a R beside their name....

...so...NO Republican who is desiring to be re-elected is going to agitate for any kind of tax cuts OR spending cuts lest the 47+% send them packing.

...."we" are so screwed....

7 posted on 11/27/2012 5:53:45 AM PST by B.O. Plenty (Give WAR a chance.......)
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To: USNA74

You post that as if the GOP or any (R) had a message to give that was different from the (D)....let along articulate and easily digested by the mass of stupid voters.

How’s this one (for FREE): “How much of your life are you willing to let the gov’t OWN you?”

Then break it down per Citizen.

I’d LOVE to see all spending bills having to be divvied up per State for payment. Having the States collect for the gov’t might finally show everyone where/what they are getting for the $$


8 posted on 11/27/2012 6:02:35 AM PST by i_robot73
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To: IBD editorial writer

Which means it isn’t the Republicans’ tax pledge that should be the subject of public outrage; it’s the Democrats’ refusal to abandon their big-spending ways.

OUTSTANDING editorial, IBD editorial writer! Exposing propagandists at work and presenting another point of view. Although...no name, no moving pictures, no smiling faces, no slick advertisements, no compassionate inflections, no compatriot amplification of message, etc., etc...you might as well be writing with invisible ink.

Thanks for being here.

BIG GOVERNMENT IS CRONY SOCIALISM. “Socialism Is Legal Plunder” - Bastiat


9 posted on 11/27/2012 6:06:40 AM PST by PGalt
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To: IBD editorial writer

Actually, the Current Occupant of the White Hut and the Democrat majority in the Senate ARE feeling the pressure, only in a different and much less publicized way.

In 2011, as part of the compromise to raise the debt ceiling limit, the Senate voted for, and the Current Occupant signed into law, the Budget Control Act, which reverts the tax rates to the level they were before the “Bush tax cuts” were pushed through, and takes an ax to the Federal spending for government programs.

Well, they got their increase in the Federal debt limit. Now that it is all spent (or soon will be), time to take the consequences. And how are they to renege, if no alternative gets through the House of Representatives?

But I suppose we should not discount the very real probability the Republican leadership will cave. Truth is, we are quickly running out of road to kick the can down.

Cue in that majestic plunge in the last scene of “Thelma and Louise”. The 1966 Thunderbird is forever suspended, in our imaginations, over the Grand Canyon.


10 posted on 11/27/2012 6:07:59 AM PST by alloysteel (Bronco Bama - the cowboy who whooped up and widened the stampede.)
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To: B.O. Plenty
I used to think people would get wise and insist upon a return to Constitutionally based leadership after the wheels come off.

But after last Nov 6 I can't even await the fiscal end with grim satisfaction anymore - when it comes I'm now convinced people will demand an emperor with absolute power.

11 posted on 11/27/2012 6:11:44 AM PST by skeeter
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To: IBD editorial writer

“So why aren’t Democrats facing any pressure to compromise on entitlement spending? “

Twofold: Beohner is a crying little wimp, as are 99% of the Republican representation. AND the ENEMIES in the press will conveniently ignore that spending is continuously increasing with nonstop in sight because they agree with it.


12 posted on 11/27/2012 6:13:06 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: IBD editorial writer

“Where’s the pressure on the Dems for spending cuts?”

That’s a joke, right? Oh, you kill me!


13 posted on 11/27/2012 6:15:29 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: IBD editorial writer
Where's The Pressure On Dems To Cough Up Spending Cuts?

There's no pressure for spending cuts, or compromise when Chambliss, McLame and the other RINOs have already surrendered.

14 posted on 11/27/2012 6:23:06 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty ( Fast and Furious , Benghazi - What's 0bama's current body count?)
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To: IBD editorial writer
Media says that the Dems' government spending is stimulus and is good.
Heck, we need more!

Here's a picture of the economy before stimulus and after:

More stimulus please!

15 posted on 11/27/2012 6:23:36 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Obadiah

The Democrats are not stupid.

Spending got them elected.

No way in hell will they vote to cut their own throats.

Now we can argue all day about whether or not this election was bought, but the fact is that it was. Bought with the money from those of us who work and pay taxes. If they stop making the payments to those who suck off the government, the Democrats will have to run without having purchasd the vote in advance.

That isn’t about to happen.

So they will bankrupt us buying votes.


16 posted on 11/27/2012 6:27:05 AM PST by Venturer
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To: IBD editorial writer

Haven’t you heard?
B0 has already made the tough decisions to slash spending by a trillion dollars over the next hundred years.


17 posted on 11/27/2012 6:36:46 AM PST by Zuse
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To: IBD editorial writer

One idea that the Liberal Agenda Media Elite, or LAME, will never mention is the fundamental difference between government and Business.

In Business, the main concern is profitability, and the imposition of a rigorous profit and loss disciple on all aspects of that business.

In the Federal Government, profit and loss are rarely considered, and when considered, usually ignored.

In government, the Federal Politician’s main concerns center around using their definition of ‘Bipartisam Compromise’ to achieve their primary goal of being re-elected.

A “BiPartisan Compromise” to a Democrat means NEVER give up any move to the Left concession agreed to by the Right, and if possible do not do what the Democrats promised to do in the Compromise.

For nearly 80 years now, the Democrats have demanded two steps to the Left, “Compromised” by agreeing to taking one step to the Right, which then gave them a net one step to the Left EVERY TIME that a ‘BiPartisan Compromise’ was made.

Thus, the US Federal Government has steadily moved always to the Left and with few exceptions almost always with a substantial financial loss.

The supporters of the RINOs have usually been very grateful to their Heros, the RINOs, for not allowing the Democrats to get all that they had at first demanded.

Thus, the RINOs get re-elected for doing a ‘good’ job, and the RINOs have job security for life.

Hence, we Conservatives must convince the RINO supporters to at least question their blind support of their Republicans In Name Only.


18 posted on 11/27/2012 6:40:16 AM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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Oh, didn’t you know? Obamacare is deemed to save untold trillion$. Lord Obama told us so.


19 posted on 11/27/2012 6:40:23 AM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: IBD editorial writer

Filling in for Rush yesterday Mark Steyn nailed it.

Look into their eyes in Washington, and it is clear they have NO INTENTION of EVER cutting spending or paying down the debt.


20 posted on 11/27/2012 6:53:41 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: IBD editorial writer

21 posted on 11/27/2012 7:12:33 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: IBD editorial writer

If the Republicans are going to cave on taxes and not get any spending cuts, they should:

1) Tell the Dems if they want to return to the Clinton tax rates, they’ve got it. But that means all brackets, not just the top.
2) Address the small business issue by setting up a new “small business” tax classification allowing small business owners to separate out their business income from personal income which will be taxed at the regular rates.
3) Tell the nation what spending reductions they’ve asked for and let the Dems kill the spending cuts.
4) Take the class warfare game up a notch by assessing a net worth tax on everyone with assets over $100 million. Call it the billionaires levy. Let Warren Buffet pay a 10% tax on his $46 billion of net worth since he finds the tax system so unfairly balanced toward the wealthy. Let Barbara Streisand, Tom Hanks, Michael Moore, Oprah, Will Smith and the rest of the entertainment elites with net worth under $1 billion but over $100 million pay 5% of the their net worth to the state they love.

In the 2014 elections run on the platform of - we did it your way and it failed. Two years of paying significantly higher rates, plus losing deductions, might cause the young upwardly mobile urban progressives to take a harder look at the value of the government programs they love.

When 8 of the top 10 wealthiest zip codes vote for the Dems in the last election I say let them have the higher taxes they voted for.


22 posted on 11/27/2012 7:21:33 AM PST by Soul of the South
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To: i_robot73

Along those lines, would be nice to have your 1040 automatically put in the amount of taxes paid in the previous one or two years so when you do the current year’s taxes you could quickly see how it’s going up, not down. For the idiot voters too dumb to see it without help - at least for 5 minutes they’d be stuck thinking about how much “more” they got from Uncle . . . or how much more was being redistributed away from them.


23 posted on 11/27/2012 7:29:50 AM PST by USNA74
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To: IBD editorial writer

The best way to pressure the Dims into spending cuts is for the Repubs to stand fast and not give an inch - it was a Dim idea to write the law that calls for sequestration so they could get away for another year with no budget and steep spending increases and it was a Dim president that signed the law into effect. They asked for it, they got it, let them have it.


24 posted on 11/27/2012 7:32:17 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: IBD editorial writer
Something that is not being addressed in the 'fiscal cliff' negotiations is regulatory reform, especially regarding the energy sector.

If the GOP had any cojones (yeah, I know ...), then approving the Keystone pipeline, opening ANWR and the outer continental shelf for oil and gas exploration, and reining in EPA/DOI overreach should be put on the table in any discussions about raising taxes.

25 posted on 11/27/2012 7:50:10 AM PST by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: Graewoulf

Correction: Line 5: “disciple” corrected to “discipline.”


26 posted on 11/27/2012 8:14:38 AM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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Where’s The Pressure On Dems To Cough Up Spending Cuts?

Victims of Lawful Plunder

Men naturally rebel against the injustice of which they are victims. Thus, when plunder is organized by law for the profit of those who make the law, all the plundered classes try somehow to enter — by peaceful or revolutionary means — into the making of laws. According to their degree of enlightenment, these plundered classes may propose one of two entirely different purposes when they attempt to attain political power: Either they may wish to stop lawful plunder, or they may wish to share in it.

Woe to the nation when this latter purpose prevails among the mass victims of lawful plunder when they, in turn, seize the power to make laws! Until that happens, the few practice lawful plunder upon the many, a common practice where the right to participate in the making of law is limited to a few persons. But then, participation in the making of law becomes universal. And then, men seek to balance their conflicting interests by universal plunder. Instead of rooting out the injustices found in society, they make these injustices general. As soon as the plundered classes gain political power, they establish a system of reprisals against other classes. They do not abolish legal plunder. (This objective would demand more enlightenment than they possess.) Instead, they emulate their evil predecessors by participating in this legal plunder, even though it is against their own interests.

It is as if it were necessary, before a reign of justice appears, for everyone to suffer a cruel retribution — some for their evilness, and some for their lack of understanding.

The Results of Legal Plunder

It is impossible to introduce into society a greater change and a greater evil than this: the conversion of the law into an instrument of plunder.

Where’s The Pressure On Dems To Cough Up Spending Cuts?

There is NO pressure. Your message WILL NOT BE TAKEN UP BY THE “opposition”/sarcasm PARTY.

Check$ and Balance$


27 posted on 11/27/2012 8:37:08 AM PST by PGalt
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Democrats suppotring out-of-control entitlement programs for fifty years,nothing new no change.
Next they will tell their fish they can make gold from chalk and pi$$ and they will take the bait.


28 posted on 11/27/2012 9:02:38 AM PST by Vaduz
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DEFUND any part of socialism? Why any of us would cave to the pressure of a million BIG BIRD march on our house pecking at our families. /sarcasm


29 posted on 11/27/2012 9:06:26 AM PST by PGalt
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