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GM rolls out new electric mini-car at LA Auto Show [Doubling Down on Failure]
AP ^ | 11-27-2012 | By DEE-ANN DURBIN

Posted on 11/27/2012 8:17:04 AM PST by Red Badger

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To: Red Badger

obama-air.j

Only limited by the length of your extension cord.

51 posted on 11/27/2012 9:38:11 AM PST by Foolsgold (L I B Lacking in Brains)
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To: Foolsgold

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_L-188_Electra

Although it wasn’t electric, the outcome is the same...........


52 posted on 11/27/2012 9:42:54 AM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: JPG

I suggest ‘Stay’............


53 posted on 11/27/2012 9:44:06 AM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: Gabrial

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If I were a South Korean living in South Korea, lived 5 miles from work, and could afford afford to pay about a $10,000 premium for an EV, I might consider buying one of these.

Government Motors has its head so far up Obama’s rear end you can see the logo when he opens his pie hole.


54 posted on 11/27/2012 9:44:54 AM PST by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse.)
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To: vette6387
"he get’s to charge up at work for free too"

That explains why his electric bill has not gone up

55 posted on 11/27/2012 9:46:32 AM PST by Mr. K (some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help...)
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To: Red Badger

Good one....and after a mile or two (if you’re lucky) that’s exactly what it’ll do.


56 posted on 11/27/2012 9:52:54 AM PST by JPG (Stay strong.)
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To: Vendome
"You have to really manage and plan trips to ensure you don’t get stranded somewhere and you can’t refuel/recharge like you can with a gas operated vehicle."

I was talking with a liberal relative over the Holiday about all-electric cars (non hybrids) and he claimed they operate just like a normal car. I said OK when I run out of gas out on the road I can go and get a can of gas start the car and be on my way. Show me how that works with an all-electric car>

He couldn't.

I asked him to plan a trip from Cincy Ohio to Cleavland and back using an all electric Prius. I can do it in 9 hours with a break for lunch in my gas powered car. He can't even get to Columbus one way without stopping for a recharge of around 4 hours or more. It would take him 3 or more full recharges to go one way.

He thought you just pulled into the electric filling station and filled up the electric tank in like 5 minutes and went on your way just like a real car.

57 posted on 11/27/2012 10:03:50 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: vette6387

“I guess what pisses me off is that he pays no road taxes on the electricity like the rest of us do when we fill up.”

Not to worry.

Within 15 years, you (and he) will be paying a “mileage tax” along with the gas tax that you now pay. The miles you drive will be automatically tallied and reported via GPS by the new in-car transmitters that all new vehicles will come equipped with. You’ll be sent a monthly road use bill to pay, just as you are sent monthly utility bills today.

Oh, you’ve got an older vehicle without the GPS equipment? In that case you’ll be required to report to your local “mileage check station” bi-annually so your mileage can be reported. Failure to do so will result in your being billed for a (high) “fixed road usage rate”.

Guess you won’t be so “pissed off” then, eh? :)


58 posted on 11/27/2012 10:04:58 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: Red Badger

The pic looks like they took the front end of the (now discontinued) Pontiac Vibe, and mated it to the rear end of the KIA “Soul”.

The car is being built in Korea, so I wouldn’t be surprised if there is some kind of partnership between GM and KIA for the design/manufacturing.

BTW, I actually like KIA’s Soul model — nice compact runabout for around-town, looks like it might be good for retired folks (easy entry/exit, etc.). But this thing looks ugly...


59 posted on 11/27/2012 10:08:48 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: JPG
I'd suggest Spank, Spit, Stink or Spew instead.

Splat, Sputter, doesn't matter as it's Scrap. Spark: an ignited particle produced by one hard body striking against another. That's the only attention these things will get as they sputter to a stop and get slammed by regular common-sense vehicles.

60 posted on 11/27/2012 10:09:14 AM PST by roadcat
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61 posted on 11/27/2012 10:11:03 AM PST by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: Da Coyote
Let us all remember GM’s motto, “There’s nothing out there that we cannot do worse.”

They just want to prove that the epic failure of "Les Volt" wasn't a fluke...

62 posted on 11/27/2012 10:17:37 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: Da Coyote

Auto makers are forced by Big Gov to produce this garbage.

The unrealistic mileage standards force them to create cars no one wants.


63 posted on 11/27/2012 10:21:53 AM PST by ChiMark (America no more)
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To: Red Badger

I can see the Right coming down on the Volt, due to the bailout and it’s inability to turn a profit.

What I don’t understand is the Left.

Where are all the ‘save the environment, ignoring everything else’ folks?

What’s interesting here, is that with the Volt, you find the Left validating everything we say about the Left.

1. Their arguments are fraudulent
2. They don’t really mean what they claim they do.
3. They don’t mind our tax dollars being destroyed under the guise of cleaning up the planet
4. They are unwilling to jump in and do what they claim everyone needs to do to save the planet

GM has given them exactly what they said they wanted. They demanded a cleaner car. Sure it has to be subsidized by tax dollars, but then almost all of the Left’s programs come under that business model.

So WHERE ARE the Leftist Volt buyers?


64 posted on 11/27/2012 10:38:23 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and 48 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: ZOOKER
I'm old enough to remember the rash of siphoning during the first fuel crisis. I see history repeating itself, but this time with extension cords.

I shop at Fry's in San Diego fairly frequently. There is a large concrete area in front of the store where all the motorcyclists park. My usual spot. There is an electric outlet on the outside of the building accessible to that area. Last Summer, the bike parking area had an unexpected intruder. A Nissan Leaf was pulled up to the building and stealing electricity while the owner shopped inside for a few hours. It was very discharged. He was trapped until there was enough power to go. I'm sure his wife spent a lot more money inside while waiting than he saved with stolen electricity vs gasoline.

65 posted on 11/27/2012 10:39:08 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: Disambiguator

Oh don’t worry, they certainly agree there. If they could find a way to force us all onto bicycles, they’d do it in a heartbeat.


66 posted on 11/27/2012 10:39:42 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and 48 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: Red Badger

Well, heck, now that the Supreme Court has said the government can make us buy things...


67 posted on 11/27/2012 10:41:41 AM PST by COBOL2Java (GOPe: Already prepping for their 2016 loss - Jeb Bush!)
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To: Red Badger

I absolutely do not believe his electric bill has not gone up a couple of hundred dollars

I drive 120 miles per day and it costs me about $60 week in gas. It appears he is doing twice that.

So his cost of going to work has dropped from almost $500 a month to nothing?

If I could do that and NOT see an increase in my electirc bill I would buy that electric car tomorrow.


68 posted on 11/27/2012 10:43:16 AM PST by Mr. K (some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help...)
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To: Red Badger

Ugly

Overpriced

No range

I will buy them all : )


69 posted on 11/27/2012 10:44:40 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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To: Red Badger
I can't understand it. The same people who implore me to "buy local" because the act of transporting my food will kill the earth want us all to drive electric cars that use batteries made in Canada from materials mined in china and installed in a car that possibly will be assembled in Mexico. And when recycling time comes for the batteries, who knows where they will be allowed to do the processing, but I bet the EPA won't let it be the USA.

My big diesel truck is more enviro-friendly. It is solidly built (last way longer than cheap light unibody) with a low maintenance (simpler design w/o all the emissions crap) engine. The ultimate recycling - I never have to replace it.

70 posted on 11/27/2012 10:45:29 AM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: Road Glide

They don’t need the GPS technology to pull the off. At least in Texas, they record the current mileage at annual inspection time. Easy enough to just take on a mileage based tax then.


71 posted on 11/27/2012 10:59:33 AM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: Red Badger

Government Motors now builds, what, 80% of its cars in other countries?


72 posted on 11/27/2012 11:12:21 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Mad Dawgg

LOL

I have a funny story but I don’t want to top yours. it went about the same .....ish...


73 posted on 11/27/2012 11:17:52 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: nikos1121

Try running them when the power has been out a few days, or sub zero temps....don’t work well in Idaho at all. Couldn’t even get to many homes in one of them due to some pretty primitive roads - and those roads sometimes lead to multi-million dollar homes....

Besides....it supports a non-American company...


74 posted on 11/27/2012 11:19:41 AM PST by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: ChiMark

Yes. In order to be able to sell Cadillacs, they have to sell ZEVs like the Volt.


75 posted on 11/27/2012 11:22:00 AM PST by NathanR
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To: Red Badger

Just bought a new 2013 Honda Accord. Has nearly 200 horsepower and runs 90 mph as easy as 10 mph. I have also nursed it p to 38 mpg on the freeway WITH the AC running!


76 posted on 11/27/2012 11:25:54 AM PST by Syntyr (Happiness is two at low eight!)
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To: Red Badger
Can you imagine the thousands upon thousands of GM employees that had to sign off on that design, from the original concept drawing, to marketing and top management, to the computer renditions, to the draftsmen, to the clay modelers, to the tooling designers, to the tool builders, to the robot programmers;

All to invest $ millions in an extraordinarily ugly piece of junk!

77 posted on 11/27/2012 12:05:32 PM PST by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: skinkinthegrass

You’ve seen the Smart Car; now for the Dumb Car!


78 posted on 11/27/2012 12:08:19 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: Noob1999

Success has many fathers, failure is an orphan.............


79 posted on 11/27/2012 12:20:25 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: TChris

True and he has many friends in D.C. with the same mind set.


80 posted on 11/28/2012 10:05:00 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Red Badger
Hey! We actually saw one of those on the road on Thanksgiving weekend.

The grandkids asked me to catch up with "that little-bitty green car ahead" (same yucky green as the photo) so they could figure out what it was. I said, "It's just some sort of Chevy", but they had me pull up close enough until they could read, "Spark".

Looked like a silent, green rollerskate to me. No way you could fit that Afro into it -- much less the dude wearing it...

Wouldn't survive a collision with a Vespa...

81 posted on 11/29/2012 7:12:28 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: TXnMA

What did the driver look like?

My guess is a single white female with jaw length page-boy haircut.........


82 posted on 11/29/2012 7:24:02 AM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: Red Badger
I was watching my driving; have to ask the grandkids when they get home from school...

My surprise was that we saw it on the road -- before they announced it at the car show...

83 posted on 11/29/2012 10:41:21 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: Red Badger

I have a new gnome who is on this project, wish I could talk about what I heard today, fingers in my ears going la la la la la.......


84 posted on 11/29/2012 10:43:54 AM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: TXnMA

There is a non-electric version, from Mexico, that may be what you all saw......


85 posted on 11/29/2012 11:10:42 AM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: TXnMA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevy_Spark#M300


86 posted on 11/29/2012 11:11:29 AM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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