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Reversing America's Decline
AT ^ | 11/27/2012

Posted on 11/27/2012 11:56:54 AM PST by Altura Ct.

The ongoing and not-so-gradual loss of American Civilization is the result of two related phenomena: the invasion of our country from the southern border, and our elites' culture of self-loathing that oozed out of the noxious slime of the 60's.

Western Europe is rapidly losing its own civilization for identical reasons (with invaders more poisonous than America's, and its own reproductive decadence, thrown in to expedite the process).

The first phenomenon -- the invasions -- wouldn't be happening in either place had they not been preceded by the second -- our elites' descent into cultural self-hatred.

All self-respecting civilizations defend themselves vigorously from hostile invaders.

Examples from the West's own past are legion:

Europe, circa AD 732 (Battle of Tours -- the Franks, in the heart of Europe, halt the onrush of imperialistic Arab Islam); the Spanish Reconquista, circa 800-1492...

The list could go on.

...Our task is not merely to stop the ongoing physical invasions of America and Europe. Those unopposed invasions, by groups most of whom who seek fundamental, culturally destructive revolution in both places, are the symptoms, not the causes, of our decay.

We must teach the young, and many others who've forgotten, the remedial truth that they are the luckiest generation in human history -- because they are the inheritors and beneficiaries of 2500 years of accumulated human material and moral improvement, about 95% of which has been the gift to them and to the world of the Greco-Roman, Judeo-Christian civilization of the West.

Once this indisputable truth is again widely appreciated in the West, the other critical insight can emerge: that the West has at least as much right as any other culture to preserve itself from the collapse that mass invasion by will cause.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


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1 posted on 11/27/2012 11:56:57 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: Altura Ct.

BTTT


2 posted on 11/27/2012 12:01:09 PM PST by NEWwoman (God Bless America)
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To: Altura Ct.

Reversing America’s decline?

Can be said in one word: impeachment.


3 posted on 11/27/2012 12:02:16 PM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Altura Ct.

There’s no way you’re going to reverse the decline of America until you first get a handle on our education system. What you are seeing in the ballot box is what you’re seeing in the classroom.


4 posted on 11/27/2012 12:05:48 PM PST by Taxbilly
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To: Altura Ct.

>Western Europe is rapidly losing its own civilization for identical reasons (with invaders more poisonous than America’s, and its own reproductive decadence, thrown in to expedite the process).<

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I can’t agree with the reasoning that invaders into Europe are any more poisonous than those coming into the USA.

The whole global and unidirectional migration from 3rd world to the West has been planned and executed by the UN at the detriment of the West.

And how has that migration benefitted the countries of the 3rd world? I don’t see any improvement in their quality of life.


5 posted on 11/27/2012 12:10:25 PM PST by 353FMG (The US Constitution is only as effective as those who enforce it.)
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To: Altura Ct.

For America to stop circling the drain, its people must first accept said drain is being circled. Most Americans have no clue as to why $16.5 trillion debt is a bad thing for the nation as a whole. Self-absorbed and self-interested as they are, their sole concern is getting their piece of the government pie.

After the gargantuan task of educating a questionably educable populace, leaders who will commit to traditional principles that brought America to greatness must be elected.

Minimally, a generation will pass before this ship can be righted again, if ever.


6 posted on 11/27/2012 12:10:29 PM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: Altura Ct.; All

A great awareness starts with education.

“Grinding America Down”
http://vimeo.com/52009124

The conclusion of the movie points to the path of saving America.


7 posted on 11/27/2012 12:11:23 PM PST by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: 353FMG
And how has that migration benefitted the countries of the 3rd world? I don’t see any improvement in their quality of life.

IMO, that was never the intent. The true intent was to destroy ours.

8 posted on 11/27/2012 12:11:52 PM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: himno hero
The conclusion of the movie points to the path of saving America.

I saw the movie, too... the path to saving America was based heavily on hope and prayer of a future enlightenment of the populace. Unfortunately, that pathway was essentially blown away by the reelection of Obama.

9 posted on 11/27/2012 12:15:09 PM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: Altura Ct.

I would definitely like to see our culture’s decline reverse itself, but I think that Belloc was right back in 1937 when he spoke at Fordham about the Crisi of Civilization being one that has come upon us because of events long ago. The Reformation destroyed the authority of the Catholic Church. Without the philosophy of Christendom, namely society being ordered to assist individuals to attain salvation, society has been left with the State as the supreme authority and that led to usury becoming common and capitalism which while, not in itself bad, created a large population that is dependent upon those who happen to have more money. This imbalance has ,ed to the false solution of communism which is inevitable unless we bring back the morality of the only Church which existed before the reformation. For Jesus prayed for unity not individual material bliss. The book by Belloc is called Crisis of Civilization and it is worth reading no matter what your bias.


10 posted on 11/27/2012 12:20:47 PM PST by RichardMoore (There is only one issue- Life: dump TV and follow a plant based diet)
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To: Altura Ct.

I would definitely like to see our culture’s decline reverse itself, but I think that Belloc was right back in 1937 when he spoke at Fordham about the Crisi of Civilization being one that has come upon us because of events long ago. The Reformation destroyed the authority of the Catholic Church. Without the philosophy of Christendom, namely society being ordered to assist individuals to attain salvation, society has been left with the State as the supreme authority and that led to usury becoming common and capitalism which while, not in itself bad, created a large population that is dependent upon those who happen to have more money. This imbalance has led to the false solution of communism which is inevitable unless we bring back the morality of the only Church which existed before the reformation. For Jesus prayed for unity not individual material bliss. The book by Belloc is called Crisis of Civilization and it is worth reading no matter what your bias.


11 posted on 11/27/2012 12:21:53 PM PST by RichardMoore (There is only one issue- Life: dump TV and follow a plant based diet)
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To: Altura Ct.

I would definitely like to see our culture’s decline reverse itself, but I think that Belloc was right back in 1937 when he spoke at Fordham about the Crisi of Civilization being one that has come upon us because of events long ago. The Reformation destroyed the authority of the Catholic Church. Without the philosophy of Christendom, namely society being ordered to assist individuals to attain salvation, society has been left with the State as the supreme authority and that led to usury becoming common and capitalism which while, not in itself bad, created a large population that is dependent upon those who happen to have more money. This imbalance has led to the false solution of communism which is inevitable unless we bring back the morality of the only Church which existed before the reformation. For Jesus prayed for unity not individual material bliss. The book by Belloc is called Crisis of Civilization and it is worth reading no matter what your bias.


12 posted on 11/27/2012 12:23:49 PM PST by RichardMoore (There is only one issue- Life: dump TV and follow a plant based diet)
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To: Altura Ct.
The ongoing and not-so-gradual loss of American Civilization is the result of two related phenomena: the invasion of our country from the southern border, and our elites' culture of self-loathing that oozed out of the noxious slime of the 60's.

Gotta disagree here.

The invasion from the south is of neither a quantity nor quality that we haven't handled in previous episodes of immigration. For instance, while reading a Civil War history recently I ran across the fact that in 1860 a majority of the inhabitants of WI were foreign-born.

The second claim hits closer to the mark, and is the reason we aren't handling assimilation well. Why should anyone want to assimilate into a despicable society, or at any rate one portrayed as such by its leaders?

But these people aren't "self-loathing," in fact it would be difficult to find any group in history with a higher opinion of itself.

What they are is "America-loathing" and on a higher level "Western Civilization loathing." Their very attitude of loathing for their own societies absolves them (in their own minds) of any of the sins of those societies.

So they can hate "America" and love themselves. In fact, they love themselves more because they hate "America."

This is, of course, why there is uncritical demand for random change and fundamental transformation of "America." Since "America" is the ultime evil, any change can only be an improvement.

13 posted on 11/27/2012 12:24:47 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Altura Ct.
Did I miss something or did you forget to mention legal immigration that brings in 1.2 million LEGAL immigrants each year, most of whom are poor, uneducated, and unskilled--and 87% of whom are minorities as classificed by the USG?

It was the Immigration Act of 1965 that changed the demography of this country forever. It was pushed by folks like Ted Kennedy who wanted America to look like the rest of the world. America was no longer to be a predominantly white nation dominated by Western Civilization and culture.

14 posted on 11/27/2012 12:33:52 PM PST by kabar
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To: ScottinVA

>The true intent was to destroy ours.<

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By George, you got it.

And if you’d try to stop that process you will be branded a racist.

And that is how whitey will lose his place on this earth. Aren’t you glad we created the UN?


15 posted on 11/27/2012 12:37:05 PM PST by 353FMG (The US Constitution is only as effective as those who enforce it.)
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To: Altura Ct.

I’m beginning to favor a kind of political judo whereby we give the f’ing democrats everything they want and when the bloated wreckage finally collapses we pick up the pieces and try to rebuild. The choice this time couldn’t have been plainer or easier and the nitwits chose disaster.

Reap and sow, etc.


17 posted on 11/27/2012 12:49:46 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Sherman Logan
The invasion from the south is of neither a quantity nor quality that we haven't handled in previous episodes of immigration. For instance, while reading a Civil War history recently I ran across the fact that in 1860 a majority of the inhabitants of WI were foreign-born.

Throughout most of our history, immigrants had a higher education level than most Americans. That is no longer the case.

The second claim hits closer to the mark, and is the reason we aren't handling assimilation well. Why should anyone want to assimilate into a despicable society, or at any rate one portrayed as such by its leaders?

They are not assimilating for a number of reasons. First, once you have a critical mass of numbers, you don't have to assimilate, especially when you can easily maintain daily contact with your home country and can still maintain familial ties.

Second, we have taught immigrants, the vast majority of whom are minorities, that there are benefits to being a minority and retaining that identity. Affirmative action and minority business set asides reward those who believe that they are victims. There are tangible benefits to retaining one's "tribal" identity.

Finally, they are not assimilating because they don't share the same sense of connection with our Founding Fathers who were white and Western European. They are associated with the same kinds of people that established colonies and dominance over minorities. For many who come from Latin America and Asia, white Europeans were not benign benefactors.

The U.S. adds one international migrant (net) every 36 seconds. Immigrants account for one in 8 U.S. residents, the highest level in more than 80 years. In 1970 it was one in 21; in 1980 it was one in 16; and in 1990 it was one in 13. In a decade, it will be one in 7, the highest level in our history. And by 2050, one in 5 residents of the U.S. will be foreign-born.

Currently, 1.6 million legal and illegal immigrants settle in the country each year; 350,000 immigrants leave each year, resulting in net immigration of 1.25 million. Since 1970, the U.S. population has increased from 203 million to 310 million, i.e., over 100 million. In the next 40 years, the population will increase by 130 million. Three-quarters of the increase in our population since 1970 and the projected increase will be the result of immigration. The U.S., the world’s third most populous nation, has the highest annual rate of population growth of any major developed country in the world, i.e., 0.963% (2011 estimate), principally due to immigration.

Demography is destiny. The US is not immune to the forces that have taken down other great nations and civilizations.

18 posted on 11/27/2012 12:54:47 PM PST by kabar
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To: Altura Ct.

The baby boomers will be the last. Alas the pill has doomed those to follow.


19 posted on 11/27/2012 12:56:00 PM PST by ex-snook (without forgiveness there is no Christianity)
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To: Altura Ct.

All self-respecting civilizations defend themselves vigorously from hostile invaders.

Yes...But we’re talking about liberals here!


20 posted on 11/27/2012 1:02:09 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Altura Ct.

21 posted on 11/27/2012 1:06:17 PM PST by kabar
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To: Altura Ct.

First off you would have to replace the moral decay in Hollywood and the MSM, they hurt the very people they are so
fond of.


22 posted on 11/27/2012 1:15:36 PM PST by ully2
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To: Altura Ct.
our elites' culture of self-loathing that oozed out of the noxious slime of the 60's.

Their loathing by libtards of the traditional values that made America great is a product mainly of a combination of three atheistic and materialistic worldviews that despise the values of the Founding Fathers and Christianity: secular humanism, Marxism, and postmodernism.If left unchecked, the ideas of these three have or will utterly destroy America.

23 posted on 11/27/2012 1:35:06 PM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: kabar
Throughout most of our history, immigrants had a higher education level than most Americans.

I seriously doubt this claim.

The massive influx of Irish in the early/mid 19th century was not composed of well-educated professional people, nor the huge numbers of Italian peasants coming in in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. The Chinese "coolies" of the second half of the 19th were not educated. To quote only three examples.

To be fair, of course, education was not nearly as critical to life success back then.

To address your other issues, it is probable that we assimilated the Jews, Italians and others that came in such huge number pre-WWI is probably because there was a decades-long moratorium on immigration, cutting them off, as you say, from fresh blood. No choice but to assimilate.

But I still firmly believe that the real issue is ideological. Immigrants are taught by our media that "their" culture is one to take pride in, and that "our" culture is one to be ashamed of. Why would anyone want to assimilate from a culture to be proud of into one they would need to be ashamed of?

24 posted on 11/27/2012 1:38:56 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Taxbilly

Agreed. The 100 years of Education Control by the Feds have finally destroyed America.


25 posted on 11/27/2012 1:43:45 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Altura Ct.; All
The ongoing and not-so-gradual loss of American Civilization is the result of two related phenomena: ...

If parents made sure that their children were taught the constitutional statutes which divide state and federal government powers, Section 8 of Article I, Article V and the 10th Amendment, and you could probably fit those statutes on two pages, then we probably wouldn't have the unconstitutionally big federal government that we have today.

In fact, since you indicated immigration issues, please note the following. Noting that Section 8 mentioned above says nothing about immigration, the 10th Amendment clarifies in general that the states had reserved government power to regulate immigration uniquely to themselves, not the Oval Office and Congress. But don't take my word for it. Consider Thomas Jefferson's 10A-based clarification that immigration is a state power issue.

"4. _Resolved_, That alien friends are under the jurisdiction and protection of the laws of the State wherein they are: that no power over them has been delegated to the United States, nor prohibited to the individual States, distinct from their power over citizens. And it being true as a general principle, and one of the amendments to the Constitution having also declared, that "the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people," the act of the Congress of the United States, passed on the -- day of July, 1798, intituled "An Act concerning aliens," which assumes powers over alien friends, not delegated by the Constitution, is not law, but is altogether void, and of no force." --Thomas Jefferson, Draft of the Kentucky Resolutions - October 1798.

Again, when citizens are not taught the constitutional division of federal and state government powers, they tend to naturally, but wrongly conclude that the federal government has unlimited powers.

26 posted on 11/27/2012 3:03:11 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: Sherman Logan
I seriously doubt this claim.

Nearly a quarter of American adults had less than five years of schooling in 1910. Only 13% completed high school and 2.7% from college. In 1900, only a little more than 10% of high school age children were actually enrolled in school.

Immigrants who arrived before the 1840s were for the most part similar to the native population, if not superior in education and ambition; they were rarely considered a problem by the native-born population. With the arrival of large numbers of Irish and German Catholics in the two decades before the Civil War, however, immigrants began to be seen as a threat to American society. The number of immigrants tripled between the 1830s and the 1840s, and the country received as many immigrants in the 1850s as in the two previous decades combined. Between 1845 and 1854 immigration increased the American population by 17.6 percent, a much higher rate than in the latter half of the twentieth century.

To address your other issues, it is probable that we assimilated the Jews, Italians and others that came in such huge number pre-WWI is probably because there was a decades-long moratorium on immigration, cutting them off, as you say, from fresh blood. No choice but to assimilate.

There was no decades long moratorium on immigration. We had reduced immigration levels that began in the 1920s that remained in force until 1965.

But I still firmly believe that the real issue is ideological. Immigrants are taught by our media that "their" culture is one to take pride in, and that "our" culture is one to be ashamed of. Why would anyone want to assimilate from a culture to be proud of into one they would need to be ashamed of?

We will agree to disagree. Here is a piece by Professor Huntington dealing with the problems of assimilation as it pertains to Hispanics

27 posted on 11/27/2012 3:19:11 PM PST by kabar
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To: ScottinVA

I don’t thinkso/

Its awareness. I believe America is unaware, uneducated and ill-informed. Most have no idea who or WHAT obama is/ represents.

There is no doubt his activities and the death of America is now at warp speed.

Perhaps I am the ill informed. I believe the movie needs to get out there... and be”in their faces”.


28 posted on 11/27/2012 4:22:14 PM PST by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: Altura Ct.

This article is a very nice way to say that white people are under attack by savages. I’ve given up trying to divide the warring groups by conservative vs liberal. Anyone with a brain in their head knows that Mau Mau Buckwheat hates white people, and he wants to kill white people by the millions. He is America’s Hitler. Fortunately, his army is composed of 20 IQ apes who can’t hold a glock straight. And fortunately for us, white Americans are the best fighters in the world, bar none.

Ban me.


29 posted on 11/27/2012 4:51:14 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: Sherman Logan

“I ran across the fact that in 1860 a majority of the inhabitants of WI were foreign-born”

They certainly were, but the difference is that the ‘foreign-born’ cited came from countries that had their foundation in European cultural values and philosphy.

That is certainly not the case now.


30 posted on 11/27/2012 5:02:37 PM PST by AbnSarge
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To: AbnSarge
They certainly were, but the difference is that the ‘foreign-born’ cited came from countries that had their foundation in European cultural values and philosphy. That is certainly not the case now.

Well, yes it is.

Unless Spain is not considered part of Europe. No reasonable person will determine that Spanish-American countries don't have their (primary) foundation in Spanish "cultural values and philosophy."

Now you can make quite a decent case that Spain is a special case in Europe, with its culture dramatically impacted by Muslim conquest and occupation. Although a Spaniard of the time would likely have killed you for saying so.

But Spain is still part of Europe, and Latin American countries are all more European than native in their culture, though the mix varies.

And I have yet to see anybody point out why an individual Mexican peasant in 2012 is inherently less capable of assimilation than a Sicilian peasant in 1912. Both were culturally dramatically different from the American mainstream.

In the early 20s the rate of immigration fell off a cliff, and in the next half-century the immigrants pretty thoroughly assimilated, being isolated from cultural influences from the mother country.

I see no reason the same couldn't be done today, except that our elites won't allow another hiatus in massive immigration.

31 posted on 11/27/2012 7:46:36 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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