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To: Altura Ct.
The ongoing and not-so-gradual loss of American Civilization is the result of two related phenomena: the invasion of our country from the southern border, and our elites' culture of self-loathing that oozed out of the noxious slime of the 60's.

Gotta disagree here.

The invasion from the south is of neither a quantity nor quality that we haven't handled in previous episodes of immigration. For instance, while reading a Civil War history recently I ran across the fact that in 1860 a majority of the inhabitants of WI were foreign-born.

The second claim hits closer to the mark, and is the reason we aren't handling assimilation well. Why should anyone want to assimilate into a despicable society, or at any rate one portrayed as such by its leaders?

But these people aren't "self-loathing," in fact it would be difficult to find any group in history with a higher opinion of itself.

What they are is "America-loathing" and on a higher level "Western Civilization loathing." Their very attitude of loathing for their own societies absolves them (in their own minds) of any of the sins of those societies.

So they can hate "America" and love themselves. In fact, they love themselves more because they hate "America."

This is, of course, why there is uncritical demand for random change and fundamental transformation of "America." Since "America" is the ultime evil, any change can only be an improvement.

13 posted on 11/27/2012 12:24:47 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
The invasion from the south is of neither a quantity nor quality that we haven't handled in previous episodes of immigration. For instance, while reading a Civil War history recently I ran across the fact that in 1860 a majority of the inhabitants of WI were foreign-born.

Throughout most of our history, immigrants had a higher education level than most Americans. That is no longer the case.

The second claim hits closer to the mark, and is the reason we aren't handling assimilation well. Why should anyone want to assimilate into a despicable society, or at any rate one portrayed as such by its leaders?

They are not assimilating for a number of reasons. First, once you have a critical mass of numbers, you don't have to assimilate, especially when you can easily maintain daily contact with your home country and can still maintain familial ties.

Second, we have taught immigrants, the vast majority of whom are minorities, that there are benefits to being a minority and retaining that identity. Affirmative action and minority business set asides reward those who believe that they are victims. There are tangible benefits to retaining one's "tribal" identity.

Finally, they are not assimilating because they don't share the same sense of connection with our Founding Fathers who were white and Western European. They are associated with the same kinds of people that established colonies and dominance over minorities. For many who come from Latin America and Asia, white Europeans were not benign benefactors.

The U.S. adds one international migrant (net) every 36 seconds. Immigrants account for one in 8 U.S. residents, the highest level in more than 80 years. In 1970 it was one in 21; in 1980 it was one in 16; and in 1990 it was one in 13. In a decade, it will be one in 7, the highest level in our history. And by 2050, one in 5 residents of the U.S. will be foreign-born.

Currently, 1.6 million legal and illegal immigrants settle in the country each year; 350,000 immigrants leave each year, resulting in net immigration of 1.25 million. Since 1970, the U.S. population has increased from 203 million to 310 million, i.e., over 100 million. In the next 40 years, the population will increase by 130 million. Three-quarters of the increase in our population since 1970 and the projected increase will be the result of immigration. The U.S., the world’s third most populous nation, has the highest annual rate of population growth of any major developed country in the world, i.e., 0.963% (2011 estimate), principally due to immigration.

Demography is destiny. The US is not immune to the forces that have taken down other great nations and civilizations.

18 posted on 11/27/2012 12:54:47 PM PST by kabar
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To: Sherman Logan

“I ran across the fact that in 1860 a majority of the inhabitants of WI were foreign-born”

They certainly were, but the difference is that the ‘foreign-born’ cited came from countries that had their foundation in European cultural values and philosphy.

That is certainly not the case now.


30 posted on 11/27/2012 5:02:37 PM PST by AbnSarge
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