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Hard work is pointless, young poor reckon
TheLocal.de ^ | 27 Nov 12 07:09 CET | (DAPD/DPA/The Local/jlb)

Posted on 11/27/2012 12:51:57 PM PST by Olog-hai

A third of poorer Germans do not think hard work will get them anywhere, while over half of the younger poor said they would never be able to climb the social ladder, a new survey shows.

An overwhelming majority of Germans on a low wage under the age of 30 said they believed it would be impossible to move up into the next wage bracket, according to the survey conducted by Allensbach pollsters for Bild der Frau women’s magazine.

One third of those questioned—regardless of age or income—said individuals could not get anywhere by trying alone, and that a person’s parental background played a far larger role than personal effort in where they ended up. …

Far from having given up the ghost, over two thirds of under-30s in Sweden were convinced hard work could get anyone anywhere, whereas just 28 percent believed climbing the social ladder was difficult. …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: eussr; lazypeople; millennials; socialism

1 posted on 11/27/2012 12:52:07 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Atlas went on disability.


2 posted on 11/27/2012 12:55:55 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Olog-hai

Coming to a country near you...


3 posted on 11/27/2012 12:56:25 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Olog-hai

Only a third? Not 47% ?


4 posted on 11/27/2012 12:56:59 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Olog-hai

Euro-trash.............


5 posted on 11/27/2012 12:58:54 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: Olog-hai

If your stomach isn’t growling, and you’re dry and warm, have a TV, probably a car, etc, all at someone else’s expense...

really, what does hard work get you?


6 posted on 11/27/2012 1:00:35 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Olog-hai

How would they know if they’ve never tried it?


7 posted on 11/27/2012 1:01:00 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment,a Matter of Fact,Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Olog-hai
For most of them, they are probably right. No matter how hard you work, how do you start from scratch in a state that takes so much in taxes, imposes all sort of stifling regulations, and undercuts ambition by making dependency so easy? This is our future btw.
8 posted on 11/27/2012 1:10:11 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Olog-hai

It’s already here too

welfare has become too comfy


9 posted on 11/27/2012 1:15:27 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Olog-hai
said individuals could not get anywhere by trying alone, and that a person's parental background played a far larger role than personal effort in where they ended up

It is the amount of one's ability, skills,and knowledge that one chooses to acquire by one's own personal effort, in addition to hard work and who your parents are that determine where one ends up in a free society.

10 posted on 11/27/2012 1:17:54 PM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: GeronL

You can also forget about self-esteem.


11 posted on 11/27/2012 1:21:07 PM PST by crosshairs (Hurricane Barry is 1000 times more destructive than Hurricane Sandy.)
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To: Olog-hai

“A third of poorer Germans” = Turks.


12 posted on 11/27/2012 1:29:45 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Working is for suckers.)
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13 posted on 11/27/2012 1:30:16 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Believe it or not, the article throws this out there, and pins the attitude displayed more onto natives:
Parents from Turkish backgrounds were generally more ambitious for their kids, with 70 percent of those with children under twelve wanting their offspring to move up socially, compared with 42 percent of all parents.
The study in question compared Swedish and German “poor” youth, generally. But media bias can of course not be discounted, nor is the difference between Christian and Muslim Turks expounded on (if significant).
14 posted on 11/27/2012 1:34:18 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

World Communism File.


15 posted on 11/27/2012 1:37:19 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Olog-hai

The logical conclusion to thinking that the wealthy are “winners in life’s lottery” who got what they have through inheritance, connections, rigged insider deals, etc.


16 posted on 11/27/2012 1:43:02 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Olog-hai

The year I started college, Vassar went co-ed.

I seriously thought about going. I figured they couldn’t all be playing on the same team, and the odds would certainly have been in my favor.

Sadly, I got a mostly marketable degree and had to work for a living. I must be “rich” now in spite of my poor undergraduate decision making, since my taxes are going up next year and Obie said that would only happen to “the rich”.


17 posted on 11/27/2012 2:03:52 PM PST by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: Olog-hai
UK "lost generation"
Graduates without a future are the new shock. Debt-burdened and scrambling for any barista job, many will never have the career they were told a degree would bring. The knock-on effect down the food chain means those with degrees displace others for that prized job tipping out coffee grounds at the espresso machine.
18 posted on 11/27/2012 2:13:11 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (There goes the dominoes...)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Your post is describing a “perfect storm” situation for creating the most massive government employment program ever conceived by mankind.


19 posted on 11/27/2012 2:24:41 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Olog-hai

Socialism and communism always fail because they’re backwards on THE LAW OF EFFECT. THE LAW OF EFFECT basically says that you generally receive more of the behavior you reward and less of the behavior you punish. If you punish hard-workers by taxing them and taking more of the money they’ve earned, then you will have less hard work. If you reward people (with tax money taken from hard workers) for doing nothing, then you will have more people doing nothing. It’s just not that hard to understand. The Democrats understand this. The problem is, they don’t care. They are out to enrich themselves, not have a better country.


20 posted on 11/27/2012 2:29:06 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I say let the Neets ride the buses for free. The buses are going to roll down the street whether the Neets are on them or not. May as well let them on as long as the Neets are going to school.

Hard part is convincing the Neets it is worth going to school in a poor economy.


21 posted on 11/27/2012 2:43:50 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (There goes the dominoes...)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Is that you, Mr. Obama?


22 posted on 11/27/2012 5:36:49 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

You don’t want to allow the Neets to ride the buses to school?


23 posted on 11/28/2012 12:47:28 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (There goes the dominoes...)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Had to see what “Neets” meant, from a search:

In fact, things have got worse: the phenomenon of Neets (young people “not in education, employment or training”) is on the rise.

More than 1.2 million 16- to 24-year-olds in England, Scotland and Wales - almost a fifth of the age group - are spending their time doing literally nothing, according to a study published last week....


24 posted on 11/28/2012 12:56:42 AM PST by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: 21twelve

This seems to be a spreading problem. Especially bad where their is an aging population. I read yesterday that in Japan more diapers are being sold for old people than for babies. That’s a scarey thought. It will be really bad if hard economic challenges get paired with a growing Neet problem.


25 posted on 11/28/2012 1:07:00 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (There goes the dominoes...)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

their = there


26 posted on 11/28/2012 1:08:32 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (There goes the dominoes...)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I use a guy on a as-needed, part-time basis. He works a warehouse job with very flexible hours. He has a B.Sc. degree in biology and worked two years after college for the County Health Department. They laid him off 4 years ago and he has been scrounging for decent work since. It is real tough though for him when he is competing against 500 guys with more experience than him.

Super bright guy too, likable, hard-worker, fast learner.


27 posted on 11/28/2012 1:27:45 AM PST by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: Red Badger
Euro-trash.............

Yes - we have met the Euro-trash and they are us....

28 posted on 11/28/2012 1:36:01 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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