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To: NormsRevenge
should we begrudge those who do seek to go in harm’s way, some as capable as their male counterparts, well aware of the risks?

Yes. Yes we should not only begrudge, but we should discriminate there is no place for women in the military let alone combat.

The number that are as capable as their male counterparts is very very few. And just because they are well aware of the risks, doesn't mean that I, as a fighting man, accept the risks associated with her.

There already are too many distractions on the battlefield and too many units left short handed because some chick got knocked up down range or just prior to the unit deploying. Yup, got it; it's the guy's fault too, but that doesn't change the fact.

The military does not exist as a social experiment. It does not exist to make people feel good, to build nations, to make equal opportunities for all.

As I iterated last night - It is to seek out, close with, and destroy the enemy. It is to outsmart and out pace so that he can kill the enemy in the most effective manner possible. It is to demoralize and destroy. It is not a job for women.

When it comes time to look at a group of muslim terrorist POS and dump a few 6-8 round burst on a rocking and rolling M240G or M240B and remove them from the the rest of humanity, that is the time of a fighting man.

Jessica Lynch supposedly knew the risks involved. And when the SHTF she was "huddled in a protective ball in her humvee." Now, I may have only done four back to back combat deployments, but I have never been taught this fearsome fighting position......most would say it is cowering in fear. And what happened? Another soldier died trying to protect a woman.

A woman that never learned how to properly clear a jammed weapon. Why? Because there was always a man around to do it for her. And when it mattered most she couldn't perform and another soldier lost his life. But don't worry, she was put in for the Bronze Star for that other soldier's bravery. And then we know the rest of the story about how she was captured.

But don't worry, it was denied she was raped and sodomized in order to prevent the rest of U.S. forces taking out vengeance on the enemy.

There has already been enough wussification of the U.S. military. We used to teach how to kill. In the Marines we were taught Line Training. No BS hand to hand tactics on how to take another human being's life. Now "MCMAP" aka the quickest way to get your ass kicked is all about restraint. It is the Napoleon Dynamite style of fighting.....'grab my arm, no my other arm, no with your other arm.' "Never given always earned" or whatever the faggoty BS everyone gets a trophy slogan is. For you Army types out there, don't laugh your "combatives" are just as much horsesh#t too.

We spend countless upon countless hours being taught how we're all equal and women just the same as men. Well, why don't they have the same PFT, CFT, and MCIRS standards? Why are women able to do less to get better scores to promote faster? Because they are not equal in military ability and they never will be.

We can't sing cadence about killing any specific group or type of people - even those we are at war with. Can't sing about sex, murder, burning villages, or even cuss because some faggoty-ass sissy, or chick might get offended. You can go to an early grave son, but don't you dare sing about dropping napalm on a village.

It's jacked up some chick with half the time in, had a lower standard to meet and out ranks you and is now in a "leadership position" when she hasn't had the time or experience necessary to be's for the greater good of equality.

I don't say any of this out of opinion or conjecture or what I've been taught....I say that as having spent 14 years of my life doing this and damn near a decade either on, or training for the two shooting range.

I have been in some of the largest and most intense battles the U.S. has ever fought in urban warfare straight - up killing people. More than 30 young men I've served with in 3 different infantry battalions haven't made it home, and countless more wounded; myself included - in ONE DAY of fighting more than half my platoon was wounded in combat.

I thank the Good Lord above we didn't have women in our platoon. And if they were there.....I'd find every way possible to leave them back. You can charge me burn me, take my chevrons, GFY.

I don't care if you are a woman in the military; were in the military; your neighbor, sister's neighbor's cousins, niece is in the military and so you feel a need to somehow justify it....but flat out THERE IS NO PLACE FOR WOMEN IN COMBAT.

33 posted on 11/27/2012 2:16:42 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: Repeat Offender
training for the two shooting range. = two way shooting range.

Note to self: proof when p'od.

36 posted on 11/27/2012 2:26:59 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: Repeat Offender

Good Lord.

Best. Post. Ever. On. This. Subject.


47 posted on 11/27/2012 3:03:51 PM PST by Hulka
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To: Repeat Offender

We had a woman in arctic training with our unit and she was a massive failure.

This is stupid to think that women can do the same job, carry the same weight over the same distance and then fight.

Women today do not do the same test to get in a unit and yet think they should then serve the same as a guy., no frigging way.

57 posted on 11/27/2012 3:28:57 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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