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1 posted on 11/27/2012 7:17:37 PM PST by tobyhill
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Paying more taxes to government is like giving heroin to a heroin addict.


2 posted on 11/27/2012 7:21:24 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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“If it doesn’t, the United States risks defaulting on its payments to creditors.”

Any countries that lend money to the USA when it is bankrupt with almost $90 trillion in unfunded mandates, which is 550% of its GDP, deserve to lose its money. The USA is like the welfare class who bought houses when they had no money, and it will collapse just as the housing fiasco collapsed.


3 posted on 11/27/2012 7:22:21 PM PST by txrefugee
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To: tobyhill

The sky is the limit.


4 posted on 11/27/2012 7:25:56 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: tobyhill

If the debt ceiling is not raised, the US will not have to default. The US will have to have a balanced budget.


5 posted on 11/27/2012 7:28:52 PM PST by JLS
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“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure.” - Barack Hussein Obama 2006


7 posted on 11/27/2012 7:29:44 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: tobyhill

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgMEPk6fvpg


10 posted on 11/27/2012 7:42:14 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: tobyhill

Stop the clock. Reverse the clock.

http://www.usdebtclock.org

Socialism Is Legal Plunder - Bastiat

Pay, pensions and perks of all legislators past and present rescinded until the debt is paid off and a surplus clock starts ticking.

—That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Alter it.


11 posted on 11/27/2012 7:43:28 PM PST by PGalt
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To: tobyhill
Why on earth is the assumption always that the first thing we would not pay is our interest payments?

That's like me making less money, and deciding the first thing to go isn't cable or cell phone, it's my mortgage.
15 posted on 11/27/2012 8:27:58 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: tobyhill

LOL! Let me see if I understand this correctly. There is a date certain after which our creditors will be told we “can’t make the payment”? Really? Being as our “creditor” is The Fed who has been printing funny papers which have been bought by the US Treasury it seems about as serious as Dad trying to get back the advance on allowance he already knows I spent taking Becky Sue to the dance. What we should be telling our creditors is something more like “pound sand”. Those debts were run up by an illegitimate impostor claiming authority he did not have. The biggest “Identity Theft” of all.


18 posted on 11/27/2012 10:49:20 PM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: tobyhill

The proper thing for Congress to do is to ignore the fiscal cliff and then refuse to raise the debt ceiling. We can confront these problems now, or deal with much worse later.

Starve the Beast.


20 posted on 11/28/2012 3:18:19 AM PST by Haiku Guy (Maybe he should have said he was hiking the Appalachian Trail)
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To: tobyhill

Rumor has it that Turbo Tax cheat Timmy is already dipping into the federal retirement funds. Which would explain why the debt ceiling has not already hit the limit as it was expected to do some time ago.

The problem with that will be that they won’t have as much to work with when the official numbers do reach the ceiling.


25 posted on 11/28/2012 10:38:52 AM PST by Revel
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