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Argument over loud music led to teen's fatal shooting, cops say(Trayvon Martin redux?)
Orlando Sentinel ^ | 11-27

Posted on 11/27/2012 10:23:53 PM PST by Arthurio

A Brevard County man remained in jail late Tuesday, accused of shooting a teenager dead in an argument over loud music.

Michael David Dunn, 45, and his girlfriend were in Jacksonville Friday for Dunn's son's wedding when they stopped at a convenience store, Jacksonville sheriff's Lt. Rob Schoonover said.

Jordan Russell Davis, 17, and several other teenagers were sitting in a sport utility vehicle in the parking lot when Dunn pulled up next to them in a car and asked them to turn down their music, Schoonover said.

Jordan and Dunn exchanged words, and Dunn pulled a gun and shot eight or nine times, striking Jordan twice, Schoonover said. Jordan was sitting in the back seat. No one else was hurt.

Dunn's attorney Monday said her client acted responsibly and in self-defense. She did not elaborate.

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To: Musket

I can go out in my front yard and rev up an old Homelite SuperXL chainsaw and as long as the doors and windows are all closed you could sit inside and hardly be aware of it yet we occasionally have one of these DISRESPECTFUL ^&*(_ to come driving by a quarter mile away and I can feel the vibrations in my chair, it makes you wonder just what kind of noise it might be until you stop and think.
This kind of noise is part of a whole syndrome of wanting to attract attention by acting like a thug and wearing pants with the belt halfway to the knees is part of it also. Little do these clowns realize that real tough guys don’t need to act like an idiot to attract attention. They disgust me and some of them are actually palefaces trying to act like blacks. If they want to act like they are black why can’t they act like Alan West?


61 posted on 11/28/2012 10:18:05 AM PST by RipSawyer
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To: ansel12; Uncle Chip

“Gunning someone down at the quick stop and then fleeing the scene and spending the night in a motel, doesn’t help one to appear like a man with a clean case of self-defense.”

Apparently neither does staying around for the police (Zimmerman).


62 posted on 11/28/2012 10:18:47 AM PST by Hulka
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To: spetznaz

We’ll see what comes to light in the months ahead. A forensic team will comb the SUV for any evidence left unscrubbed and if he’s lucky, they’ll find something corroborating his claims. The smart thing to do would have been to call 911, but it’s clear that not everyone thinks straight after having been involved in a shooting.


63 posted on 11/28/2012 10:18:47 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: ansel12

Attempted robbery.


64 posted on 11/28/2012 10:20:47 AM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Hulka

What is your point in regards to this shooting, that the man was wise to flee the scene and the cameras that filmed it?


65 posted on 11/28/2012 10:27:07 AM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer's successful run in Nebraska)
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To: PowderMonkey

You left out the description of the attempted robbery, how did it go, how did you get away, what weapons did they display, did they chase you?


66 posted on 11/28/2012 10:29:45 AM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer's successful run in Nebraska)
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To: ansel12; Uncle Chip

Your post said fleeing hurt his case.

Zimmerman stayed and it didn’t matter—presumed guilty by you.

Stay and be damned by you.

Flee and be damned by you.

Can’t win with you.

End of discussion.

Bye.


67 posted on 11/28/2012 10:31:17 AM PST by Hulka
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To: Bratch
Gotta feed the narrative.

And the hoodie is a nice touch.

They couldn't find a picture of him without it??

Has Benjamin Crump held his news conference yet???

68 posted on 11/28/2012 10:35:53 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Hulka

Yeah, you are really on top of things.

To: Arthurio
Not everything is a “Trayvon Martin”, where the guy is leaped on and is on the ground fighting for his life, and is already bloody and battered as he desperately squeezes off a shot that saves his life.

It isn’t fair to Zimmerman and to extreme self-defense cases, to keep using this “Trayvon” thing so casually and as a catch phrase.
4 posted on Tue Nov 27 2012 22:33:00 GMT-0800 (Pacific Standard Time) by ansel12


69 posted on 11/28/2012 10:40:50 AM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer's successful run in Nebraska)
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To: PapaBear3625
Lemonidis has said the teens drove off after Dunn fired at them, and he fired four shots as they left to “make sure they did not fire the shotgun.” She said the teens apparently got rid of the weapon before returning to the Gate station on Southside Boulevard.

He's going to have a problem.

70 posted on 11/28/2012 10:45:30 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: spetznaz; All

Here is some of Dunn’s side of the story coming out. Notice there are direct contradictions in the accounts.

This is becoming a he said/she said case. We will see who becomes more credible. Of course the black youths have a leg up because the black youths reported the shooting before he did.

It was a major mistake to not report it, but consider what the media has set up in the Trayvon Martin case. Zimmerman cooperated with the police from the start, yet he has been demonized. Dunn never knew if anyone had been hurt, until later, while Jordan’s friends had to come up with an explanation for his death. How long was it after the shooting that they reported the incident?

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2012-11-28/story/man-accused-killing-jacksonville-teen-charged-second-degree-murder


71 posted on 11/28/2012 10:56:23 AM PST by marktwain
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To: Hulka
Apparently neither does staying around for the police (Zimmerman).

Actually that worked in Zimmerman's favor as it gained him favor from law enforcement. Furthermore they were able to gather all the forensic evidence to validate his story which would not have been possible if he had fled.

This guy has none of that in his favor.

72 posted on 11/28/2012 10:56:38 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: marktwain
Here is a link to a Gannet story where Dunn’s girlfreind says that the SUV was gone from the convenience store when she came back outside.

So he has no corroborating witness.

73 posted on 11/28/2012 11:07:55 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Shooting bullets into the city and neighborhoods at fleeing bad guys is one of my pet peeves, whether they are cops are non-cops.

There better be a darn good reason for shooting bullets into the rest of the people’s lives in the area.


74 posted on 11/28/2012 11:09:57 AM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer's successful run in Nebraska)
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To: marktwain
“We are focused on Michael Dunn and protecting him and making sure that what has become a tragic situation does not become a media circus like another Florida case has, because this is totally different,” said Lemonidis, joined by Jacksonville attorney Mitch Stone as co-counsel. “... He was not a vigilante of any sort. He simply responded as he felt was necessary when he was threatened.”

Hey, Lemonidis, Zimmerman was not a vigilante and he did not flee the scene and he only fired his weapon once.

In the days to come you and Dunn will wish the facts fit the Zimmerman case.

75 posted on 11/28/2012 11:13:53 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip; All
So he has no corroborating witness.

The story is still developing. There may be video, there may be other witnesses. She collaborates that the losing parties in the encounter fled the scene as well (as you might expect).

We do not know much about both parties yet. Statistically, the scenario described by Dunn is much more common than the scenario that the friends of Jordan describe.

76 posted on 11/28/2012 11:15:00 AM PST by marktwain
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To: ansel12; All
Dunn had a lot to consider. There was no body or vehicle to even show that there was a shooting. If he involves the police, he is likely to miss his son's wedding.

Get real. This isn't a cheesy 1970s made for TV movie.

Most defensive uses of firearms are not reported to police, even most cases where shots are fired, which happen in about 5 percent of the cases.

77 posted on 11/28/2012 11:18:43 AM PST by marktwain
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To: wideawake; All
Further reports state that the police found no weapon in the car or near the scene, and that all the passengers in the SUV remained on the scene to make reports.

Where do you see this? I do not. It seems clear that the SUV left the scene, then came back to another area later. Did the driver of the SUV take Jordan to a hospital? This would seem to be the obvious thing to do.

78 posted on 11/28/2012 11:21:45 AM PST by marktwain
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To: Arthurio

Loud thumping noise that can heard three blocks away is a deliberate anti-social provocation. The culprits most often are black. Sometimes a car pulls along side mine at a light and is so loud that MY car rocks and vibrates. I certainly understand why it drove the shooter nuts. My house is constantly rattled by thugs driving down the boulevard behind my house; I resent the hell out of it. The law does nothing to stop it. A few more nationally publicized shootings might drive home a point to some of those cretins.


79 posted on 11/28/2012 11:22:48 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Musket

“I’ve been waiting for this to happen. This is not merely loud music, This is WAY beyond that. It’s extreme low frequency vibration that carries for blocks. “

That’s the truth. A lot of these kids are gonna be stone deaf before they get much older. Good thing they’ll have Obamacare. /s


80 posted on 11/28/2012 11:23:13 AM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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