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‘Green rush’ cropping up Pot industry expected to boom in Bay State
BostonHerald.com ^ | November 28, 2012 | Christine McConville And Erin Smith

Posted on 11/28/2012 6:12:22 AM PST by BlatherNaut

Expect a pot boom — like the gold rushes of old — as not just dispensers, but pastry chefs, lawyers and even vending machine salesmen all lunge for their piece of the multimillion-dollar medical marijuana business that is about to explode on the scene in Massachusetts, experts said.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: business; cannabis; drugs; drugwar; ma; marijuana; news; warondrugs; wod; wodlist; wosd

1 posted on 11/28/2012 6:12:33 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut
Great...So even more losers are going to congregate to this state.

What is the difference between a drunk and a stoner at a stop sign? The drunk guy runs it and the stoner waits for it to turn green!

And remember kids, don't eat marijauna, or you'll get a 'pot belly.'

Laugh or cry.

2 posted on 11/28/2012 6:20:04 AM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: BlatherNaut

Now watch. As more people turn into stoners they will become even less productive and demand even more handouts for their sloth.

We are so doomed.


3 posted on 11/28/2012 6:20:41 AM PST by Obadiah (What if the light at the end of the tunnel is a muzzle flash?)
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To: BlatherNaut

YAY CAPITALISM!


4 posted on 11/28/2012 6:29:15 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: BlatherNaut

how many stimulas grants will be given to prop up green pot growing industry?


5 posted on 11/28/2012 6:31:51 AM PST by dalebert
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To: Obadiah

You have just nailed my #1 reason to oppose pot legalization.
It causes people to drop-out of being productive members of the economy.

I was a member of the Cheech and Chong generation (though truly, I didn’t inhale, thanks to massive amounts of fear instilled in me by my parents. But I was in a small minority).

Most of those guys today in middle age, if they are employed at all, are hanging on at the edges as dishwashers, cab drivers and the like. They spent their most productive years in their 20’s sitting around and getting high rather than pursuing education and establishing careers.

Does not matter what I think though. Full legalization is bound to happen, because the Under 30 crowd appears to be all for it.


6 posted on 11/28/2012 6:32:48 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
Great...So even more losers are going to congregate to this state.

Actually, our population has decreased, causing us to lose one of the idiots we send to the House of Representatives.

7 posted on 11/28/2012 6:33:06 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: BlatherNaut

I smoked pot as a teen in the late 60’s- early 70’s. Being dumb and stupid is sooo yesterday. Can’t imagine smoking dope these days. The Spirit would highly convict me anyway. Have Zero desire anyway. No smoke in the lungs for me no mo


8 posted on 11/28/2012 6:40:59 AM PST by tflabo
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To: Buckeye McFrog
You have just nailed my #1 reason to oppose pot legalization. It causes people to drop-out of being productive members of the economy.

Most of those guys today in middle age, if they are employed at all, are hanging on at the edges as dishwashers, cab drivers and the like. They spent their most productive years in their 20’s sitting around and getting high rather than pursuing education and establishing careers.

I love how everyone takes personal, anecdotal evidence, then mixes in a dab or two of pre-conceived notions, puts it in the oven for 30 seconds, and bakes a grand, sweeping, iron-clad conclusion cake.

9 posted on 11/28/2012 6:41:12 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

Hey, what do you expect me to believe? My own eyes watching this stuff progress with people I actually know over 3 or 4 decades, or some academic theories being cut/pasted onto a web forum?


10 posted on 11/28/2012 6:53:25 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog
My own eyes watching this stuff progress with people I actually know over 3 or 4 decades, or some academic theories being cut/pasted onto a web forum?

To make such a generalization from your experiences, I can only infer that you must've hung around with or known some real losers over the past three or four decades. Because what I've seen with my eyes over three decades, closing in on four, is not the same as yours.

So who's right and who's wrong?

11 posted on 11/28/2012 7:01:45 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: BlatherNaut
I was a sci-fi fan in my youth; read a story in the Blade-runner mold where the gov't was so strapped for funds they legalized vice for the tax revenue.

We're not far from seeing the story come true, IMHO

12 posted on 11/28/2012 7:03:49 AM PST by ZOOKER ( Exploring the fine line between cynicism and outright depression)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

Since booze is legal, pot legalization can’t be far off.


13 posted on 11/28/2012 7:43:26 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Hemingway's Ghost; Buckeye McFrog
So who's right and who's wrong?

FWIW I agree with Buckeye McFrog. I have seen many careers in the military (70's-80's) and civilian world "self terminated" by pot use.

14 posted on 11/28/2012 7:55:03 AM PST by pfflier
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To: pfflier
I have seen many careers in the military (70's-80's) and civilian world "self terminated" by pot use.

So, by that logic, we could conclude that any activity, behavior, characteristic, noun, adjective, or verb with the potential to diminish, in a practical sense, a person's ability to engage in a career of some sort, should be made criminal, no?

15 posted on 11/28/2012 8:26:01 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: BlatherNaut

is pot legal in MA now??


16 posted on 11/28/2012 8:37:26 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
My own eyes watching this stuff progress with people I actually know over 3 or 4 decades,

I knew people who could pull straight 'A's in college stoned in difficult subjects. Me, if I smoked, I couldn't figure out which end of the book to open. As a result, I haven't smoke that stuff in ages.

As adults, I knew people who smoked every evening and got up and did productive and professional jobs in the days. And I knew stoners who were burn-outs.

Likewise, some people can drink moderately their entire lives. Whereas in my family, alcohol is the usual shipwreck on both sides of the family.

It's really up to the individual to figure out their own life, and for society to set limits as to when someone is out of control and causing harm. But top-down bans usually end up causing their own host of problems, witness Prohibition. There are no good answers, only bad and worse. But prohibitions also create very bad problems with black markets, while doing little to dimish availability of the prohibited substances, only raising the prices to the benefit of organized crime.

17 posted on 11/28/2012 8:44:10 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Buckeye McFrog

That must be why this debate keeps going on. We’re all different and we know or knew different people.

...so it comes down to whichever group has more votes where you live. At least freepers agree that the fed govt should not be involved.


18 posted on 11/28/2012 8:56:09 AM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: sten
http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Massachusetts_Medical_Marijuana_Initiative,_Question_3_(2012)
19 posted on 11/28/2012 8:57:50 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: ZOOKER

Who got to define the vices?


20 posted on 11/28/2012 8:58:25 AM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: BlatherNaut

I don’t see anything wrong with it. When I retire, I would like to sit in my backyard, listen to Hank Williams, and toke a little weed from time to time.


21 posted on 11/28/2012 9:00:30 AM PST by olepap (God help us)
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To: pfflier

Was that because of the pot, or the fact that it’s illegal? I was in the Army and Navy before there were drug tests, it changed just before I got out. I never saw a difference in how our ships performed. I would say that probably 50% of the E-5s and below used pot/hashish and if you looked at the difference between the senior enlisteds and lower ranks in a liberty line at 0200, the ones on their hands and knees puking, getting in fights and falling asleep, were the ones that were drunk, while those that got high, were laughing and eating.


22 posted on 11/28/2012 9:07:53 AM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

You forgot to mention that the drunk killed a family of four while running that stop sign.

Over the years I have lost friends and family members to alcohol, whether by overdose, misuse, or drunk driving. Do you know how many friends I have lost to cannabis? ZERO. A majority of my friends that smoke “dope” are successful, happy, and productive. My alcoholic friends, the ones that are still alive, are either in jail, on their way, or destructive miserable wretches. So who are the real losers here? Those who ignore alcohol and support the ban on cannabis or those who want freedom to make decisions for themselves and freedom to live with the consequences?

I hate alcohol and I dont use it (despite my screen name) yet the difference is I would never take away someone’s freedom to use or abuse it. Nobody is forcing you to like it yet you are willing to support imprisonment in a lame effort to combat private use of a plant.

I believe in choice and consequences. It is not my business what you do or whether you destroy your own life on drugs and alcohol. While you focus on cannabis with drug war language and propaganda, the real issue of addiction and its devastating effects are ignored. Since many of you are so concerned about public health that you are willing to ban a substance, how about we start with junk food? More people are addicted to food and its negative effects on our society are far greater, yet I dont hear a call from the drug war proponents to ban soda and junk food. You seem to be fine letting people kill themselves with twinkies, soda, and booze so what is the difference?

If you care so much about public health, ignoring booze and junkfood is complete intellectual dishonesty. Moral righteousness is not won through lies nor can it be forced by the barrel of a gun or threats of imprisonment. At the end of the day, addiction is the real issue and thanks to the war on drugs, it has been almost completely ignored. At the end of the day the truth still stands.


23 posted on 11/28/2012 9:22:04 AM PST by drunknsage
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

The specific issue is pot usage not your abstract.


24 posted on 11/28/2012 9:34:46 AM PST by pfflier
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To: pfflier
The specific issue is pot usage not your abstract.

Yes, but the logic you used to arrive at your conclusion should hold firm, whether you apply it to pot, Dunkin' Donuts coffee, asparagus, running shoes, or toothpaste.

You determined X should be illegal because of Y, and made a definitive statement to that affect, did you not?

25 posted on 11/28/2012 9:42:17 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
You have just nailed my #1 reason to oppose pot legalization.
It causes people to drop-out of being productive members of the economy.

So the government owns each individual's potential for production, and may ban whatever decreases that potential? Should government set adults' bedtimes so they're more productive?

26 posted on 11/28/2012 9:42:17 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("mouth piece from the pit of hell" (Bellflower, 11/10/2012))
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To: stuartcr
I concede that people are affected differently. If I worked with dopers and I didn't know it, then they must have been able to cope. I can assure you not all coped well at all and were easy to spot.

When the USAF did random testing, we would have side bets in our squadron. I was better than 60% on my guesses. The IDGAS attitude and personal appearance violations were the first manifestations.

Our worst problems were also E-5 and below. At that E-5 point, most had to grow up because of the responsibility and career path.

Agree on the alcohol users. They were pretty sloppy.

27 posted on 11/28/2012 9:53:43 AM PST by pfflier
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Let me restate it again, The specific issue is pot usage.

The logic I used was specifically and exclusively with respect to that, nothing else.

28 posted on 11/28/2012 10:09:38 AM PST by pfflier
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To: pfflier
The logic I used was specifically and exclusively with respect to that, nothing else.

So the only thing in the whole wide world of sports whose legal status should be considered in terms of how it affects a person's ability to perform up to a certain economic and or productivity standard is marijuana?

29 posted on 11/28/2012 10:25:34 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: BlatherNaut

awesome /sarc

expect grades to decrease, crime to increase, and unemployment to increase.

it’s not rocket science. it’s dominoes


30 posted on 11/28/2012 10:41:38 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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