Posted on 11/28/2012 12:20:34 PM PST by GlockThe Vote
"You know it's going to be boring, but you just don't appreciate how boring it actually is," one first-year associate at a large New York law firm tells us.
The young lawyer describes long days of reading dense papers, which he only barely understands, and which seem to have no bearing on any actual case.
"Doc review is the most boring experience of your life, but strangely nerve-wracking because you know you're messing it up, but you just can't bring yourself to care that you're messing it up. And you're probably going to mess it up even if you did care, so [screw] it, why even bother," he says.
This is why Biglaw is often described as "soul crushing" and why even as many lawyers struggle to get jobs one recent grad is complaining about the one he has.
(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...
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“...So I get there; from roughly 9:30 to 10:15 I check my email, read the Internet; then I do whatever meaningless task I’ve been assigned for the day. And I haven’t actually even had that much work, so it’s not that I can complain that I’m working too hard, because I’m really not.”
That sounds very Office Space-ish.
It also sounds like a very inefficient business model. What’s the point of hiring young talent if you’re not going to keep them busy? I get that they do the grunt work, but if there’s not enough grunt work to keep everyone busy, shouldn’t they lay a few people off?
"Doc review is the most boring experience of your life, but strangely nerve-wracking because you know you're messing it up, but you just can't bring yourself to care that you're messing it up. And you're probably going to mess it up even if you did care, so [screw] it, why even bother," he says.
Poor slob. He ought to take a crack at reading the 13,000 plus pages related to Obama Care. Then lets talk. I wonder if Pelosi has ever read it? As we know, she said we have to pass the thing so we'll know what's in it.
I truly doubt anyone has ever read this crap.
Agreed - I work solo and am the AP / AR / Sales ? Marketing / HR etc and the lawyer to boot!
I like what I do since i deal w the clients and cases beginning to end on my own terms.
These big law firms are big rackets. They rip off clients like crazy - overpay and overbill associates, etc.
Boring...he should stand a mid-watch on the back end of a carrier in the north sea.
My husband’s cousin is a lawyer. Says that 75% of the job is reading. I read once that lawyers have the highest amount of quitters in the business field. There’s more former lawyers around than any other professional occupation. Not sure if it’s true, but my husband and I used to eat at an upscale restaurant, and our favorite server was a former lawyer. He told us he was never happier. He HATED law, and for that reason, too much reading. Doesn’t anyone tell these people at the jump?
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Why can’t he just hang a shingle and start his own?.............
Welcome to entry level jobs. It’s the sucky end of the stick where you prove you’re worthy to do interesting stuff.
I’m also a solo practioner; have my office on the Courthouse square in a suburban county. I thank God that He didn’t curse me with too many brains as I would likely have had the Big Firm draw me in with the lure of the large salary. And in so doing I would have sold my soul. Instead, I deal with real clients and not stacks of dry paper. For the associates at these firms, the Courtroom is a rumored place far far away. I’m in the Courtroom almost every day, and it is there that I feel more alive than anywhere else. More importantly, I am not a slave to a billable hours sheet in an office an hour’s commute away. I am free to spend time with my wife (who is an absolute saint), and I coached my sons’ sports teams. I am active in my church and in my community. Most importantly, I can post on Free Republic.
Big Law Firms are nothing but a pyramid scheme, started back in the 1960’s in California and spread later to the rest of the country. The partners in the Big Firms realized that the key to wealth was not billing more hours themselves, but instead hiring scores of young lawyers as cannon fodder out of the law schools, and then profiting off their billing hours. In order to make the scheme work, they needed the law schools to open the gates and flood the market with an annual oversupply of new lawyers. The law schools were all to keen to participate, as it allowed them to grow, too.
Thus, the Big Firm brings in a score of new lawyers each year, and sweats them to death. Many of them are then discarded five years later after they’ve been burned out, often having mental problems, divorce, and substance abuse issues. Their dead husks are replaced by the fresh young lawyers just out of law school. The really unlucky ones become “junior partners” where the cost of “buying in” to the partnership causes them to work even more hours, and for the 10 years they buy in they actually take home less money. They are tortured longer.
Like I said, it’s a pyramid scheme. I have been truly blessed by God that His plan for me was not to fall into that pit.
Well Glock(like the name have 2 myself) it works like this. He only is billable only 10 hours a week, give him a promotion and charge 4 times as much.
reminds me of the lawyer trying to prove up his fees before the judge and he asked for $300 an hour. The judge said he was too young to rate that fee..the lawyer’s associate responded but he has billed for hours far in excess of his age...
Oh they’re told, but nobody ever thinks they’re going to wind up the stable boy, they always think they’re going to be the general. And if they do well eventually they do get to be the general, but you always start in the stables. Entry level in any field is the manure work. That’s what young people don’t get, when the guy explaining the reality of their field says “for every guy doing this awesome stuff that’s why you chose this field there’s a hundred doing stuff that makes your classwork seem fun” what they hear is “you’ll have a hundred guys doing all the scutwork while you get to do all the awesome stuff”. Young people are filled with dreams and even when you tell them the reality they don’t listen because they’re dreaming.
If somebody wrote it, then somebody read it.
You can bet when the time comes. (which means it is too late to stop it) we will find out a lot of things that are in it.
Right now some liberal jerk is sitting on something he cannot wait to spring on us.
What this man is comlaining about is that lawyers write things so that lay people cannot read it and many times lawyers cannot decipher it either.
The schools bs the students and set unrealistic expectations.
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