Skip to comments.Few female Marines step forward for infantry
Posted on 11/28/2012 1:45:12 PM PST by QT3.14
Female Marine officers are unlikely to join the infantry anytime soon, in part because of a lack of volunteers for the Marine Corps' Infantry Officer Course, which was opened to women in September.
Only two of about 80 eligible female Marines have volunteered for the course -- a grueling, three-month advanced regimen conducted at Quantico, Va., that was opened to women to research their performance.
Of the two female volunteers, one washed out on the first day, along with 26 of the107 men, and the other dropped out two weeks later for medical reasons, a Marine Corps spokesman said.
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I met a lot of BAMs and worked with a few. I believe some of them could have hacked it.
But that was 40 years ago and things were different.
In 20 years, I never met one. I had one that tried, only to find out later that she was purging in order to keep up with the males. She couldn’t accept that her body was fundamentally different. She was medically discharged.
My orders are to weed out all non-hackers who do not pack the gear and serve in my beloved corp.
just make them sign up for the draft,too.
In related news:
Soldiers don fake belly, breasts to better understand pregnant troops’ exercise concerns
...The Army is ordering its hardened combat veterans to wear fake breasts and empathy bellies so they can better understand how pregnant soldiers feel during physical training.
This week, 14 noncommissioned officers at Camp Zama took turns wearing the pregnancy simulators as they stretched, twisted and exercised during a three-day class that teaches them to serve as fitness instructors for pregnant soldiers and new mothers. (snip)
I’ve never met one woman who could do the job, carry the weight or march and run with the weight which is needed.
We had one woman with us as a test in the Arctic and mountain warfare training in the Arctic and it was a disgrace to even think this woman who was supposed to have even the best could do the job.
All a woman has to do to get in the marines is 1 yes 1 pull up and 2 pulls ups to graduate which is a disgrace too.
They have more time for a run, less weight to carry .
It’s time to stop this nonsense about women thinking they can do the same job, they cannot , we are built differently also to be fair some men I;ve seen should not be in the military at all, ie.e Manning the homosexual who gave our secrets away is a prime example.
The military shuld not be used as a social agenda for the new party called the socialist party
...oh yeah, they are already in all those highly sought-after jobs.
Mature people ought to accept that there are no females in the NFL and no female Dogfaces in the Army and no primary Infantry MOS fem Marines. There are reasons.
tell me that is a joke please.
We had a woman with us who was on her period, because we were in the Arctic she had to carry her tampon wiht her and waiting for her to change in minus 50 with the wind chill is pure B/S
We’re arguing with these fools in their folly, or in this case, in their deceptiveness.
They don’t really want fems in the infantry,
they want to destroy the effectiveness of the infantry.
Just like they don’t really care if gays get married,
they want to destroy the concept of marriage.
“My orders are to weed out all non-hackers who do not pack the gear and serve in my beloved corp.”
Sounds like something obama would say!
agreed, I;ve already stated on this thread about how we had a woman with us as a test so I’ll let you read it if you want.
But have you seen the 4 women suing to get in the combat units?
They could never carry 130 pound over mountinas for 30 miles in 8 hours, hell half the men cannot and yet these idiots want to put front lines marines and soldiers in danger because of their arrogant selfish attitude.
I wrote a reort to the higher ups about this woman and told them how it did not work out but I bet my report was ripped up just like many who said openly serving homosexuals and cross dressers should not be let in the military.
It’s obvious that this admin does not care about lives , Libya was a prime example of that so lives being lost due to their social agenda is another bump in the road
As a caller to Hanity said yesterday, “Men are NOT supposed to know how it feels”. Pregnancy is a wonderful gift to women. It is part of the special spiritual bond they have with their children. Women are not victimized by pregnancy.
Politically, men need to toss political correctness and bring back logical thinking.
I’m sure there are one or two women out there that can do this. I’m sure a 300 pound man doesn’t want to be “rescued” by a 100 pound female firefighter from a 6 story building. Like she’ll be able to carry him out. Women need to realize they don’t have the physical ability men do.
Thank God for men!
Female leaders in combat:
...While most of us actually hear female voices more clearly, men’s brains hear women’s voices first as music. But it’s not music. It’s someone giving them a honey-do list. So the brain goes into overdrive trying to analyze what is being said.
Bottom line: Men have to work harder deciphering what women are saying because they use the auditory part of the brain that processes music, not human voices. Men’s brains are not designed to listen to women’s voices. It’s not the pitch of the woman’s voice, but rather the vibration and number of sound waves that cause the problem, notes Discovery News.
But guys have no trouble at all hearing each other because men use a much simpler brain mechanism at the back of the brain to decipher another man’s voice and recognize it as speech.
agreed, my wife has just said that todays modern man have become wimps and women like.
I think she is right so don’t hold your breath about some men to actually stand up against PC.
Probably a corpse man.
One of the 400+ commenters at the link:
The Israelis tried it years ago and dropped it fast. When the Arabs
captured one they would torture her into screaming and the Israeli
grunts went nuts and against orders tried to save them. Men, other
than moslem males that is, are hard wired that way. The ambushes set
up by the Arabs slaughtered them. That was the end of that piece of
liberal stupidity. NOW they want to try it here. God help us all
and God save the Corps.
Any waman stupid enough to want to be a Marine infantry officer is waaaay to stupid to be one.
We’ve gone insane!
From the report of the Presidential Commission on the Assignment of Women in the Armed Forces (report date November 15, 1992, published in book form by Brasseys in 1993):
The average female Army recruit is 4.8 inches shorter, 31.7 pounds lighter, has 37.4 fewer pounds of muscle, and 5.7 more pounds of fat than the average male recruit. She has only 55 percent of the upper-body strength and 72 percent of the lower-body strength...
...women are more than twice as likely to suffer leg injuries and nearly five times as likely to suffer [stress] fractures as men.”
Keep the standards of the Corps at the highest level. If any woman wants to try and can manage to keep up with the big boys, fine.
Firefighter have a rodeo each yera that is a physical test of the best.
Dragging hose ,chopping ,climbing,carrying, all of the thing Firefighters do.
They have a course for men and a course for women.
If women can do the job they should compete against the men.
They get paid the same.
Nah, nobody real.
I married a BAM 40 years ago and she would still kick your ass for using the term BAM. Then again, that was 40 years ago and she has mellowed quite a bit. Most of the WMs we knew could have never hacked the training much less extended combat.
Semper Fi from both of us.
Only two countries had mixed-gender combat units: (1) Israel in its War for Independence (1948-1949) and (2) Russia's Great Patriotic War (1941-1945). Neither of them employ females in frontline combat roles for good reasons that were written in blood,
1. The women and men suffered disproportionate casualties. The women tried to prove themselves and took more risks. The men tried to protect the women.
2. Women casualties had far greater effects on unit morale among the women and the men.
3. Fraternization was an on-going and serious problem that caused order discipline problems in these units.
Both Israel and Russia have women in their military branches today and the women are given combat training. However, they are not assigned to combat arms of infantry, armor, and artillery.
The Canadian Army has opened its infantry units to women. Only three women passed the selection process and none are presently serving with infantry units.
equal rights should mean equal rights but that also should mean that a woman should do exactly the same test as a man and they do not.
Like you said, this is insane.
Think of this.
right now this admin wants submarines to be changed to allow women on them when there is no room on a sub and if anyone has been on one then they would know.
Right now we have homosexuals openly serving and sharing showers with a gender which they are turned on to.
we have cross dressers who can get out of uniform at the end of the day and then dress as if they are the other sex.
Women are just built differently.
I’ve been chopping wood and splitting it , my wife does not do that and admits she cannot do it.
I know the elft have this version and idea of how we should have a world without borders,
A world where men and women are the same but the fact is we are not,.
The left live in a fantasy world and the problem witht hem is that they tell each other over the internet how smart they are, how stupid the right is and how their fantasy world is the right world but they ignore facts.
I’ts like a left wing pansy man saying he is a woman, er no you have something between your legs, you might not like it, it probably is small for a left wing weenie but it is still there
My Marine buddies favorite tagline:
A WM not on her back is a WM out of her MOS.
True, but so do the monkeys in the zoo.
Apparently, you haven't heard of the "War on Men"
Well, they stopped doing that generations ago and became combatants.
It's also true that people of either sex who are a little hard of hearing (like me) don't hear women's voices or comprehend their words very well. The first set of vocal frequencies to deteriorate in most people's auditory range, is the female vocal pattern. I can hear men, but not women on the phone. Young women in particular drive me nuts.
Includentally, the first vocal frequencies a baby can make out, are in the female vocal range. People seem to unconsciously realize this: note how people universally raise their pitch when talking to babies and small children.
Congratulations girls, you are not officially men.
Now get down there and sign up for the draft.
Well, I have.
I'm suggesting it's time to fight back by radicalizing the youth.
Who is paying you to infest this site?
HAH! I think we liked using the word BAM just to get them wimmin all stirred up. LMAO! I remember one night I was walking guard duty at mainside Lejeune and they had a fire drill at the BAM barracks. That was pretty interesting for a while.
Semper Fi to the two of you!
In the words of the most famous marine ever:
Does the military realize that GI Jane was a movie?
And it’s politicians pushing this stuff, not the enlisted women. I was in 20 years ago when this debate was starting and all of my shipmates and WMs said they weren’t interested in infantry-type jobs.
it’s bad enough guys have to die, and have to lose friends in war.
personally people are people, i don’t think it’s any worse or better to lose a good woman or a good guy. it’s equally bad.
that’s just it right there. the lawyers line up for the people with brasts who can’t pass the tests, where are they for the guys who wash out? wasn’t it ufair they couldn’t pass the test too? they failed so obviously just like the women, it’s the TEST’s fault.
Yep, I've said for years that if the feminists and the politically correct had been serious about real equality for women, that all women be required to register for the draft and be drafted 1 to 1 with men would have been among their top two or three demands.
Have never once heard one of the phony feminists suggest that.
right on. just about any time a woman i know talks to me it’s about doing something for her.
that, and if it comes in pink. “it” being anything.
they are protectors, not primary protectors, secondary protectors.