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One fiscal cliff fix: Raise the gas tax
CNN Money ^ | November 28, 2012 | Steve Hargreaves

Posted on 11/28/2012 2:17:01 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

As lawmakers race to negotiate a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff, some experts say one tax increase should be on the table: a gas tax hike.

Currently at 18.4 cents a gallon, the federal gas tax is used primarily to build and repair roads, bridges and other transportation infrastructure. The tax raises about $32 billion a year.

But that's not enough. The government hands out about $50 billion a year to states and towns to help with road costs. The difference comes out of general funds or has to be borrowed. Meanwhile, the gas tax hasn't been raised since 1993.

"Establishing a sustainable resource base for transportation needs to be part of any grand bargain," said Emil Frankel, a former transportation expert in the George W. Bush administration and now director of transportation policy at the Bipartisan Policy Center. "In the short run, raising the gas tax is the best way to do that."

Raising the gas tax was one of the recommendations of the Simpson-Bowles debt reduction plan in 2010. The plan called for a 15 cent-a-gallon hike to the gas tax, a level that would basically cover the current shortfall in the transportation budget...

(Excerpt) Read more at money.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: congress; gas; oil; taxes
It's never enough.
1 posted on 11/28/2012 2:17:03 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The fiscal cliff “crisis” is that taxes are set to go up. Raising another tax is not a “fix” to the other tax increases.


2 posted on 11/28/2012 2:19:34 PM PST by arista
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Maybe they should just stick to using the funds on roads and not green-ways, bicycle trails, endangered species passage tunnels, beautification projects, etc.
3 posted on 11/28/2012 2:21:25 PM PST by Truth29
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Another fiscal cliff fix: CUT SPENDING!!


4 posted on 11/28/2012 2:21:32 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Or....

Cut federal highway spending to $10 billion, reduce the gas tax by 60%, and let states decide if they want to raise their own gas tax.


5 posted on 11/28/2012 2:21:54 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We need to ban automatic transmissions. They allow too many people to drive.


6 posted on 11/28/2012 2:24:03 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Currently at 18.4 cents a gallon, the federal gas tax is used primarily to build and repair roads, bridges and other transportation infrastructure.

Typical lefty...a lie to start off with.

7 posted on 11/28/2012 2:25:21 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Let the Dems destroy the economy!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Experts ???

IEmil Frankel, a former transportation expert in the George W. Bush .... just another bureaucrat. He is not an expert.


8 posted on 11/28/2012 2:27:28 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Unfortunately, since the engine that drives economic recovery is making energy as cheap as possible to consume, this is a spectacularly stupid idea.


9 posted on 11/28/2012 2:28:37 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: DTogo

Are you insane? That’s not possible because we all know every single penny spent is done efficiently and sorely needed less we all starve to death! /s

It’s like coming home one night and telling your wife she needs to get another part time job because it’s getting harder to pay for the two Mercedes, BMW bike, speed boat and 8,000 square foot house payment.


10 posted on 11/28/2012 2:29:01 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Let the Dems destroy the economy!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If higher taxes on gas will increase the price, a significant portion of the population will drive less, or get cars with better gas mileage, and there will be little or no increase in tax revenue. But that’s not the point of such a tax. The point is to get us out of cars, and into trains, tied to the schedules, and visible to big brother’s eyes.


11 posted on 11/28/2012 2:30:12 PM PST by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“But that’s not enough.” No amount of money ever is. Waiting for the day when some politician says “We have enough money....”


12 posted on 11/28/2012 2:32:54 PM PST by Donkey Odious ( Adapt, improvise, and overcome - now a motto for us all.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“But that’s not enough.” No amount of money ever is. Waiting for the day when some politician says “We have enough money....”


13 posted on 11/28/2012 2:33:11 PM PST by Donkey Odious ( Adapt, improvise, and overcome - now a motto for us all.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I will be all alone here but I say go ahead.

People have spoken and they should get what they voted for. B0 came right out and said he wants higher energy prices.

Oh yeah — women, minorities and children hardest hit.


14 posted on 11/28/2012 2:34:59 PM PST by Zuse
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Regressive tax that hurts the poor and middle class. And depending on the size of the increase, it will cause the price of food, goods, and services to increase—costs that will be passed on to the consumer. A 15 cents increase would be a major blow to the economy.


15 posted on 11/28/2012 2:43:59 PM PST by kabar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

all they do in NC is repave roads that don’t need it, replacing traffic lights that still work, and clean ditches that don’t need to be cleaned...by the way...they only actually work about 50% of the normal work day of a private contractor...goofing off to the job, goofing off going to break then lunch and goofing off quitting early to get back to the shed...worthless...yea really a good use of funds!!!


16 posted on 11/28/2012 2:50:02 PM PST by ldish (Give me Freedom and Liberty or let's kick some a**!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I like raising the gas tax for 2 reasons:

1) Some of the money will be used for highways.

2) It is regressive, as the article states. It’s ABOUT TIME that the poor started to pay some taxes too.


17 posted on 11/28/2012 3:01:31 PM PST by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: BobL

A lot of the gas tax is used to subsidize mass transit/bike paths etc rather than used on highway repairs and upgrades. Subsidizing inefficient and costly transit systems that handle less than 1% of all trips per day and are heavily unionized has zero appeal to me and other taxpayers.


18 posted on 11/28/2012 3:13:51 PM PST by sitkaspruce
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

lies upon lies upon lies upon lies upon etc...


19 posted on 11/28/2012 3:16:41 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Truth29

Tunnels do save lives in that bears and elk regularly cross
I-90 here in WA and are struck by cars often with fatal results (for the people inviolved). Anything else they do with the money should be spend to widen the damn freeways, not build trains to nowhere or nature paths or other such ..


20 posted on 11/28/2012 3:24:38 PM PST by RitchieAprile (the obsteperous gentleman..)
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To: Donkey Odious; 2ndDivisionVet
Waiting for the day when some politician says “We have enough money....”

ROTFLMAO! Yeah, right. Don't hold your breath...

21 posted on 11/28/2012 3:27:04 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They do that and I’m going to reload every empty casing I have, fill up and head to D.C.


22 posted on 11/28/2012 3:35:56 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So is the twit proposing this an urbanite who is clueless about the distances in this country and the need of rural folks to drive, or a vengeful ‘Rat who wants to stick it to the Red states that backed Romney? (The two alternatives are not mutually exclusive.)


23 posted on 11/28/2012 3:37:00 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: Fledermaus
“Currently at 18.4 cents a gallon, the federal gas tax is used primarily to build and repair roads, bridges and other transportation infrastructure.
Typical lefty...a lie to start off with”

Exactly, The Feds waste about 40 percent of the federal road users taxes on bureaucracy, BS studies, bicycle paths, choo-choo trains, urban bus lines and miscellaneous crap! One of my complaints with the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE), et al is that their national leadership are Obama whores and economic illiterates. I know because I am a member!

24 posted on 11/28/2012 3:37:11 PM PST by texican01
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
why did zero send one billion dollars to Uganda ?

25 posted on 11/28/2012 3:56:11 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: DTogo

It WILL cut spending!

I LOVE this idea! This taxes the average citizen—so many Obozo voters—and it hits them harder with costs of goods going up with trucking!
THEN, maybe ...there will be pressure on the Senate and Administration to Stop Spending. Now, its just working people who have skin in the game and of course we have all the uneducated that thinks the money just comes “from the govt”. Wait till it comes from them!


26 posted on 11/28/2012 4:49:29 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: BobL

see my post #26.


27 posted on 11/28/2012 4:52:45 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

this will placate the libtards as only rich people drive cars.


28 posted on 11/28/2012 5:48:42 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Yep, we’re on the same page. Maybe it’s time that the Obama voters start paying for all the services that they DEMAND.


29 posted on 11/28/2012 5:57:16 PM PST by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

“so many Obozo voters—and it hits them harder with costs of goods going up with trucking!
THEN, maybe ...there will be pressure on the Senate and Administration to Stop Spending.”

I doubt it. The typical moron O voter in this country will just blame the “evil business” for not absorbing the cost increase and instead passing it along in the price. They they will start screaming for price caps, “anti-gouging laws!”

As they experience shortages, they will still be blaming the evil businesses (bourgois) for not giving them free stuff! As they starve to death, they would sing praise to Obama and his ilk with their last breath.


30 posted on 11/30/2012 9:34:15 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: CSM

Sadly, you are no doubt correct.


31 posted on 11/30/2012 5:10:31 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie
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