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Petition To Congress Urging Electors To NOT Cast Their Vote
Petition2Congress ^

Posted on 11/28/2012 9:07:48 PM PST by mom of young patriots

"...We are calling on you, our Senators, to request our electors not cast their vote! Then the House of Representatives CAN choose the next President (and Republicans still have the majority - 233 (R) to 195 (D) - in the House of Representatives)!!!..."

(Excerpt) Read more at petition2congress.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fantasy

1 posted on 11/28/2012 9:07:57 PM PST by mom of young patriots
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To: mom of young patriots

If I am recalling correctly how the electoral college works, each state has two groups of electors, one from each party. Only the group of the winning party in that state (eg Republicans in Indiana) convene to cast their vote. Obama only needs 270, and he has 333, as the Republican electors from the states Obama won do not convene to cast votes. So, we’d need to convince 63 ‘rat electors NOT to vote for Obama...I’m sorry but I don’t see that happening.


2 posted on 11/28/2012 9:15:11 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Make that 63 rat electors.


3 posted on 11/28/2012 9:15:57 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: mom of young patriots

” - - - According to Article II of the U.S. Constitution AND the 12th Amendment - if 1/3rd of the States do not cast their votes in the Electoral College, then the matter falls onto the House of Representatives to choose the President. - - - “

Thanks. I had forgotten that fact!


4 posted on 11/28/2012 9:16:38 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: mom of young patriots

There is a greater chance of you winning the Powerball by not buying a ticket than an online poll doing something like this.


5 posted on 11/28/2012 9:17:54 PM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring

I though the electors were bound by the election in November?


6 posted on 11/28/2012 9:31:34 PM PST by healy61
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To: Graewoulf

I don’t know if it is even possible, but it is being proposed on the petition site, so I thought I would refer it here for comment.

The petition for recount on the same site is up to almost 115,000 and adding more each hour. That is just the people who are willing to put their information out there. http://www.petition2congress.com/8222/petition-recount-on-2012-presidential-election/

There is also another one calling for a new election that isn’t getting much traction. http://www.petition2congress.com/8269/urgent-new-presidential-congressional-election/


7 posted on 11/28/2012 9:32:01 PM PST by mom of young patriots
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

You are correct. Also, there’s no reason to believe any of them would listen to senators, who have absolutely no say in what happens with the electoral college, OR with the choosing of the President.

You’d have to either appeal directly to the electors, or to the state legislatures and governors. Not that this would help either, just that talking to democratic senators to ask them to tell democratic electors to not vote for Obama so the republicans can pick their own candidate is silly.


8 posted on 11/28/2012 9:32:42 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: mom of young patriots

Keep it up!

I’d love to see Benghazi-Coward Obama Impeached!


9 posted on 11/28/2012 9:36:41 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Graewoulf; mom of young patriots
if 1/3rd of the States do not cast their votes in the Electoral College, then the matter falls onto the House of Representatives to choose the President.

Can they pick Sarah Palin?

10 posted on 11/28/2012 9:39:00 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: healy61
I though the electors were bound by the election in November?

Not all the states went to Obama. Seen the electoral map?

11 posted on 11/28/2012 9:45:35 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: Graewoulf
” - - - According to Article II of the U.S. Constitution AND the 12th Amendment - if 1/3rd of the States do not cast their votes in the Electoral College, then the matter falls onto the House of Representatives to choose the President. - - - “

This is ABSOLUTELY BOGUS - and is AT LEAST the third thread about this since the election ...

Its NOT about 1/3 of the STATES not voting - its about ENOUGH ELECTORAL VOTERS NOT VOTING for their pledged candidates [Obama and Biden], in order for it to go to the House [for PREZ] or the Senate [for VEEP].

Since Obama [and Biden] have 330 electoral votes locked up - AT LEAST 61 of THEIR voters would have to REFUSE to vote in order for NEITHER political ticket to get a majority.

THIS IS THE ONLY WAY IT GOES TO THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE ...

Don't believe me? READ Article II, Section I AND the 12th Amendment of the Constitution ...

12 posted on 11/28/2012 10:07:32 PM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: mom of young patriots; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA; Wyrd bið ful aræd;

Um it doesn’t matter if the GOP electors don’t vote. The rat electors would laugh at this.

Some states like FL allow the popular election to be overturned by the state legislature and new electors slated but that’s not gonna happen.


13 posted on 11/28/2012 10:21:50 PM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: mom of young patriots

In the words of Aerosmith... “Dream On”


14 posted on 11/28/2012 10:29:10 PM PST by PrivateIdaho ( "Courage is being scared to death... but saddling up anyway." (John Wayne))
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To: mom of young patriots; All

As a side note to the electoral college, please bear in mind that the only reason that voters are concerned about who is in the Oval Office is because of all the 10th Amendment state powers which corrupt Congresses and corrupt presidents have been wrongly usurping from the states at least since the days of Constitution-ignoring FDR. In other words, Constitution-impaired voters are clueless as to the constitutionally limited powers of Congress and the Oval Office.

In fact, if Congress and the Oval Office actually respected Congress’s Article I, Section 8-limited powers, regulating mainly the postal service (1.8.7), treaties and international and intrastate trade as the Founding States had intended, then voters would probably have to guess who the current president is, citizens relying instead on their states for the social spending programs that they are now foolisly relying on the federal government for.


15 posted on 11/28/2012 10:36:21 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: Lmo56

I would rather see the state electors vote, as did our esteemed former Senator from Illinois had voted :
stating only that they are “ PRESENT “ !


16 posted on 11/28/2012 10:39:02 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt ("You can kill a free man,.. you can't enslave him." -Robert Anson Heinlein)
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To: Impy; mom of young patriots; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA; ...
RE :”Um it doesn’t matter if the GOP electors don’t vote. The rat electors would laugh at this.
Some states like FL allow the popular election to be overturned by the state legislature and new electors slated but that’s not gonna happen”

Some Dems in congress tried this sore loser stuff in January 2004 (Barbara Boxer was one) and they just humiliated themselves.

Better idea, get more Americans to come out and vote against the Dem in swing states,. Heck, it worked for Obama twice.

17 posted on 11/28/2012 10:43:12 PM PST by sickoflibs (Has Bohner caved to Obama again yet?)
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To: sickoflibs

Yes, but our side only gets to vote once (if we’re lucky...). We don’t have rotten borough precincts manufacturing thousands of phony votes in urban areas.


18 posted on 11/28/2012 10:46:55 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: mom of young patriots
This is completely wrong. The 12th Amendment states:
The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;--The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice.
There is no quorum needed for the votes of the Electoral College. A simple majority of Electors appointed choses the President. The question of a 2/3 of the states quorum only comes into play if there is no majority in the Electoral College and the choice goes to the House of Representatives.
19 posted on 11/28/2012 11:35:38 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: healy61

According to information on this website

http://darinscott.blogspot.com/

these States’ electors are free to vote for whomever they choose:

ARIZONA
ARKANSAS
DELAWARE
GEORGIA
IDAHO
ILLINOIS
INDIANA
IOWA
KANSAS
KENTUCKY
LOUISIANA
MINNESOTA
MISSOURI
NEW HAMPSHIRE
NEW JERSEY
NEW YORK
NORTH DAKOTA
PENNSYLVANIA
RHODE ISLAND
SOUTH DAKOTA
TENNESSEE
TEXAS
UTAH
WEST VIRGINIA


20 posted on 11/28/2012 11:45:45 PM PST by mom of young patriots
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To: Graewoulf

No — if the vote devolves to the House, representatives of 2/3 of the states form a quorum.

Obama has a majority of the electors appointed, so unless you convince them to stay home, you’re out of luck.


21 posted on 11/29/2012 4:07:26 AM PST by scrabblehack
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To: healy61
I though the electors were bound by the election in November?

Only some of the states have passed laws that require the electors to cast the votes for the winner of that state. The constitution was set up to allow electors to cast their votes for whomever they wished and that is still true in most states. The founding fathers didn't trust the common man to always vote wisely, that is one of the main purposes of the electoral college.

22 posted on 11/29/2012 5:16:24 AM PST by calex59
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To: mom of young patriots

The people who waste their time on an effort like this are as dumb as those who voted for Obama.


23 posted on 11/29/2012 6:31:46 AM PST by Oldhunk
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To: mom of young patriots

Disregard chain emails.


24 posted on 11/29/2012 7:38:09 AM PST by LikeARock (Liberty or Death)
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To: mom of young patriots

I believe Constitutionally, any elector can vote for whoever he wants.

He may end up facing state charges, but once the vote is cast, the vote is cast.


25 posted on 11/29/2012 7:45:10 AM PST by djf (Conservative values help the poor. Liberal values help them STAY poor!!!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Yeah, good idea, get the Electoral College to deadlock and throw the election into the Congress. And after that’s accomplished, get the Republican delegates to deny the nomination to Romney...


26 posted on 12/01/2012 8:29:19 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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