Skip to comments.Behind the Susan Rice meeting meltdown
Posted on 11/29/2012 2:38:08 AM PST by Evil Slayer
In just two quick meetings on Capitol Hill, Susan Rice may have blown up any goodwill she had with the very senators shell need for confirmation if shes ever tapped as the next secretary of state.
Over the past two days, four key Republican senators have emerged from private meetings to blast the United Nations ambassadors explanation about what happened during and after the deadly attacks on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya.
Its not clear what Rice said behind closed doors to anger all these senators, but its obvious the meetings went badly and this was hardly a nominee-in-waiting charm offensive.
Even Sen. Susan Collins of Maine, just the type of moderate Republican who might help break a filibuster on a nomination, said there were still too many questions about why Rice incorrectly characterized the Sept. 11 assault in five Sunday talk show interviews as the result of spontaneous protests at the same time the Libyan president was calling it a terrorist attack.
I dont understand why she would not at least qualify her response to that question, Collins told reporters after emerging from a 75-minute, closed-door meeting with Rice.
The Wednesday meeting in a secure briefing room in the Capitol basement came a day after a similar sit-down Rice had with three key voices on foreign policy and defense issues went terribly wrong. GOP Sens. John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Kelly Ayotte, all members of the Armed Services Committee, said they were more troubled about the Benghazi affair than they had been before their meeting with Rice.
And Graham and Ayotte went so far as to say they would place a hold on her possible nomination.
If she were nominated tomorrow, I would hold her because we still have questions that have not been answered, Ayotte told POLITICO
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yeah, like who cares if susan rice is a hermaphrodite martian, she just fed us unadulterated bull shiite. sorry she ain’t the one, barack. try again and thanks for playing.
These SENATORs are telling us that Susan Rice isn’t even answering their questions behind closed doors ...
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Talk is cheap. I will believe when she is sent home without a new job.
None of this really matters, does it? If the Fuhrer wants Rice to be SOS, it will be done.
“Talk is cheap. I will believe when she is sent home without a new job.”
I agree with you. Based on where we are in the US at this point in history, she has the complexion and the connections to allow her a political resurrection. Just look at Marian Barry, Maxine Waters, etc.
I think she's mild compared to who Obama may really want as Secretary of State. He probably wants someone even more extreme and this is just a feint.
Rice is a die-hard Obama loyalist. She was sent out there to lie because she was probably the only one not actually involved in the attack and the decisions surrounding it, and therefore they thought she could not be accused of intentionally misleading, or in a possible investigation, even of perjury. She was just parroting the line that somebody, either Obama or his advisers, or possibly Hillary, gave her.
But she won’t admit it. Like everybody else under Obama, she’s a dumb ideologue who is fanatically loyal to him personally, and she knows this will all lead directly to him. She thinks she’s the last line of defense for her lord and savior Barack.
That’s what worries me, you tell Odumba to look up, he’ll look down, the man is deranged, I think one has to tell him the opposite of what you want him to do, so he’ll do it! Rice is an incompetent, liar, whom the Republicans don’t want, so Odumba will keep pushing ‘till he makes Rice Secretary of state!
I kid you not, I had a boss just like Odumba, a narcissist, If he figured out that you didn’t like something he would have you do it ten fold, so we all caught on, and we started telling him that we didn’t want to do those things we did, sure enough, he would have us do them ten fold, it worked every time!
The only answer that comes to mind is that Hillary is involved and deeply and she has gone to ground to protect herself and her putative future (Wow, look at those critical missions to Peru and Australia that are more important than testifying before Congress). Susan Rice was the only dependable liar available to give the Obama reelection team cover.
It worked, didn't it?
Probably make her National Security Advisor, an position that doesn’t require senate confirmation,...Donilon would have to be moved somewhere else.
It’s not about State
It’s about 2016
In Racial Rochambeau, Black beats Woman. At least it did in 2012. However, in 2016, Woman beats Black, because we already did the Black thing.
In order to beat Woman in 2016, you need Black-Woman.
But when the Obamabots start casting about for a black woman of stature in an elected position in the Democratic Party, they come up with a pretty thin bench. So, if they are going to have a Black-Woman contender in 2016, they will have to manufacture one.
That is why Susan Rice was plucked from obscurity and thrust on the national stage. That is why Obama wants her as Secretary of State. He needs a Black-Woman with the credentials to go up against Hillary in 2016, and Susan Rice was his best shot.
Obie must be pleased Rice is the issue instead if his malfeasance surrounding Amb Stevens murder. What is he covering up? His failed Arab Spring policy. Gun running in the ME Evidence of same in the embassy that took the FBI 3 weeks to investigate. Bottom line seems to be that slaughter of our people in Benghazi (while we watched) was the price that had to be paid to keep his tottering campaign afloat.
Craven depravity doesn’t adequately describe this episode. Lets get to the underlying motivations of Rice’s actions.
The Republicans are only a pretend opposition, but it works well. People overwhelmingly still pretend there are 2 parties.
‘Bammy needs Rice there in place of Hillary. If/ when somebody decides he AND Biden need impeachin’ or worse, the SOS is the next in line. Ms Hillary is a little too presidential looking and a little too hungry to keep around for much longer.
The Speaker of the House is next in line. The SOS is after him.
Exactly. After this amusing little Kabuki dance is over, Rice will be confirmed as SOS by 68-32.
Beginning to think Rice is a cut-out, but far more fascinated why Bobo is so resistant to Lurch at State.
I don’t see how John Kerry is an improvement over Susan Rice, or Hillary Clinton, for that matter. We’re stuck with an anti-military, anti-American-power ideologue, in all cases. If we fight Kerry, we’ll probably get Dennis Kucinich.
Fighting these appointments is useless. Give the dude a blank check on the appointments and fight the policies.
Have you seen the hag lately? Looks shouldn't matter but they do.
As fugly as she was in 2008, she's twice that now and her looks aren't going to improve by 2016.
GREAT analysis ...
agreed . expecting senate republicans to take a stand is laffable
I’m guessing the Senators want to help Kerry get the job.
He’s reluctant to put Lurch anywhere right now, because that would open up that Senate seat and speculation is pretty heavy that Scott Brown would get back in the Senate.
Sounds like the talking points she was given this time didn’t work any better than the first set. Here is a woman that can really think on her feet...the whole damned administrations uses a TelePrompTer!
It is a delay of game strategy just like Holder. That dude should have been gone long ago. They just lie, or say nothing, or say you will know when the investigation is complete. All the while, they are stonewalling the investigation! We then get frustrated and give up. And all goes on just as they wanted it to. We are in deep doo.
If you had a chance
To get Lurch out the building,
Wouldn't you take it?
The republicans have got to stop bailing this president out of hot water. We need to say our peace and then stand out of his way. He will destroy himself and all around him.
My thought is that she is channeling a Holder tactic, avoid, deny, stall.....don’t worry, soon Barry will again proclaim executive privilege and this will all blow over.
Maybe “lurch” has got the goods on 0 and will let it out... and 0 knows it, so he’s desperately trying to keep “lurch” out.
Yes, the senators should’ve waited until her confirmation hearings, where she would be under oath, and then turned them into an open investigation of Benghazi.
“That is why Susan Rice was plucked from obscurity and thrust on the national stage. That is why Obama wants her as Secretary of State. He needs a Black-Woman with the credentials to go up against Hillary in 2016, and Susan Rice was his best shot.”
Haiku Guy, you may be on to something. I’ve thought that the Susan Rice feint was to assure that Kerry would be confirmed, as compared to Rice he’s mainstream, but given the way these guys think, I think you may have the better theory. We need long-term strategy like the Dems have, instead of getting led around by the nose by blowhards like Rove and Morris.
And what’s with these closed door meetings? These people are supposed to be working for us.
When Obama gets done with one election, he immediately starts thinking about the next one. Since he is not going to be able to run himself, he is thinking about his successor.
You wish he could spare a moment's thought for governing or solving the problems of the country, but he just doesn't have that in him. It would be like asking a dog to read Shakespeare.
Anyway, when it comes to succession (as opposed to seccession, which is another thread), the only thing Obama knows for sure is that he does not want it to be Hillary Clinton. But who do the Democrats have who can stand up to the Hillary juggernaught?
They don't have anybody... yet. That is where Susan Rice comes in, and why Obama needs her as Secretary of State.
Susan Rice is too weak and worked for the Clintons in the 1990’s.
The woman to beat Hillary is Liz Warren, not Rice.
Don’t have to wait . . . Congress has oversight powers, too timid to use them . . .errrr. . . . too busy working on more important things to use them . . .
Obozo promised transparency . . . except when opaqueness is needed for their version of national security (or some other political hackneyed excuse)
I've thought since this happened that, since the truth about Benghazi might have seriously damaged Obama's reelection chances, that Hillary knew what actually happened and had no intention of going out and lying to cover Obama's skinny rear end. I expect she told him where to shove it so he had to put Rice out there to lie for him.
Without getting into all the weapons running possibilities, simply the requests for additional security that were refused, and the refusal to send any help while the consulate was under attack, that was bad enough by itself to do serous damage to Obama. It had to be covered up just before the election and Hillary told him to shove it. And she probably got some advice from Bill on what to do, or not do.
What I wonder is will her obvious disrespect shown the RINO senators effect their obviously desperate desire to get along with the Obama regime in its second term.
“I dont see how John Kerry is an improvement over Susan Rice, or Hillary Clinton, for that matter. “
You realize he served in Vietnam, right? He doesn’t like to talk about it but he did.
And likely they will still confirm her.
Well, Liz Warren does have the "Minority" box checked, since she is a Native American. So in the racist game of Democrat Primary Rock/Paper/Scissors, Native-American-Woman beats Woman.
Can you say “recess appointment?”
Constitutionally, though, the “end-around” type recess appointment does not satisfy constitutional muster. A real recess appointment has to do with a crisis loss of a critical member of the administration during a constitutional recess.
Some day, someone will challenge this “recess appointment” trash interpretation that has been abused by both parties for generations.
If she fails confirmation, then Zero will give her a job and send here everywhere as if she was SOS while leaving the position officially open, playing it up in the media that those RACIST Republicans are just playing politics. The public has no idea that Benghazi was about gun running. This is an “up yours” in your face assertion of power and that the President MAY not be held accountable for anything.
Talk is cheap. I will believe when she is sent home without a new job.
Spot-on...This is all theatre.
o is using her as cover to deflect any real investigation of Benghazi.
This will continue until the recess at which time o will make a recess appointment to SOS.
My reading of her career indicates that Rice is just another bad-tempered affirmative action dullard promoted way beyond her competence by guilty white Liberals. Her snarky closed-door sessions with senators proves it. How DARE they challenge her or The One! A close look at her student and employment records would, I believe, be an eye-opener.