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Behind the Susan Rice meeting meltdown
Politico ^ | 11/28/12 | SCOTT WONG and SEUNG MIN KIM

Posted on 11/29/2012 2:38:08 AM PST by Evil Slayer

In just two quick meetings on Capitol Hill, Susan Rice may have blown up any goodwill she had with the very senators she’ll need for confirmation if she’s ever tapped as the next secretary of state.

Over the past two days, four key Republican senators have emerged from private meetings to blast the United Nations ambassador’s explanation about what happened during and after the deadly attacks on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya.

It’s not clear what Rice said behind closed doors to anger all these senators, but it’s obvious the meetings went badly and this was hardly a nominee-in-waiting charm offensive.

Even Sen. Susan Collins of Maine, just the type of moderate Republican who might help break a filibuster on a nomination, said there were still too many questions about why Rice incorrectly characterized the Sept. 11 assault in five Sunday talk show interviews as the result of spontaneous protests at the same time the Libyan president was calling it a terrorist attack.

“I don’t understand why she would not at least qualify her response to that question,” Collins told reporters after emerging from a 75-minute, closed-door meeting with Rice.

The Wednesday meeting in a secure briefing room in the Capitol basement came a day after a similar sit-down Rice had with three key voices on foreign policy and defense issues went terribly wrong. GOP Sens. John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Kelly Ayotte, all members of the Armed Services Committee, said they were more “troubled” about the Benghazi affair than they had been before their meeting with Rice.

And Graham and Ayotte went so far as to say they would place a hold on her possible nomination.

“If she were nominated tomorrow, I would hold her because we still have questions that have not been answered,” Ayotte told POLITICO

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: benghazi; secretaryofstate; susanrice; unambassador
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1 posted on 11/29/2012 2:38:11 AM PST by Evil Slayer
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To: Evil Slayer

yeah, like who cares if susan rice is a hermaphrodite martian, she just fed us unadulterated bull shiite. sorry she ain’t the one, barack. try again and thanks for playing.


2 posted on 11/29/2012 2:47:39 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Evil Slayer

These SENATORs are telling us that Susan Rice isn’t even answering their questions behind closed doors ...


3 posted on 11/29/2012 2:56:41 AM PST by Ken522
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To: Evil Slayer; annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; ...
Dear susan,
Four strikes means you swung at one too many pitches.

Anyone wanting on or off this ping list, please advise.


Benghazi Index

4 posted on 11/29/2012 3:04:50 AM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: Evil Slayer

Talk is cheap. I will believe when she is sent home without a new job.


5 posted on 11/29/2012 3:17:03 AM PST by bmwcyle (Women reelected Obama)
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To: Evil Slayer

None of this really matters, does it? If the Fuhrer wants Rice to be SOS, it will be done.


6 posted on 11/29/2012 3:29:57 AM PST by fivecatsandadog (Reality ruins everything.)
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To: bmwcyle

“Talk is cheap. I will believe when she is sent home without a new job.”

I agree with you. Based on where we are in the US at this point in history, she has the complexion and the connections to allow her a political resurrection. Just look at Marian Barry, Maxine Waters, etc.


7 posted on 11/29/2012 3:35:21 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: HiTech RedNeck
yeah, like who cares if susan rice is a hermaphrodite martian, she just fed us unadulterated bull shiite. sorry she ain’t the one, barack. try again and thanks for playing.

I think she's mild compared to who Obama may really want as Secretary of State. He probably wants someone even more extreme and this is just a feint.

8 posted on 11/29/2012 3:35:58 AM PST by arasina (Communism is EVIL. So there.)
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To: Ken522

Rice is a die-hard Obama loyalist. She was sent out there to lie because she was probably the only one not actually involved in the attack and the decisions surrounding it, and therefore they thought she could not be accused of intentionally misleading, or in a possible investigation, even of perjury. She was just parroting the line that somebody, either Obama or his advisers, or possibly Hillary, gave her.

But she won’t admit it. Like everybody else under Obama, she’s a dumb ideologue who is fanatically loyal to him personally, and she knows this will all lead directly to him. She thinks she’s the last line of defense for her lord and savior Barack.


9 posted on 11/29/2012 3:37:56 AM PST by livius
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To: Evil Slayer
I hope I am wrong, but this is setting up as an opportunity for Obama and Reid to jam her nomination through as an exercise in raw power. Obama nominates and then Reid changes the Senate rules to prevent filibusters and gets her approved on a pure party line vote.
10 posted on 11/29/2012 3:42:41 AM PST by Truth29
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To: HiTech RedNeck

That’s what worries me, you tell Odumba to look up, he’ll look down, the man is deranged, I think one has to tell him the opposite of what you want him to do, so he’ll do it! Rice is an incompetent, liar, whom the Republicans don’t want, so Odumba will keep pushing ‘till he makes Rice Secretary of state!

I kid you not, I had a boss just like Odumba, a narcissist, If he figured out that you didn’t like something he would have you do it ten fold, so we all caught on, and we started telling him that we didn’t want to do those things we did, sure enough, he would have us do them ten fold, it worked every time!


11 posted on 11/29/2012 3:49:26 AM PST by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: Evil Slayer
Here's the fun factiod I can't get my head around: if it was a "consulate" in Benghazi that was overrun, then somebody from the Department of State should have been handling the news programs after the attack. If it was a secret CIA operations center as some have whispered, then maybe somebody from the NSC should have been fielding questions... So why was the Ambassador to the UN the talking head for the administration that Sunday? How would she have been in the chain of command to answer questions?

The only answer that comes to mind is that Hillary is involved and deeply and she has gone to ground to protect herself and her putative future (Wow, look at those critical missions to Peru and Australia that are more important than testifying before Congress). Susan Rice was the only dependable liar available to give the Obama reelection team cover.

It worked, didn't it?

12 posted on 11/29/2012 3:51:39 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Evil Slayer

Probably make her National Security Advisor, an position that doesn’t require senate confirmation,...Donilon would have to be moved somewhere else.


13 posted on 11/29/2012 4:00:46 AM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: Evil Slayer

It’s not about State
It’s about 2016
Beating Hillary

In Racial Rochambeau, Black beats Woman. At least it did in 2012. However, in 2016, Woman beats Black, because we already did the Black thing.

In order to beat Woman in 2016, you need Black-Woman.

But when the Obamabots start casting about for a black woman of stature in an elected position in the Democratic Party, they come up with a pretty thin bench. So, if they are going to have a Black-Woman contender in 2016, they will have to manufacture one.

That is why Susan Rice was plucked from obscurity and thrust on the national stage. That is why Obama wants her as Secretary of State. He needs a Black-Woman with the credentials to go up against Hillary in 2016, and Susan Rice was his best shot.


14 posted on 11/29/2012 4:03:56 AM PST by Haiku Guy (If you have a right / To the service I provide / I must be your slave)
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To: Evil Slayer

Obie must be pleased Rice is the issue instead if his malfeasance surrounding Amb Stevens murder. What is he covering up? His failed Arab Spring policy. Gun running in the ME Evidence of same in the embassy that took the FBI 3 weeks to investigate. Bottom line seems to be that slaughter of our people in Benghazi (while we watched) was the price that had to be paid to keep his tottering campaign afloat.

Craven depravity doesn’t adequately describe this episode. Lets get to the underlying motivations of Rice’s actions.


15 posted on 11/29/2012 4:08:36 AM PST by chiller (Do not consume any NBCNews;MTPTodayNightlyNewsMorningJoeMSNBCBrianWilliams)
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To: bmwcyle

The Republicans are only a pretend opposition, but it works well. People overwhelmingly still pretend there are 2 parties.


16 posted on 11/29/2012 4:22:32 AM PST by wrencher
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To: Evil Slayer

‘Bammy needs Rice there in place of Hillary. If/ when somebody decides he AND Biden need impeachin’ or worse, the SOS is the next in line. Ms Hillary is a little too presidential looking and a little too hungry to keep around for much longer.


17 posted on 11/29/2012 4:31:31 AM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: mo
If/ when somebody decides he AND Biden need impeachin’ or worse, the SOS is the next in line.

The Speaker of the House is next in line. The SOS is after him.

18 posted on 11/29/2012 4:38:19 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: wrencher
The Republicans are only a pretend opposition, but it works well. People overwhelmingly still pretend there are 2 parties.

Exactly. After this amusing little Kabuki dance is over, Rice will be confirmed as SOS by 68-32.

19 posted on 11/29/2012 4:39:08 AM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: Evil Slayer

Beginning to think Rice is a cut-out, but far more fascinated why Bobo is so resistant to Lurch at State.


20 posted on 11/29/2012 4:39:28 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Own It.)
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To: Evil Slayer

I don’t see how John Kerry is an improvement over Susan Rice, or Hillary Clinton, for that matter. We’re stuck with an anti-military, anti-American-power ideologue, in all cases. If we fight Kerry, we’ll probably get Dennis Kucinich.

Fighting these appointments is useless. Give the dude a blank check on the appointments and fight the policies.


21 posted on 11/29/2012 4:40:19 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: mo
Ms Hillary is a little too presidential looking and a little too hungry to keep around for much longer.

Have you seen the hag lately? Looks shouldn't matter but they do.

As fugly as she was in 2008, she's twice that now and her looks aren't going to improve by 2016.

22 posted on 11/29/2012 4:40:19 AM PST by Graybeard58 (What G.O.P.e. candidate is in store for us in 2016?)
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To: Haiku Guy

GREAT analysis ...


23 posted on 11/29/2012 4:40:31 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin will DEFEAT the Obama-Romney Socialist Gay-Marriage Axis of Evil)
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To: bmwcyle

agreed . expecting senate republicans to take a stand is laffable


24 posted on 11/29/2012 4:40:39 AM PST by InvisibleChurch (the mature Christian is almost impossible to offend)
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To: Evil Slayer

I’m guessing the Senators want to help Kerry get the job.


25 posted on 11/29/2012 4:42:37 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: StAnDeliver

He’s reluctant to put Lurch anywhere right now, because that would open up that Senate seat and speculation is pretty heavy that Scott Brown would get back in the Senate.


26 posted on 11/29/2012 5:03:26 AM PST by livius
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To: Evil Slayer

Sounds like the talking points she was given this time didn’t work any better than the first set. Here is a woman that can really think on her feet...the whole damned administrations uses a TelePrompTer!


27 posted on 11/29/2012 5:06:35 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag
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To: Chainmail

It is a delay of game strategy just like Holder. That dude should have been gone long ago. They just lie, or say nothing, or say you will know when the investigation is complete. All the while, they are stonewalling the investigation! We then get frustrated and give up. And all goes on just as they wanted it to. We are in deep doo.


28 posted on 11/29/2012 5:06:36 AM PST by taterjay
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To: AppyPappy
I’m guessing the Senators want to help Kerry get the job.

If you had a chance
To get Lurch out the building,
Wouldn't you take it?

29 posted on 11/29/2012 5:11:19 AM PST by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: livius
I say call his bluff. He is using this Rice-capade to remove attention from Bengazi-gate. Obama has successfully turned the attention from dead Americans/failure to lead to “Is Rice qualified to be SOS”?

The republicans have got to stop bailing this president out of hot water. We need to say our peace and then stand out of his way. He will destroy himself and all around him.

30 posted on 11/29/2012 5:11:27 AM PST by lynn4303
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To: lynn4303

My thought is that she is channeling a Holder tactic, avoid, deny, stall.....don’t worry, soon Barry will again proclaim executive privilege and this will all blow over.


31 posted on 11/29/2012 5:20:51 AM PST by freebird5850 (The only good thing about Barry getting re-elected is now we get to see him fall from a higher place)
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To: StAnDeliver

Maybe “lurch” has got the goods on 0 and will let it out... and 0 knows it, so he’s desperately trying to keep “lurch” out.


32 posted on 11/29/2012 5:24:49 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: lynn4303

Yes, the senators should’ve waited until her confirmation hearings, where she would be under oath, and then turned them into an open investigation of Benghazi.


33 posted on 11/29/2012 5:27:25 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Haiku Guy

“That is why Susan Rice was plucked from obscurity and thrust on the national stage. That is why Obama wants her as Secretary of State. He needs a Black-Woman with the credentials to go up against Hillary in 2016, and Susan Rice was his best shot.”

Haiku Guy, you may be on to something. I’ve thought that the Susan Rice feint was to assure that Kerry would be confirmed, as compared to Rice he’s mainstream, but given the way these guys think, I think you may have the better theory. We need long-term strategy like the Dems have, instead of getting led around by the nose by blowhards like Rove and Morris.


34 posted on 11/29/2012 5:40:03 AM PST by binreadin
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To: Ken522

And what’s with these closed door meetings? These people are supposed to be working for us.


35 posted on 11/29/2012 5:45:27 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: binreadin
We need long-term strategy like the Dems have, instead of getting led around by the nose by blowhards like Rove and Morris.

When Obama gets done with one election, he immediately starts thinking about the next one. Since he is not going to be able to run himself, he is thinking about his successor.

You wish he could spare a moment's thought for governing or solving the problems of the country, but he just doesn't have that in him. It would be like asking a dog to read Shakespeare.

Anyway, when it comes to succession (as opposed to seccession, which is another thread), the only thing Obama knows for sure is that he does not want it to be Hillary Clinton. But who do the Democrats have who can stand up to the Hillary juggernaught?

They don't have anybody... yet. That is where Susan Rice comes in, and why Obama needs her as Secretary of State.

36 posted on 11/29/2012 5:51:30 AM PST by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: Haiku Guy

Susan Rice is too weak and worked for the Clintons in the 1990’s.

The woman to beat Hillary is Liz Warren, not Rice.


37 posted on 11/29/2012 6:08:52 AM PST by NeoCaveman (SMOD 2012)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Don’t have to wait . . . Congress has oversight powers, too timid to use them . . .errrr. . . . too busy working on more important things to use them . . .


38 posted on 11/29/2012 6:09:56 AM PST by Susquehanna Patriot (U Think Leftist/Liberals Still Believe That Dissent = Highest Form of Patriotism?)
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To: demshateGod

Obozo promised transparency . . . except when opaqueness is needed for their version of national security (or some other political hackneyed excuse)


39 posted on 11/29/2012 6:14:24 AM PST by Susquehanna Patriot (U Think Leftist/Liberals Still Believe That Dissent = Highest Form of Patriotism?)
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To: Chainmail
The only answer that comes to mind is that Hillary is involved and deeply and she has gone to ground to protect herself and her putative future...

I've thought since this happened that, since the truth about Benghazi might have seriously damaged Obama's reelection chances, that Hillary knew what actually happened and had no intention of going out and lying to cover Obama's skinny rear end. I expect she told him where to shove it so he had to put Rice out there to lie for him.

Without getting into all the weapons running possibilities, simply the requests for additional security that were refused, and the refusal to send any help while the consulate was under attack, that was bad enough by itself to do serous damage to Obama. It had to be covered up just before the election and Hillary told him to shove it. And she probably got some advice from Bill on what to do, or not do.

40 posted on 11/29/2012 6:15:12 AM PST by Will88
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To: Evil Slayer
Rice apparently went into the meetings with the 'I Won' attitude typical of this administration.

What I wonder is will her obvious disrespect shown the RINO senators effect their obviously desperate desire to get along with the Obama regime in its second term.

41 posted on 11/29/2012 6:26:48 AM PST by skeeter
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To: gridlock

Yesterday


42 posted on 11/29/2012 6:32:15 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: wayoverontheright

“I don’t see how John Kerry is an improvement over Susan Rice, or Hillary Clinton, for that matter. “

You realize he served in Vietnam, right? He doesn’t like to talk about it but he did.


43 posted on 11/29/2012 6:33:18 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: Ken522
"These SENATORs are telling us that Susan Rice isn’t even answering their questions behind closed doors ..."

And likely they will still confirm her.

44 posted on 11/29/2012 6:38:43 AM PST by Sam's Army
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To: NeoCaveman
The woman to beat Hillary is Liz Warren, not Rice.

Well, Liz Warren does have the "Minority" box checked, since she is a Native American. So in the racist game of Democrat Primary Rock/Paper/Scissors, Native-American-Woman beats Woman.

45 posted on 11/29/2012 6:42:58 AM PST by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: Evil Slayer

Can you say “recess appointment?”

Constitutionally, though, the “end-around” type recess appointment does not satisfy constitutional muster. A real recess appointment has to do with a crisis loss of a critical member of the administration during a constitutional recess.

Some day, someone will challenge this “recess appointment” trash interpretation that has been abused by both parties for generations.


46 posted on 11/29/2012 6:53:10 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Evil Slayer

If she fails confirmation, then Zero will give her a job and send here everywhere as if she was SOS while leaving the position officially open, playing it up in the media that those RACIST Republicans are just playing politics. The public has no idea that Benghazi was about gun running. This is an “up yours” in your face assertion of power and that the President MAY not be held accountable for anything.


47 posted on 11/29/2012 6:57:15 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: bmwcyle

Talk is cheap. I will believe when she is sent home without a new job.


Spot-on...This is all theatre.
o is using her as cover to deflect any real investigation of Benghazi.

This will continue until the recess at which time o will make a recess appointment to SOS.


48 posted on 11/29/2012 6:57:39 AM PST by AFret. ("Charlie don't surf ! ")
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To: Evil Slayer
Susan Rice net worth between $23.5 and 43.5 million...Canadian oil companies
49 posted on 11/29/2012 7:01:01 AM PST by opentalk
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To: Evil Slayer

My reading of her career indicates that Rice is just another bad-tempered affirmative action dullard promoted way beyond her competence by guilty white Liberals. Her snarky closed-door sessions with senators proves it. How DARE they challenge her or The One! A close look at her student and employment records would, I believe, be an eye-opener.


50 posted on 11/29/2012 7:05:41 AM PST by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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