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1 posted on 11/29/2012 3:03:43 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
$1.6 trillion in tax increases over 10 years, an immediate new round of stimulus spending, home mortgage refinancing and a permanent end to Congressional control over statutory borrowing limits.

Screw that!

Shut it down!

2 posted on 11/29/2012 3:05:49 PM PST by grobdriver
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To: tobyhill

Stop negotiating!
3 posted on 11/29/2012 3:07:18 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: tobyhill

Why the hell is Geitner providing this?


4 posted on 11/29/2012 3:15:36 PM PST by capydick (''Life's tough.......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'')
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To: tobyhill
initial spending cuts might well be outnumbered by upfront spending increases

That's all we need to know. It's a nonstarter and a typical joke. Inflation is the most likely outcome.

8 posted on 11/29/2012 3:30:51 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: tobyhill

He’s the white man Susan Rice now. I say..no deals.
You’re the President and you control two thirds of the government. If things go to hell, your voters BHO, will all of a sudden feel the pain and start realizing that Romney really was the better business man. NO deals...we’ll start to fix things in two years. Ball’s in your court Prez.


9 posted on 11/29/2012 3:35:13 PM PST by sanjuanbob
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To: tobyhill
Timothy F. Geithner presented...a detailed proposal to avert the year-end fiscal crisis...an immediate new round of stimulus spending, home mortgage refinancing and a permanent end to Congressional control over statutory borrowing limits.

Does anyone really think the Democrat party wants to fix the economy? Obamugabe and his fellow perverts only want to destroy America.

10 posted on 11/29/2012 3:48:16 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: tobyhill

Just adjourn the House, Mr. Speaker. Sine die!


11 posted on 11/29/2012 4:00:03 PM PST by cotton1706
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To: tobyhill

Timothy F. Geithner? Just what is deliquent tax bill up to now?


12 posted on 11/29/2012 4:01:59 PM PST by annieokie
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To: tobyhill

There are zero spending cuts under this proposal.

zero.

They don’t even feel the need to pretend anymore.


13 posted on 11/29/2012 4:06:01 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: tobyhill

NO!


14 posted on 11/29/2012 4:08:30 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: tobyhill
$1.6 trillion in tax increases over 10 years, an immediate new round of stimulus spending, home mortgage refinancing and a permanent end to Congressional control over statutory borrowing limits.

IOW, a doubling down of the very things tht have been destroying our economy, and a removal of Congress's ability to stop it at any time in the future.

The House must say no to this, loudly and longly, and they must go public and use the airwaves, the internet, town halls and every conceivable method possible to expose this filth for what they are...enemies of this nation and all we hold dear.

Many will not buy it and blame the House Republicans...but they must be strong and take that, knowing that giving in to this screed is an absolute end to this Republic.

I would rather it go down fighting.

America at the Crossroads of History
http://www.jeffhead.com/crossroads.htm

15 posted on 11/29/2012 4:11:34 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: tobyhill

The status quo is what people voted for. Fiscal Cliff is where we were before the election. Its time to jump.
The right thing to do here is for the speaker to say that and that negotiations are closed. If you want to reopen them then repeal Obamacare. This fight was already fought thdis is what the 3 branches of government agreed to. Nothing has changed since (unfortunately)


17 posted on 11/29/2012 4:21:52 PM PST by wiseprince
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80% increased taxes and 20% reduced spending (maybe) when the problem is solely related to spending? The fix should be 100% reduced spending however we don’t have the votes for that. So the waiting game to see how long before Boehner caves....


18 posted on 11/29/2012 4:24:17 PM PST by plain talk
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To: tobyhill
and a permanent end to Congressional control over statutory borrowing limits.

In other words, the people will no longer have any say over how much we are indebted. Only the dictators will decide.

UGLY.

19 posted on 11/29/2012 4:30:25 PM PST by what's up
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Same old, same old. Here are the gory details.

http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/2012/11/29/obamas-continued-demand-for-1-6-trillion-tax-on-the-wealthy-and-his-cross-of-debt/


20 posted on 11/29/2012 4:42:11 PM PST by whitedog57
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If the rich get a high tax rate put on them, they will do as the rich did in England when their taxes went sky high - they got a plane ticket and moved to another country. They are so rich they can get out fast.

I think our rich people likely already have a plane ticket or their own plane ready to get out fast if that high tax is placed on them - get out before the tax starts.

If you were extremely rich, how long would it take you to fly out of here and change your address to another country?

24 posted on 11/29/2012 6:16:09 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today.)
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To: tobyhill

a permanent end to Congressional control over statutory borrowing limits.

This isn’t Sparta, it’s fracking insanity!


25 posted on 11/29/2012 6:37:37 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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a permanent end to Congressional control over statutory borrowing limits. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

How can they negotiate a change in Constitutional authority of Congress and the executive branch?

This is horrid. Boehner needs to begin calling Obama a Socialist threat to our nation, which the GOP has refused to do, and now it is paying the price for its failure.This goes back to John McCain.

Sarah Palin had no hesitation in laying the boots to Obama on his radicalism.

Meanwhile Hairy Reed charges he cannot understand Boehner’s brain? Soon there will be some very bad things happening if this shit doesn’t stop.Obama has becoem a threat that the media and the GOP fail to report.


27 posted on 11/30/2012 8:06:15 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: tobyhill

This requirement that Obama has for a control of the debt ceiling should be met with a GOP demand: GIVE US A WORKABLE BUDGET..........OBAMA YOU HAVE NOT HAD ONE IN 4 Years!!!!!!

Obama does not want a budget , because it allows open ended borrowing.Make him bring a workable budget forward , or LAUGH at him once again.


35 posted on 12/01/2012 2:59:18 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: tobyhill

n January, 2009, the month ODUMBI entered office, median household income was $54,983. By June, 2012, it had spiraled down to $50,964. The FISCAL CLIFF will take 2200 bucks from that. Now, that comes out to 5 dollars a day for each person. That adds up but it is not FALLING OFF A CLIFF. ......Congress is printing 40 billion dollars every month (they call it Quantitative Easing), Congress is not producing a budget, yet Congress will ask us to pay taxes on April 15th. ........Americans should all ask for tax extensions and TELL CONGRESS ......IF YOUR BUDGET IS LATE, OUR TAXES WILL BE LATE ALSO


36 posted on 12/01/2012 2:46:23 PM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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