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McConnell 'Burst Into Laughter' as Geithner Outlined Obama's Plan
The Weekly Standard ^ | November 29,2012 | FRED BARNES

Posted on 11/29/2012 4:47:55 PM PST by Hojczyk

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To: Hojczyk
One of the greatest regrets of several members of the generally sound Reagan administration was that in an effort to cut spending significantly, President Reagan went along with some tax hikes sought by Democrats in his first term in office.

It seemed like a good idea at the time: Supposedly there would be $3 worth of spending cuts for every $1 in tax increases.

But it didn't work out that way.

The tax increases were imposed, but the spending cuts failed to materialize. As Reagan later wrote, "The Democrats reneged on their pledge and we never got those cuts."

We are witnessing a similar bait and switch today. ...

**** My Comment: This is how we ended up giving TAX REFUNDS to people who paid NO TAXES! It's called the "Earned Income Tax Credit"!!!

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51 posted on 11/29/2012 5:42:40 PM PST by WVKayaker ("Hang in there, America. Fight for what is right." - Sarah Palin 11/7/12)
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To: Hojczyk

Congress has the power of the purse, so it’s not like the Repubs have been impressive with the economy, either.


52 posted on 11/29/2012 5:42:40 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: PLMerite
He should have laughed and walked out.

The meeting was in McConnell's office. Though that might have been an action typical of a Beltway Republican.

53 posted on 11/29/2012 5:45:28 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: GeronL

No spending cuts? Heck, they proposed a $50 Billion stimulus today!


54 posted on 11/29/2012 5:46:16 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: Hojczyk

Christmas is coming. Adjourn and go home, the results won’t be any worse. These Democrats have no intention of cutting anything. The Republicans are the only ones doing any lifting.


55 posted on 11/29/2012 5:48:27 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Hojczyk

Free Republic doesn’t dissapoint, the hatred for Republicans here is just as strong or stronger than anything I’ve seen on PMSNBC or DU.

Many here on FR hate the Republicans and want them to die, and so do the Democrats.

No difference.


56 posted on 11/29/2012 5:49:32 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Hojczyk

McConnell and Bohner just need to tell Obama and Reid...

Vote for whatever you want...we will vote present..

It’s your ball of wax...you live or die by it...

We are done playing your idiot games...


57 posted on 11/29/2012 5:52:52 PM PST by Popman
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To: ripley

They have the majority in the House, and all appropriations start in the House! Have a vote and pass these:
1) Give them the Ryan budget
2) Extend all Bush tax cuts
3) Kill the AMT forever
4) Defund Obamacare

Then say “this stops the automatic cuts and the major tax hikes, so sign it” And go home.


58 posted on 11/29/2012 5:52:52 PM PST by ReaganGeneration2
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To: Windflier
That’s the sort of thing that congressional Republicans need to be shouting from the rooftops.

Pubbies have yet to figure out how to get the message out. Until they do, the GOP is relegated to the bottom of the heap. If you ask most folk who do not pay attention to politics they do have a clue where the money comes from for Zero to spend. Rush had a good caller today on this subject.

Caller is 45 and Just Realized Money Isn't Free
59 posted on 11/29/2012 5:55:06 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Hojczyk
I am ready for the fiscal avalanche.
60 posted on 11/29/2012 5:56:52 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: Hojczyk
I won't be laughing when McConnell votes in favor of whatever plan Harry Reid places before him just like he did 15 months ago. Back then, he voted to raise the debt ceiling by $2.5 trillion, which was supposed to carry us through March 2013. And he did so without getting a single spending cut at the time. Instead, he got a promise that defense spending would be cut in the future.

And here we are today listening to McConnell complain about a plan which he helped put in place. November 1980 cannot come soon enough.

61 posted on 11/29/2012 6:04:45 PM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: GeronL

I’m not betting NOW is the point of “enough is enough”.

After BamaClaus was re-elected, by whatever hook or crook, everything from that point is just damage control. How much damage can be controlled depends on how long this drags out.

At some point, what the Pubbies do won’t matter, our Founding Father’s grand experiment will be over


62 posted on 11/29/2012 6:16:25 PM PST by X-spurt (It is time for OFF YOUR FEET and on the gravy-train)
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To: Hojczyk

“Mitch McConnell, the Senate Republican leader, says he “burst into laughter”

sure he did. And so did Geithner, with him...they were both yukking it up over the deal McConnell just cut with the Senate Dems...about how they’re planning to put the bipartisan screws on FlyOver Country come January.


63 posted on 11/29/2012 6:16:51 PM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: Hojczyk
The Pubbies should laugh at EVERY proposal by made by these clowns. Unfortunately, it's likely a nervous laugh...right before they cave.
64 posted on 11/29/2012 6:17:39 PM PST by Jane Long (Philippians 2:11)
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To: Cheerio
Pubbies have yet to figure out how to get the message out.

Well, they're idiots in that case. Not a day goes by, that some congressional Republican doesn't have a microphone shoved in their face. Lots of them are on TV and radio talk shows, too.

No one's stopping them from explaining the root basics of our fiscal problems, but every time they open their yaps, I just hear, "wah, wah, wah, wah, wah....."

65 posted on 11/29/2012 6:19:00 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: DesertRhino

There has been a huge increase in SS disability in the last 4 years, and there was plenty of fraud to begin with.

It is a real problem and will have to be addressed at some point.


66 posted on 11/29/2012 6:21:19 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Hojczyk

was talking about this earlier to a group of people.

maybe they should call bozo’s bluff, let the taxes go up and see the debt not go down and that way the GOP should say in two years his plan did not work , he did not do spending and it;s been a disaster.

That way we cannot be blamed for not working wiht him or not have the snide remarks in two years to come back and let the left do their usual crap.

After all how many voted for this and have money?

BTW This is a thought so don;t all or some of you get mad


67 posted on 11/29/2012 6:24:26 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: !1776!
If the House wilts, they are nothing more than a squeeky rubber stamp. Our form of government wasn't meant to be quick and nimble, it was meant to be representative and fair. Elections have consequences and whoever wins the presidency is no more special than any other branch of the government. Time for our House leadership to step up.

Exactly! The Kenyan Marxist won but one third of the federal -the fool has no mandate! In fact, the fool has no clue! Only idiot RINOs would cave in to the leftist community organizer.

68 posted on 11/29/2012 6:27:53 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: Batman11
Yeah, I burst into laughter too when I heard that McConnell had potentially damaging information on Petreaus, and therefore on Obozo, that he withheld until after the election!!!! Freaking cowardly moron!

One thing that everybody needs to understand. It doesn't matter which party they belong to, they WILL protect their own.

69 posted on 11/29/2012 6:28:43 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Your right. There is no difference. They are all traitors.


70 posted on 11/29/2012 6:31:32 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Hojczyk

Tim Geithner couldn’t count his balls and get the same number twice...


71 posted on 11/29/2012 6:42:10 PM PST by Beave Meister (Die Hard Cubs Fan.....if it takes forever.)
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To: Hojczyk
Obama: We want to raise taxes on the top 25% by 20%.
GOP leaders: What? That's crazy! We won't possibly agree to that.
Obama: Okay, then how about raising taxes on the top 25% by 30%.
GOP leaders: That's even more ridiculous.
Obama: Alright. Here's my final offer. We will raise taxes on the top 25% by 50%.
GOP leaders: Absolutely not. There's no point in continuing these negotiations.

Jay Carney to media: The president offered the opposition party a series of fair and flexible proposals but their side remains entirely unwilling to make any concessions to save the Middle Class from the fiscal cliff...
(pointing to reporter): Yes, Andrea.
Andrea Mitchell: Why do you think these mean-spirited Republicans hate minorities and the poor so much?

72 posted on 11/29/2012 6:45:31 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Dems demand tax hikes and promise cuts in spending in the future

Remember your Democrat math...

An increase in spending of only 5% instead of 10% is a 50% budget cut.

Simple, that....

73 posted on 11/29/2012 6:46:52 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: WVKayaker
As Reagan later wrote, "The Democrats reneged on their pledge and we never got those cuts."

I like Ronald Reagan, but I wonder why he stayed so congenial with the RAT bastard demoRATs, instead of forging ahead via executive orders on spending cuts as well as border enforcement in exchange for the amnesty that Reagan signed. Never should've happened! And Reagan should have been astute to know that Rat bastard demoRATs never keep their word! He should have exercised the executive order pen, the way that 0dumb0 is doing right now!

74 posted on 11/29/2012 6:55:15 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: Hojczyk

All the Republicans need to do is walk out-and stay away. Let the dems own this.


75 posted on 11/29/2012 7:05:15 PM PST by Wisconsinlady ("When injustice becomes law, then resistance becomes duty." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

“Christmas is coming. Adjourn and go home, the results won’t be any worse.”

Yeah, the election is over. Much worse to come before we’re out of this mess. Anything that’s a big deal now will be forgotten by 2014. Might as well stand our ground while we can.


76 posted on 11/29/2012 7:08:08 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: gleeaikin

Perhaps they would if they had to pay for their medical care. Can’t force um to be healthy. But you can make it rather costly for them if they are 500 lbs because they can’t put the twinkies away.

er...

Doughnuts away.

Let insurance companies price insurance on weight and other risk factors and people will get back in to shape.

We will turn in to the humans in the movie Wall-e at this rate.


77 posted on 11/29/2012 7:10:36 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: Hojczyk

I didn’t know McC had a sense of humor unless its sticking the knife into the back of conservatives.


78 posted on 11/29/2012 7:10:42 PM PST by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: Chainmail
"The key to this mess is making every detail public. This crowd avoids daylight and more we can shine on their corrupt, shameful plans, the better."

Sounds like a plan except the MSM is the "Heavy Dark Curtains" blocking your "let the sun shine in" scenario.

79 posted on 11/29/2012 7:14:42 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Hojczyk
everything is a big funny joke unless you are one of the formerly employed wondering where you will live after the foreclosure and the unemployment runs out

"wait, let me take my silver spoon out, ...... Oh ha ha hah , HAH HA Hee HEE HAW, shovel ready, read my lips , we'll just deem it passed , let them eat cake, !!... OH HAH HA HEE HEE HAW !"

80 posted on 11/29/2012 7:20:34 PM PST by KTM rider
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To: Hojczyk

I just want free condoms and cell phones.


81 posted on 11/29/2012 7:35:29 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Free Republic doesn’t dissapoint, the hatred for Republicans here is just as strong or stronger than anything I’ve seen on PMSNBC or DU.

After three decades of being thrown under the bus by the Republican Party, many Conservatives view the GOP as only being slightly to the right of the Democrats, and little more trustworthy. Last I checked, this is a Conservative forum, not a Republican echo chamber.

At this point, the GOP has to earn my vote. They have slid so far to the left, it isn't automatic any more.

I think someone could win handily if they just changed their name to "None of the Above" and ran third party.

82 posted on 11/29/2012 7:59:01 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Hojczyk

Bet they cave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


obamas holding all the cards and the GOP knows it. Poll show the majority of Americans are holding the GOP responsible for the entire mess.


83 posted on 11/29/2012 8:00:19 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: SoFloFreeper

“Free Republic doesn’t dissapoint, the hatred for Republicans here is just as strong or stronger than anything I’ve seen on PMSNBC or DU.”

I respectfully disagree with your over-generalization.

A significant majority here have a lot of respect for at least some Republicans... Reagan, Sarah Palin, Paul Ryan, Rush Limbaugh...

That same great majority have great disdain, hatred if you will, towards the Republican cowards and traitors, but those among that same majority are usually the first to express sympathy or condolences for stricken leftist freaks and their families.

And if you’d ever been to PMSNBC or DU, you would have seen much more than hatred there.


84 posted on 11/29/2012 8:05:08 PM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Hojczyk

geithner’s just a butt-boy for wispy. Chinese laughed at him, too.


85 posted on 11/29/2012 8:06:09 PM PST by gotribe
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To: Qwackertoo

Me, too. What is it, an automatic 1.2 trillion in government cuts? Couldn’t happen to a fatter hog.


86 posted on 11/29/2012 8:07:02 PM PST by gotribe
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To: Hojczyk

Mitch is the reason we have Obama Care. If he had fought hard against it in filibuster, the Dems would have died of apoplexy, but he did not have the balls t9o fight these liberal fascists then, and he doesn’t have the balls now either.

He laughed about the lack of a balanced approach. In case Mitch has not noticed, Obama has not used a balanced approach since he was first inaugurated.Hell Obama doesn’t have a budget, and won’t suggest any entitlement program cuts at all.

Mitch needs to do more than laugh, he needs to attack Obama and ridicule these fascists in the press while he has the stage.


87 posted on 11/29/2012 8:15:47 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: whitedog57

The republicans will make sure they take the blame when the system crashes under its own weight. They should be screaming about the democrats pushing us in to bankruptcy with their spending. Instead they play this game where they pretend that these tax increases and cuts will solve the problem.


88 posted on 11/29/2012 8:17:07 PM PST by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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To: Hojczyk

Obama wants 1.6T in new taxes (over 10 yrs?). what is the amount of new taxes raised in doing nothing & letting Bush tax cuts expire?

Obama wants $400B in spending cuts (over 10 yrs?). How much in spending cuts are generated by doing nothing? it seems like it was a pittance and excluded quite a bit except defense

does anyone know? I’d like to know just so I can put this crappy proposal in perspective


89 posted on 11/29/2012 8:19:04 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Hojczyk

Turbo Tax Timmy is a know nothing clown.


90 posted on 11/29/2012 9:00:59 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Don't tax me bro! Tax that guy over there!)
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To: digger48

“There is a huge shadow economy that is bigger than anyone realizes”

BINGO...
And without it, the economy of today’s inner-cities collapses.

But, you can’t tell the Suburban middle-class this. The TV tells them that anyone who thinks that way is CWAZY! Or a rassiss.


91 posted on 11/29/2012 9:18:36 PM PST by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: FreedomPoster
My Brother's B-I-L is on Disability. He is in bad shape with Rheumatoid Arthritis and Heart problems. When my Brother asked who he was Voting for, he told him Obama.

My Brother “reminded” him of all of Obama’s failings, but the B-I-L didn't care. He told my Brother that Romney would take away his SS Disability. No matter what my Brother said, he wouldn't listen.

And THAT Ladies and Gentlemen is what we are up against.

Nothing worse than a Kool Aid Drinking Ignorant Drone.

92 posted on 11/29/2012 9:53:34 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Looks like my Father was wrong, somebody else DOES owe you a living...)
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To: PLMerite

He should have spit on the floor.


93 posted on 11/29/2012 10:24:45 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
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To: Hoodat

I don’t think so...if only for his own self interest - he’s up in 2014...unless he wants to be primaried he won’t cave.


94 posted on 11/29/2012 10:44:37 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: DesertRhino

I agree. It’s amazing how often “disabled” translates into “I can’t work but I can still party like a rock star. Therefore, give me monthly checks in perpetuity.”


95 posted on 11/29/2012 10:45:17 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: DesertRhino
Now disability is every obese lazy person who has a “backache”. They are everywhere if you start to notice. Disability should be separated from old folks SS, and it should be scrutinized hard. The default should be to nearly always assign them a job doing some menial, non strenuous task that they will not enjoy. If they refuse, no disability check.

Excellent post!

And yes, I've noticed a LOT of young-ish, usually obese lazy people claiming to be on Disability all over Connecticut.

In fact, there are so many working-age people "out and about" on any given day in CT, I'm starting to wonder if I'm the only one in CT who ISN'T on Disability or some other kind of government dole.

96 posted on 11/29/2012 10:48:35 PM PST by nutmeg
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To: BradyLS; DesertRhino
It’s amazing how often “disabled” translates into “I can’t work but I can still party like a rock star. Therefore, give me monthly checks in perpetuity.”

I agree. It's disgusting how much taxpayer $$ is given to the "disabled" in this country (by that I mean those who aren't truly disabled).

This has GOT to stop somehow. There needs to be case-by-case investigations of everyone on "Disability" to see if they're truly needy. Enough is enough.

97 posted on 11/29/2012 10:51:45 PM PST by nutmeg
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To: DesertRhino

spoken like a person who hasn’t had 7 back surgeries, brain surgery, knee surgeries, and a dilauded pain pump implanted in their stomach just so they can walk SOMETIMES. There are people who can’t work because they can’t consistently do anything. I wish you could experience just one day of my pain and frustration and see what you think about disability after that. I worked from age 14 and made good money in my adult life, and I paid into social security so that disability would be there for me. And thank God it is, or I’d be on the street not able to walk. Don’t judge everyone, or even the majority by the few who are fat, lazy, or moochers.


98 posted on 11/30/2012 12:56:31 AM PST by Cherokee Conservative (If a tree falls over in the woods, and then snaps back upright as a joke, do the squirrels laugh?)
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To: Hojczyk

Don’t give in and hold fast.


99 posted on 11/30/2012 3:04:52 AM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: OrangeHoof

You are correct. Sadly, no matter what happens the Republicans will be blamed because Obama owns the media. Just as sad will be the blame freepers will carry on about also blaming republicans, playing right into the democrats hands.

There will be no cuts and I don’t want my taxes raised. Yes, we are deep in debt in this country but I am willing to pass it along to the younger generation because they voted for the clown.


100 posted on 11/30/2012 3:25:44 AM PST by snippy_about_it
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