Skip to comments.Oh My: McConnell Laughed Out Loud When Geithner Discussed Obama’s Plan
Posted on 11/30/2012 2:54:55 AM PST by Kaslin
Negotiations cant be going too well if the Senate Minority leader is openly scoffing at President Obamas bipartisan plan to solve the looming fiscal cliff crisis. Yikes:
Mitch McConnell, the Senate Republican leader, says he burst into laughter Thursday when Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner outlined the administration proposal for averting the fiscal cliff. He wasnt trying to embarrass Geithner, McConnell says, only responding candidly to his one-sided plan, explicit on tax increases, vague on spending cuts.
Geithners visit to his office left McConnell discouraged about reaching a balanced deal on tax hikes and spending reductions designed to prevent a shock to the economy in January. Nothing good is happening in the negotiations, McConnell says, because of Obamas insistence on tax rate hikes for the wealthy but unwillingness to embrace serious spending cuts.
Geithner suggested $1.6 trillion in tax increases, McConnell says, but showed minimal or no interest in spending cuts. When congressional leaders went to the White House three days after the election, Obama talked of possible curbs on the explosive growth of food stamps and Social Security disability payments. But since Geithner didnt mention them, those reductions appear to be off the table now, McConnell says.
Obama is pushing to raise the tax rates on couples earning more than $250,000 and individuals earning more than $200,000. But those wouldnt produce revenues anywhere near $1.6 trillion over a decade.
In fairness, President Obamas unwillingness to embrace serious spending cuts has been a staple of his presidency. Just look at his most recent budget proposal, for example. That being said, its abundantly clear now (as if it wasnt before) that when John Boehner told the nation hours ago that no substantive progress had been made regarding solving this impending crisis . . . he wasnt kidding. Indeed, some conservatives are now openly urging congressional Republicans to simply give up -- that is, let Democrats have their way and when the US economy goes bombing off the man-made fiscal cliff on January 1st -- Republicans can absolve themselves of any wrongdoing. This isnt true, of course, and would be disastrous for a number of different reasons -- as Guy pointed out below -- but its certainly an interesting proposition. In the end, however, I suspect some sort of 11th hour deal will be struck before the New Year; but what the details will be I cant say.
In closing, Ill leave you with a few words from the man who has perhaps done more than anyone living to raise awareness about the devastating consequences of reckless government spending and the dangers of -- to borrow a phrase recycled ad nauseam these days -- kicking the can down the road:
The Path to Prosperity (Episode 1): America's two futures, visualized
If you go back to the first year of the administration and the various overseas trips of Geithner, there was that trip to Germany where he wanted to advise them on the way to economic recovery. After the trip....the general comments made by those in attendance was that Geithner didn’t know much about national economic policies or historical trends in moving an economy back to ‘normal’. They didn’t come out and say it....but you got the impression they felt they were dealing with some college professor who never did real economic planning in life.
I doubt if any meeting with him in attendance amounts to much. He’s like Ms Rice....he’s just there to mouth talking topics and not much else.
In fairness, President Obamas unwillingness to embrace serious spending cuts has been a staple of his presidency.
Now we are getting somewhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In fairness. Isn’t that what the President has been after all along?
I better not need a /s on this one.
I don't know why you would say that ..... our hothouse affirmative-action _Resident has surrounded himself since Day One with rock-solid performers with long resumes positively bulging with accomplishment.
Yeah, it’s funny all right. There’s some real comedy coming out of Washington these days. What else would you expect from a buffoon and his clownish regime?
Well, it’s the truth. The rats don’t want to cut spending except the military budget
cutting the DoD budget used to be a bad thing before the liberals loaded the military budget with ridiculous spending on nonmilitary social frivolous items and backdoor subsidies to “green” energy by forcing the military to buy outrageously expensive inefficient “green” energy
an audience of Chinese also laughed at Geithner to his face, as I recall
just like the commercial the GOP ran during the campaign
It goes back further than Clinton.
In fairness, the way to raise revenue and maintain existing rates is to make reductions to the Standard Deduction and exemptions.
The loss of revenue is directly attributable to exemption and Standard Deduction creep.
Nice timing, Mitch. Where were you when we were told that Timmy was the most-qualifed man in the country to be Treasury Secretary? Where were you when he floated the TurboTax defense for being a tax cheat?
What’s laughable is that you and the other clowns on both sides of the aisle let this guy become our financial ‘savior’.
Count me in as another who has cast his last vote for a Republican over a Democrat simply on the basis of trying to elect the ‘lesser-of-two-evils’...
If you are waiting for a perfect candidate you will never vote again.
Oh, yes! I remember!!
It was under President Reagan that there was a “Grand Deal” where Reagan agreed to a tax increase in exchange for spending reductions later. I think the deal was a dollar spending decrease for two dollars tax increase. Then, after the tax increases went into effect the Democratically controlled Congress said “Oh, I had my fingers crossed!” and there were no spending decreases. In fact there were increases.
What is the probability of the Democrats keeping there word this time around.
Didn’t say that I expected perfection. I voted for Romney, despite my disagreeing with some of his positions. I would vote for him again, given the choice between him & Obama.
I just won’t automatically flip a lever for a Republican over a Democrat. If I don’t like a candidate, I will no longer hold my nose and give him my nod.
Don’t sign off on anything. Let Obama fail.
“In fairness, the way to raise revenue and maintain existing rates is to make reductions to the Standard Deduction and exemptions.”
Fair to whom? The government takes to much and spends too much. Nothing fair about that.
Obama & his family will be out of Washington DC and off the mainland Dec 17 thru Jan 6.
He will not be here when some of the wheels start to seriously come off his little red wagon.
Is his choice of a ‘holiday’ vacation—Most likely Kwanza—really a dodge to get him off the mainland and closer to Indonesia? He could bolt if things get too hot.
Once Obama bolts, will he activate the 45 Czars he and only he controls???
Progressives and leftists are very simple to figure out. They always make the wrong choices, even though they know what the correct choices are. You see, the ability to always choose the wrong answer, requires that you always know the correct answer. The real question is why do they always do the wrong thing ? Are they trying to prove they are smarter then everyone else by actually demonstrating that the wrong approach will actually work ? Or are they just demolitionists trying to bring civilization crashing down ?
The government by law and I think constitutional amendment imposes an income tax. At present very many people pay no income tax at all.
Real fairness dictates that those who pay no tax must pay something and the way to assure that is to decrease the Standard Deductions and exemptions. As it is, the present course is to leave the vast majority of taxpayers unburdened by attempting to make those who already pay the most, pay more.
As to taking too much, That is not really the issue in my post. The issue is to balance the taking by not increasing the share of the wealthy who already pay most of the tax, but to shift the some of the burden back on those who pay little or none of their tax on income. That is what is fair.
Spending too much is definitely the problem and should be drastically curtailed.
The law is written on their hearts, just as it is with every human on the planet.
The left, however, instinctively rebels against it,
so this is why you see them reflexively choosing the wrong answer every time.
Civilization is built by responsible decisions.
Leftists revolt against responsibility because they are in thrall to their passions and do not want to fight to tame them.
They will always hate those who are able to live responsibly and will fight to attack the system to try to bring the civilized down to their level.
Thanks for the replies on this thread. Gave up trying to knock sense into the mind of leftists, a decade or so ago. Now I see why it is so difficult. In fact, pretty much impossible. That explains why they continue with their CO2 is causing Global Warming meme even though temps have not risen in over 15 years. Also explains why they want to administer socialism in the US even though it has failed everywhere else. Also explains why we cannot solve their problems at the ballot box.